Giving Narration is a reflective podcast with personal narrations to lived experiences. Jim Vue and Sai Thao are husband and wife. They both are first born Hmong Americans. Jim was raised in Tulsa, OK in a smaller family with 4 children while Sai was raised in St. Paul, MN in a large family with 11 children. Jim and Sai have been married for 21 years and they are parents to five children, three girls and two boys ranging from the ages of six to eighteen years old, and all with special needs.
Jim and I will reflect on our recent experiences and share personal insights as we explore the relationship between grief and depression.
11 Apr 2026
How We Belong: Roles and Responsibility
Jim and Sai talk about how they begin life rooted in family, as sons and a daughters, brothers and sisters.
In those early years, belonging feels certain, defined by the people around them and the roles they naturally step into.
But over time, those roles shift, and the people who once defined that sense of belonging are no longer around.
What remains is the question of what it means to belong when those connections change, and how they continue to carry that sense of responsibility, care, and identity forward.
17 Mar 2026
Where Our Heart Is: A Conversation On Grief
Sai and Jim sits down to discuss what grief means to each of them. They share their personal perspectives and experiences, exploring how grief is carried and how it can be seen and understood in different ways.
9 Jan 2025
Why Love (Final and Complete Version)
Sai and Jim shares Why Love is important to the both of them. Through the making of Why Love, they find that their love is more complex than simple.
5 Jun 2024
Hmongcoming
Hmongcoming is a podcast about the Hmong community’s ability to envision a future. Jim provides a thoughtful rumination about where the Hmong community is in the present and a courageous outlook on where they can be in the future.
4 May 2023
Autism
A podcast on living with Autism from parent perspectives.
21 Apr 2023
Patriarchy
A podcast on our experiences living under a social system that no longer serves us as Hmong Americans.
11 Apr 2023
Unpacked
A podcast on marriage through a cultural and racial lens where Sai and Jim unpacks cultural expectations, choices, parenting, grief and trauma experiences, and marriage.
Podcast Timeline:
Cultural expectations 1:44
Choices 17:12
Parenting 32:48
Grief and Trauma 40:30
Mariage 1:14:03
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