Going the Distance asks hard-hitting questions to professionals, experts, and informed enthusiasts who are looking out for women over the age of 40. Go Long’s Jill Consor Beck doesn’t hold back and launches into each conversation with the goal to dispel myths, uncover life-hacks, and give the audience opportunities to find out how best to navigate their career, health, relationships, and much more. Topics range from fashion to menopause, from sex to religion, and from finance to divorce, all as they relate to living your best life as a woman over 40. But don't worry - men can listen, too.
What She Taught Me: Talking with Shane and Jenna Shaps
In this episode of What She Taught Me by Go Long — the series' first mother-daughter conversation — Jill Consor Beck talks to Jenna Shaps, a recent Indiana University advertising grad about to move to New York City, and her mom Shane Shaps, who owns a social media engagement agency in Louisville. Shane traces her own boundary-setting straight back to watching her mother push herself into exhaustion and depression when Shane was twelve: "it's okay to say no, it's okay to have boundaries." Jenna calls her mom a "girl boss" who can "get shit done" for the whole family and still make time for herself. Shane says her own mother never really yelled at her — and then admits the line she swore she'd never say to her own kids slipped out anyway: "Can you just act like an adult for one?"
More about Shane and Jenna:
• Jenna's LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenna-shaps-59b1a9234/
• Shane's LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/shane-shaps/
• Website — https://bigvoicesocial.com/
• Instagram — https://www.instagram.com/big.voice.social
• Facebook — https://www.facebook.com/bigvoicesocial/
More about Jill & Go Long:
• Sign-up for Go Long's newsletter — https://golong.substack.com/subscribe
• Learn more about Go Long — https://www.golong.me/how-it-works
• Instagram — https://www.instagram.com/justgolong/
• Facebook — https://www.facebook.com/justgolong
• LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/company/go-long/
Jump to:
00:00 Introduction to the series' first mother-daughter conversation: Jenna and Shane Shaps
01:32 Shane on her mother's perfectionism, burnout, and learning to set boundaries
03:48 Sacrifices Shane made for Jenna and what Jenna would do differently as a parent
06:02 Growing up in a small Jewish community in Louisville and choosing colleges for that
07:58 Did Shane's mother ever learn to ask for help after burning out
10:21 The trade-offs women make, and Jenna's move to New York as her own
12:22 Asking friends for help: three generations, three different patterns
14:29 The line Shane swore she'd never say to her kids — and said anyway
18:15 Closing thoughts and where to find Jenna and Shane
15 Sept 2026
What She Taught Me: Talking with Shujaat Ahmed
In this episode of What She Taught Me by Go Long, Jill Consor Beck talks to Shujaat Ahmad, a founder focused on helping people who are being left behind by AI. Shujaat's mother is a contradiction — relentless in service to others, but rigid and opinionated about fairness and gender roles — and by his own account, that paradox is what made him who he is: someone built for service, and someone now actively pushing back against the same rigidity as him and his wife raise their daughters. As the youngest child in the house, his job every night during Ramadan was to carry a tray of his mother's celebratory dinner to a neighbor, then a second tray to a guard or stranger on the street who had nothing to eat that day. Now, in his mid-40s, he's stopped staying quiet — telling Jill flat out, "we're going to not even sugar coat this... even if that means that there's a rift in the family because of it."
More about Shujaat:
• LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/shujaatahmad/
• Website — https://www.skool.com/chaiwithai/about
More about Jill & Go Long:
• Sign-up for Go Long's newsletter — https://golong.substack.com/subscribe
• Learn more about Go Long — https://www.golong.me/how-it-works
• Instagram — https://www.instagram.com/justgolong/
• Facebook — https://www.facebook.com/justgolong
• LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/company/go-long/
Jump to:
00:00 Introduction to Shujaat and Growing Up as a "Professional Immigrant"
02:21 His Mother as a Paradox of Service and Rigid Fairness
06:35 Three Things That Shaped Him: Service, Ramadan Meals, and What He's Unlearning
11:39 Raising Daughters Inside a Multigenerational Household
14:14 Backchanneling with His Daughters and Drawing the Line
1 Sept 2026
What She Taught Me: Talking with Rebekah Bastian
In this episode of What She Taught Me by Go Long, Jill Consor Beck talks to Rebekah Bastian, CMO at mpathic and author of Blaze Your Own Trail: An Interactive Guide to Navigating Life with Confidence, Solidarity, and Compassion, who traces her creativity and "delusional optimism" straight back to her free-spirited, artist mother. Rebekah still brings that creative streak into her workday — she admits to "literally being sitting here in a meeting, knitting a leg warmer right now." She's trying to unlearn the same over-involvement she inherited from her mom: "I should delegate more. I should step back more." She was, by her own account, "an absolute train wreck of a teenager" — and still hasn't found a clean answer for what her parents could have done differently.
Resources mentioned:
• Blaze Your Own Trail — https://www.amazon.com/Blaze-Your-Own-Trail-Interactive-ebook/dp/B07Y422NWF
More about Rebekah:
• Website — https://rebekahbastian.com/
• LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebekahbastian/
More about Jill & Go Long:
• Sign-up for Go Long's newsletter — https://golong.substack.com/subscribe
• Learn more about Go Long — https://www.golong.me/how-it-works
• Instagram — https://www.instagram.com/justgolong/
• Facebook — https://www.facebook.com/justgolong
• LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/company/go-long/
Jump to:
00:00 Introduction to Rebekah and Being Purpose-Driven in Her Current Role
01:33 Following in Her Mom's Footsteps as an Artist
03:14 What Went Unacknowledged: A Family of Worriers
05:14 How She Uses Creativity to Bridge Both Personal and Professional Lives
07:00 Time-Boxing Work and Startup Motherhood
09:04 How She Thinks About Her Train Wreck Years As She Parents Her Kids
10:38 The Importance of Vulnerability, Crying, and Asking For Help
12:08 Closing Thoughts and Family Time at the Mariners Game
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Kristen Berman
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Heather Redisch
Tami Reiss
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5,240
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5.0 / 5
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Podcast Authority Score: 59 / 100
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Social presence
91
YouTube
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