Golf Underground with Wardo, Sully and George Brett

About Golf Underground with Wardo, Sully and George Brett

Golf Underground is the third funniest podcast in golf! We interview PGA tour professionals, Hall of Fame Athletes, Rock Star Business Leaders and more. Join Wardo, Jordo and Sully each week on ESPN radio.

Publisher

golfunderground

Category

sports

Language

en

Explicit

Yes

First episode

23 Jan 2019

Latest episode

8 Apr 2026

Latest episodes

1 of 121 episodes have a transcript.

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   8 Apr 2026TRANSCRIPT

   Caddie Secrets from Augusta: Masters Week with Drew Hinesley

   What really goes on inside the ropes at Augusta during Masters week? Sully, George, and Wardo bring in Drew Hinesley to break down the madness, pressure, and strategy behind the most iconic tournament in golf. From walking Amen Corner with legends to hearing the wild conversations players actually have mid-round, Drew pulls back the curtain on what fans never see. The crew dives into Gary Woodland’s comeback story, what it takes to win at Augusta, and why course strategy separates contenders from pretenders. They also get into Masters picks, player trends, and the mental grind that comes with chasing a green jacket. If you’ve ever wondered what it feels like to step onto that first tee… this is as close as it gets. Must-Hear Insights and Key Moments Sully opens the show by highlighting Gary Woodland’s emotional comeback win and impact on the golf world. Drew shares what it’s like walking Amen Corner alongside legends and listening to elite-level strategy conversations. The crew breaks down how pros adjust equipment and wedge setups based on course conditions. Drew explains the overwhelming pressure and sensory overload of stepping onto the first tee at Augusta. A deep dive into Masters strategy reveals why conservative targets and aggressive swings win tournaments. The group debates Ryder Cup pressure versus the individual pressure of winning The Masters. Drew analyzes top contenders like Scottie Scheffler, Rory McIlroy, and Ludvig Åberg heading into the week. The episode wraps with bold Masters picks and predictions from the crew. Words of Wisdom: Standout Quotes from This Episode "At Augusta, you’re just trying to remind yourself to breathe and hit a ball with a stick." - Drew Hinesley "Pressure at The Masters is a privilege, and you feel every bit of it on that first tee." - Drew Hinesley "We take conservative targets and make aggressive swings—that’s how you win under pressure." - Drew Hinesley "The Ryder Cup feels like Game 7 of the World Series, The Masters is chasing a batting title." - Drew Hinesley "Too many players hit a bad shot and stay mad for 250 yards—that’s how you lose tournaments." - Drew Hinesley "There’s nothing like walking Amen Corner and realizing you actually made it there." - Drew Hinesley "If you’re not making smart decisions at Augusta, it’ll humble you fast." - Brian Sullivan "The guys who win at Augusta know when to attack and when to stay patient." - Kevin Ward "You don’t rise to the moment at Augusta—you fall back on your preparation." - Drew Hinesley "This place exposes everything—your swing, your strategy, and your mindset." - George Brett About Drew Drew Hinesley is a seasoned professional golf caddie with years of experience inside the ropes on the PGA Tour. Known for his sharp course management, deep understanding of player psychology, and steady presence under pressure, Drew has worked alongside top-level players in some of the biggest tournaments in the world, including multiple appearances at Augusta during Masters week. His insight into strategy, preparation, and the mental side of the game gives fans a rare behind-the-scenes look at what it truly takes to compete at the highest level of professional golf. Follow Drew Hinesley ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/drew-hinesley-54568332) ⁠Instagram⁠ (https://www.instagram.com/drewhinesley/) Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/drew.hinesley/) Follow ‘Golf Underground with Wardo, Sully, and George’ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.linkedin.com/company/precise-selling/) ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.instagram.com/preciseselling/)

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   10 Mar 2026

   Inside Southern Hills with Cary Cozby: Tiger, Tradition, and Tour Pressure

   What does it take to run one of the most iconic clubs in American golf without losing your edge or your sanity? This week in the Vault, the crew sit down with Cary Cozby, PGA, Director of Golf at Southern Hills, to talk about growing up the son of a longtime club pro, playing at Oklahoma, chasing mini tours, and eventually landing what he calls his “Yankee Stadium” job. Cary walks the guys through hosting major championships, what it was really like caddying for Tiger during a hush-hush practice round, and why leading a private club sometimes feels like having 900 bosses. From detail-obsessed standards in the golf shop to mentoring young assistants who go on to land head pro jobs, Cary brings a masterclass in service, culture, and competitive edge. It’s Southern Hills stories, Tiger intel, family rivalries, and rapid-fire golf takes all rolled into one. Must-Hear Insights and Key Moments Cary Cozby shares how growing up under a 41-year club pro shaped his obsession with detail and standards. He explains why Southern Hills is his version of “Yankee Stadium” as an Oklahoma golf kid. Cary breaks down what it’s really like to manage access requests from members and fellow PGA professionals. He reveals how Tiger Woods requested him personally for a private practice round at Southern Hills. Cary describes Tiger’s insane shot recall and ability to hit different windows without changing his setup. He talks about guiding his son Banks through nerves while playing in front of the most intimidating golfer in history. Cary explains why assistant pros stepping into Southern Hills get a “fire hose to the face” on day one. He compares handling tour pros during majors versus serving dues-paying members year-round. Words of Wisdom: Standout Quotes from This Episode "My dad taught me there is no gray area when it comes to standards. Details matter, and they always will." - Cary Cozby "My value to this club is not sitting behind a computer. It is being present, knowing the members, and leading from the front." - Cary Cozby "At the end of the day, we want members driving out of here thinking, I am so glad I belong to this place." - Cary Cozby "When you run a private club, you technically have 900 bosses. But if you build trust and communicate, it becomes a partnership." - Cary Cozby "When a young assistant walks into Southern Hills, it is like drinking from a fire hose. But that is how you grow fast in this business." - Cary Cozby "Tiger remembered every single shot he hit in that practice round. The trajectory, the curve, the landing spot. It was unreal." - Cary Cozby "You will never be more nervous than standing on a tee with Tiger Woods watching your golf swing." - Cary Cozby "That is how you know you have a strong culture, when your assistants leave and other great clubs want them immediately." - Cary Cozby "You can host championships and take care of tour pros, but your real job is serving the members who call this place home." - Cary Cozby About Cary Cary Cozby, PGA is the Director of Golf at Southern Hills Country Club in Tulsa, Oklahoma, one of the most storied championship venues in the game. A proud Oklahoma native and former University of Oklahoma golfer, Cary grew up in the business as the son of longtime club professional Chuck Cozby, learning early that standards and service are everything. After competing professionally and building his résumé at premier clubs including Oak Tree, Cary returned home to lead at Southern Hills, where he has overseen major championships, mentored rising PGA professionals, and helped shape a culture that blends tour-level excellence with member-first hospitality. He is widely respected for his leadership, competitive edge, and deep roots in the game. Follow Cary Cozby ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/cary-cozby-1826a27/) Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/coznok/) Follow ‘Golf Underground with Wardo, Sully, and George’ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.linkedin.com/company/precise-selling/) ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.instagram.com/preciseselling/)

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   2 Feb 2026

   The Science, Spin, and Secrets Behind Modern Golf Balls with TaylorMade’s Mike Fox

   Does the golf ball you play actually matter more than the clubs in your bag? In this episode of Golf Underground, Sully, George, and Wardo welcome Mike Fox, Senior Category Director of Golf Balls at TaylorMade, for a deep dive into the science, strategy, and surprising truths behind modern golf ball performance. With over 20 years in the industry, Mike breaks down why compression myths won’t die, how tour players influence innovation, and why amateurs often choose the exact opposite ball they should be playing. From Rory McIlroy and Nelly Korda switching balls to the millions spent on R&D, this conversation pulls back the curtain on how performance, feel, and personality collide in today’s game—all with plenty of laughs, rapid fire takes, and real-world insights you can actually use on your next round. Must-Hear Insights and Key Moments Mike Fox explains the moment he realized golf balls were the most important piece of equipment in the bag. The crew unpacks why lower swing speed golfers should not automatically play low-compression balls. Mike reveals how Rory McIlroy’s golf ball switch impacted performance at Augusta. George Brett shares firsthand stories about feeling immediate differences with new equipment. The group discusses TaylorMade’s DART testing system and why tour players sometimes outsmart TrackMan. Mike breaks down the real differences between TP5 and TP5x in simple, usable terms. Words of Wisdom: Standout Quotes from This Episode “The golf ball is the only piece of equipment you use on every single shot.” – Mike Fox “A lower compression golf ball is not necessarily better for a slower swing speed player.” – Mike Fox “If it doesn’t look right to a good player, it won’t perform right.” – Mike Fox “Rory hitting a golf ball for the first time was unlike anything I’d ever heard.” – Mike Fox “I’d rather be a six and have fun than be a three and lose my shirt every weekend.” – Mike Fox “You can’t grow like we have unless people switch in—and stay.” – Mike Fox “We can make the best performing product in the world, but if it looks and sounds bad, nobody will play it.” – Mike Fox “Your clubface is a trampoline, not a brick wall.” – Mike Fox About Mike Fox Mike Fox is a strategic business, product, and marketing leader with over 15 years of experience in the golf equipment industry. Known for building and scaling high-impact brands, Mike has played a key role in developing “hot products” that disrupt the marketplace and challenge the status quo. Driven by a deep passion for brand, innovation, and team leadership, he excels at leading cross-functional groups to turn clear business strategies into consistent, efficient, and winning products golfers actually want to play. Follow Mike Fox ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-fox-1b35464/) Follow ‘Golf Underground with Wardo, Sully, and George’ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (https://www.linkedin.com/company/precise-selling/) ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ (https://www.instagram.com/preciseselling/)

Inside a recent episode

Caddie Secrets from Augusta: Masters Week with Drew Hinesley

Published 8 Apr 2026 · Transcript excerpt

[…] Opening day is like the most nervous you'll be all year, you know, at home, until the playoffs, if you make it. And so I said, how are you nervous? He said, Oh man, I played all those games in the world baseball classic. This is another game to me right now. So I'm wondering with Ludwig after playing in the writer cup and then, you know, playing for your country or your continent, whatever. And then all of a sudden you go play in the masters. I think there's a lot more pressure playing in that because you got teammates. You don't want to let them down. If you play an individual tournament, you're letting yourself down. […]

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Apple Podcasts (US)

4.9 / 5

39 ratings

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3.7 / 5

3 ratings

Podcast Authority Score: 53 / 100

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Engagement

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