Good Company
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<p>Good Company is a podcast all about inspiring leaders to create a positive impact on their organizations. Hosts Drew Dudley of Day One Leadership and Brett Elmgren of Axom Leadership share a wealth of knowledge on leadership in the workplace, and all things related to the people side of business. Engage with Drew and Brett in a "Good" conversation on leadership as they answer your questions and respond to real-life leadership challenges.</p>
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Recent Episodes
May 18, 2026
Leadership Debates: Converting Motion to Momentum
<p>Brett and Drew pick up where they left off, exploring communication, leadership philosophy, and workplace dynamics. This episode blends storytelling, sharp debate, and hard-won insight — covering everything from how we interrupt each other to how AI might reshape what leadership actually looks like.</p><p>Topics Covered</p><p><strong>The Power of the Pause</strong> The episode opens with a reflection on why thoughtfulness is sometimes mistaken for deceit. Brett and Drew explore why our culture tends to reward quickness over depth — and what we lose when we do.</p><p><strong>Is it always disrespectful to interrupt someone?</strong> A surprisingly nuanced conversation about intention vs. perception, ADHD and interruption as a sign of engagement, and two practical communication habits anyone can adopt: state your intention before your message, and respond to others with "here's what I heard."</p><p><strong>AI will expose most leaders as highly paid administrators</strong> Brett and Drew unpack the difference between motion and momentum, the Picasso napkin story, and why organizations may be structurally handicapping their best thinkers by making them produce work product instead of ideas.</p><p><strong>Coaching underperformers: efficient or not?</strong> Brett walks through his bell curve framework — Resistors, Bystanders, Supporters, and Leaders — and how over-investing attention in the bottom tier costs you your best people. Drew adds a key reframe: before labeling someone a bystander, ask whether they're unwilling — or just allergic to the paddles you've given them.</p><p><strong>Do A players hire A players, and B players hire C players?</strong> It's not just who you hire — it's why. The conversation expands into the psychology of hiring for security vs. hiring for growth, complacency, and systemic accountability.</p><p>Key Takeaways</p><ul><li><strong>State intent before message.</strong> One sentence of framing before delivering feedback changes everything about how it lands.</li><li><strong>Respond with "here's what I heard."</strong> It's a bid for understanding that defuses conflict before it starts.</li><li><strong>Check your assumptions.</strong> Before deciding someone is underperforming, ask whether they lack the will — or just the right resources.</li><li><strong>Momentum, not motion.</strong> Leaders should be asking whether activity is moving toward something, not just moving.</li><li><strong>Protect your stage fours.</strong> Your top performers won't wait around while you spend all your energy on resistors. They'll find another boat.</li></ul><p>Resources Mentioned</p><ul><li>📘 <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="underline underline underline-offset-2 decoration-1 decoration-current/40 hover:decoration-current focus:decoration-current" href="https://jamesclear.com/atomic-habits">Atomic Habits – James Clear</a> — Brett references the distinction between action and motion</li><li>📊 <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="underline underline underline-offset-2 decoration-1 decoration-current/40 hover:decoration-current focus:decoration-current" href="https://www.gallup.com/workplace/349484/state-of-the-global-workplace.aspx">Gallup State of the Global Workplace Report</a> — Drew cites the stat that 70% of employee engagement is determined by a direct manager</li><li>🎙️ <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" class="underline underline underline-offset-2 decoration-1 decoration-current/40 hover:decoration-current focus:decoration-current" href="https://www.cloverapp.ai">Clover App</a> — mentioned as a tool for reviewing and analyzing podcast conversations with AI</li></ul>
May 4, 2026
Leadership in the Age of AI
<p>What happens when the tools designed to make leadership easier begin to reshape how we think and learn? In this episode of the Good Company Podcast, Drew Dudley and Brett Elmgren explore how AI is reshaping leadership in ways that are both promising and worth questioning. They discuss the various benefits of AI, especially as a problem-solving tool, and why it’s a game-changer for neurodivergent thinkers. At the same time, they unpack the risks of overreliance, including over-validation and the loss of discomfort that drives real growth. Through the lens of The Matrix and The Karate Kid, they examine the tension between knowing and learning, and the evolving role of leaders in guiding others in an AI-assisted landscape. Rather than offering simple answers, they challenge the assumption that more efficiency always leads to better outcomes and consider what it means to lead in a world where the process itself can be bypassed. Tune in today for a thoughtful look at how leaders can engage with AI without losing what makes leadership human!</p><p><strong>Key Points From This Episode:</strong></p><ul><li>The origin story behind Brett’s company name, Axom Leadership. [0:00:00]</li><li>Personal updates and what’s been going well for Brett and Drew. [0:07:06]</li><li>The concept of psychological safety and its unintended “shadow side.” [0:11:47]</li><li>Today’s topic: How AI is Changing the Work of Leadership. [0:18:52]</li><li>The unique opportunities and risks of AI, especially for neurodivergent thinkers. [0:21:55]</li><li>AI as a tool that removes friction and accelerates thinking and execution. [24:43]</li><li>Finding the balance between removing friction and providing challenge. [0:32:02]</li><li>AI as a safe space to test ideas without real-world consequences. [0:33:21]</li><li>Using AI to challenge thinking, expose blind spots, and add productive friction. [0:41:06]</li><li>Unpacking the role of leadership in the future world of AI. [48:23]</li><li>Lessons from The Karate Kid and The Matrix: the tension between knowing and learning in an AI-driven world. [0:52:22]</li><li>Final takeaways and reflections. [0:59:48] </li></ul><p><strong>Quotes:</strong></p><p>“The irony is, everyone wants to talk about developing resiliency, but then they live in a world of over-validation, and that's a huge issue with AI, – it just tells you everything you do is amazing, and that feels good [but] it is really bad for your ongoing development.” — Brett Elmgren <strong>[0:19:55]</strong></p><p>“The biggest revolution that you're going to see as more people use [AI], is it's going to redefine atypicals’ understanding of their role in leadership.” — Drew Dudley <strong>[0:22:33]</strong></p><p>“What's the equilibrium, if there even is one, between the right amount of friction that it is still developmental, but continues to produce that momentum which is exhilarating and really productive?” — Brett Elmgren <strong>[0:32:51]</strong></p><p>“[AI] allows me to test and fail faster, with fewer consequences than has ever existed before.” — Drew Dudley <strong>[0:34:07]</strong></p><p>“Our role as leaders in a world of AI is to make sure that human leadership still exists. It doesn't become human-assisted leadership. It is AI-assisted leadership, not human-assisted leadership.” — Drew Dudley <strong>[0:52:06]</strong></p><p>“There's a huge difference between learning and knowing, and the leader's job is learning to create the environment where people have the ownership so they can be on the right side of that.” — Brett Elmgren <strong>[01:07:41]</strong></p><p><strong>Links:</strong></p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.drewdudley.com/">Drew Dudley | Everyday Leadership</a></p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.axomleadership.com/">Brett Elmgren | Axom Leadership</a></p>
March 9, 2026
Making Leadership Desirable Again
<p>Join Brett Elmgren & Drew Dudley as they explore trending desires for positions of power and leadership. What does a healthy desire for leadership look like and how can we support leaders who are leading with positive intent? Tune in to learn from the experts!</p>
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<p>Good Company is a podcast all about inspiring leaders to create a positive impact on their organizations. Hosts Drew Dudley of Day One Leadership and Brett Elmgren of Axom Leadership share a wealth of knowledge on leadership in the workplace, and all things related to the people side of business. Engage with Drew and Brett in a "Good" conversation on leadership as they answer your questions and respond to real-life leadership challenges.</p> - How often does this podcast release new episodes?
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