We’re out to normalize sustainability and climate action, and these are conversations with the people helping to make that happen at the brands and companies you love the most (and some you may not have heard of yet). Each week we dive under the surface to learn more about the good things happening - at companies in different industries - directly from the people working on them or leading the charge for change & progress. Each episode is followed up with an Understanding Breakdown by the team at The Underswell.

Good Things Happening! Just under the surface...
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We’re out to normalize sustainability and climate action, and these are conversations with the people helping to make that happen at the brands and companies you love the most (and some you may not have heard of yet). Each week we dive under the surface to learn more about the good things happening - at companies in different industries - directly from the people working on them or leading the charge for change & progress. Each episode is followed up with an Understanding Breakdown by the team at The Underswell.
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November 21, 2023
Lewis Perkins, Apparel Impact Institute | Industry Decarbonization & Beyond
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Lewis Perkins is President at the solutions-oriented industry partner Apparel Impact Institute (Aii) - an industry organization driving collaboration between fashion industry stakeholders. Aii identifies, funds, and measures the impact of sector decarbonization solutions and is aligned with some of the industry’s heaviest hitters. In fact, you might have heard about the announcement of their lead funders for a game-changing $250M Fashion Climate Fund, uniting brands, philanthropic donors, and industry stakeholders.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">This is an ambitious task, but Lewis is an ambitious (yet very realistic) leader. </span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">And it’s not just me saying that - Lewis has been recognized as one of Vogue Business’ 100 Innovators: Sustainability thought leaders at the forefront of sustainability, hand-selected by Vogue Business editors, and featured on The Earthshot Prize’s Expert Advisory Panel.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">In addition to an impressive sustainability resume that includes time at the Cradle to Cradle Products Innovation Institute and Mohawk Industries, Lewis has drive, passion, and an intense understanding of the landscape and what it will take to drive, fund, and scale change.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">In this conversation, Lewis essentially leads a masterclass on how sustainability in the industry has evolved and where it’s headed.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">If you’re leading a movement, seeking systems change, feeling challenged with the idea of scaling the solutions you’ve been piloting, or wondering how to get the money to fund your world-changing solution, then this one’s for you.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Here are some of the <strong>key takeaways</strong> from our talk:</span></p> <ul> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Circularity/ Redesigning Systems</span></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Financing solutions, specifically the concept of catalytic capital </span></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Unlocking the Trillion-Dollar Fashion Decarbonisation Opportunity</span></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">The importance of Supplier Engagement</span></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">The pivot point that drew him into the impact space</span></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">The importance of getting out of the pilot phase cycle and moving into the era of scale and permanence</span></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Convincing and winning over investors</span></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">And so much more.</span></li> </ul> <p><strong>SDG Alignment:</strong> #6 Clean Water & Sanitation, #7 Affordable and Clean Energy, #8 Decent Work and Economic Growth, #9 Industry, Innovation, and Infrastructure,, #12 Responsible Consumption and Production, #13 Climate Action, #17 Partnerships for the Goals</p> <p><strong>Links:</strong></p> <p> </p> <ul> <li><span style="font-weight: 400;">Cradle to Cradle Institute | </span><a href="https://c2ccertified.org/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://c2ccertified.org/</span></a></li> </ul> <p> </p> <ul> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Cradle to Cradle “Fashion Positive” | </span><a href="https://fashionpositive.org/circular-materials/#:~:text=Fashion%20Positive%20was%20launched%20at,impact%20on%20people%20and%20planet."><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://fashionpositive.org/circular-materials/#:~:text=Fashion%20Positive%20was%20launched%20at,impact%20on%20people%20and%20planet.</span></a></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Sustainable Apparel Coalition | </span><a href="https://apparelcoalition.org/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://apparelcoalition.org/</span></a></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Net Impact - </span><a href="https://netimpact.org/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://netimpact.org/</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">BSR | Business for Social Responsibility | </span><a href="https://www.bsr.org/en/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://www.bsr.org/en/</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">We Mean Business Coalition | </span><a href="https://www.wemeanbusinesscoalition.org/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://www.wemeanbusinesscoalition.org/</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Global Fashion Agenda | </span><a href="https://globalfashionagenda.org/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://globalfashionagenda.org/</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Unlocking the Trillion Dollar Opportunity | </span><a href="https://apparelimpact.org/reports/unlocking-the-trillion-dollar-fashion-decarbonisation-opportunity-report/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://apparelimpact.org/reports/unlocking-the-trillion-dollar-fashion-decarbonisation-opportunity-report/</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Catalytic Capital - </span><a href="https://www.macfound.org/programs/catalytic-capital-consortium/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://www.macfound.org/programs/catalytic-capital-consortium/</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">World Resource Institute | </span><a href="https://www.wri.org/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://www.wri.org/</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Fashion Conveners | </span><a href="https://www.fashionconveners.org/quarterly-briefings/q3-2023?utm_source=Social-Media&utm_medium=LinkedIn&utm_campaign=Q3-TE-LinkedIn"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://www.fashionconveners.org/quarterly-briefings/q3-2023?utm_source=Social-Media&utm_medium=LinkedIn&utm_campaign=Q3-TE-LinkedIn</span></a></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Aii Clean by Design | </span><a href="https://apparelimpact.org/what-is-cbd/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://apparelimpact.org/what-is-cbd/</span></a></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">NRDC | </span><a href="https://www.nrdc.org/"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://www.nrdc.org/</span></a></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Dr. Linda Greer on Lewis and Friends Podcast! </span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qnZkyqkhGc"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qnZkyqkhGc</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Lewis & Friends Podcast | </span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@lewisperkins2230/videos"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://www.youtube.com/@lewisperkins2230/videos</span></a></li> <li style="font-weight: 400;"><span style="font-weight: 400;">USGBC | LEED Certifications | </span><a href="https://www.usgbc.org/leed"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://www.usgbc.org/leed</span></a></li> </ul> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Also:</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Be sure to check out our insightful conversation with Jessica Marati Radparvar, founder and lead impact strategist at Reconsidered: </span><a href="https://www.theunderswell.com/podcasts/good-things-happening-just-under-the-surface/episodes/2148280074"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://www.theunderswell.com/podcasts/good-things-happening-just-under-the-surface/episodes/2148280074</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">We cover topics like this in our weekly newsletter - Subscribe now and get the free sustainability resource guide - available at </span><a href="https://www.theunderswell.com/35mustknows"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://www.theunderswell.com/35mustknows</span></a></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Looking for more structured sustainability learning? Check out our School of Understanding. Link here: </span><a href="https://www.theunderswell.com/pkgs"><span style="font-weight: 400;">https://www.theunderswell.com/pkgs</span></a></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">PS: Recorded on RIverside FM - Interested? Do us both a favor: Click here (https://riverside.fm/pricing?via=derek-sabori ) to create your account. You’ll be impressed, and we’ll be rewarded.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">#sustainability #apparelindustry #decarbonization #leadership #careers #marketing #keeplearning #scopethree #supplychain #carbonstrategy #fashion #changemakers #lewisperkins #aii #sustainablefashion</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Intro/Outro music by QubeSounds from Pixabay.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Thanks for watching and/or listening! Our show is available on Spotify, Apple, Google, and YouTube.</span></p> <p><span style="font-weight: 400;">–</span></p>

November 7, 2023
Jessica Marati Radparvar | Founder, Reconsidered, The Change Hub
<p>Jessica Marati Radparvar is the founder and lead impact strategist at <a href="https://www.reconsidered.co/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Reconsidered</a>. Home of The Change Hub, her latest project, Reconsidered is an impact strategy and communications studio focused on helping sustainable business leaders drive bigger, bolder, more sustainable change. If you ask her passionate and loyal community and network, they’ll tell you she’s doing just that.</p> <p>Through her company, Jessica creates resources, teaches courses, and consults on ESG strategy and communications for leading brands and organizations — all toward a vision of a more thriving, just, and resilient world, but not at the cost of her autonomy and balanced life.</p> <p>Jessica has an undergraduate degree in History from Princeton University, received her MBA from New York University’s Leonard N. Stern School of Business, worked at PVH, and counts brands like Etsy, Eileen Fisher, Mailchimp, and J. Crew as her clients.</p> <p>We spoke about all that, and how she draws inspiration and motivation from her native Chamoru and Italian roots; her upbringing in Guam, San Francisco, and Rome; the time she spent living abroad, and how she’s doing all this and making time for the park with her toddler son.</p> <p>Like previous guests on the show, Jessica’s career path has meandered and was built on a solid education, but as she told me, it always felt like all paths were leading her to this work. Impact and sustainability work that, while definitely not exclusive to it, often focuses on fashion, apparel, and textiles.</p> <p>I had such a relatable conversation with Jessica, and I’m so excited for you to dive in and hear all her uplifting stories and valuable advice on things ranging from work-life balance to dealing with the - as she says: fire-hose of new changes that are coming at sustainability practitioners and leads today. If you know, you know - It’s not getting any easier out there….</p> <p>So, whether you’re already working in sustainability or are hoping to someday, or are wondering where to start with ESG, want your company doing more, or are thinking about raising a family as an entrepreneur… this one’s for you.</p> <p>Here are some of the <strong>key takeaways</strong> from our talk:</p> <ul> <li>Reconsidered’s exciting Change Hub</li> <li>Experience at/with world-class brands/groups</li> <li>Freelance journalism & world experience</li> <li>Consulting & communications</li> <li>The ins-and-outs of ESG, Sustainability, Social Impact</li> <li>Adding value (resources) for your audience</li> <li>The entrepreneurial journey (striking a balance)</li> <li>Working Mom, prioritizing autonomy</li> <li>Careers aren’t linear, but you do have to connect the dots</li> <li>Gratitude and appreciation for community</li> <li>Resilience when things don’t go as planned</li> <li>Making the most of your college experience</li> <li>The power of multi-cultural exposure</li> <li>Degrowth as a solution</li> <li>Industry Burnout</li> <li>Change Management</li> </ul> <p>#3 Good Health & Well Being, #4 Quality Education, #5 Gender Equality, #8 Decent Work and Economic Growth, #10 Reduced Inequalities, #12 Responsible Consumption and Production, #13 Climate Action</p> <p>Links:</p> <ul> <li>Reconsidered - <a href="https://www.reconsidered.co/">https://www.reconsidered.co/ </a></li> <li>Reconsidered’s Industry-recognized newsletter - <a href="https://www.reconsidered.co/sign-up">https://www.reconsidered.co/sign-up </a></li> <li>Reconsidered’s jobs board - <a href="https://jobs.reconsidered.co/">https://jobs.reconsidered.co/</a> </li> <li>Reconsidered’s private LinkedIn community <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/groups/13847179/">https://www.linkedin.com/groups/13847179/ </a></li> <li>Change Hub - <a href="https://www.changehub.co/">https://www.changehub.co/ </a></li> <li>Jessica Marati Radparvar - <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicamradparvar/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicamradparvar/ </a></li> <li>NYU Stern’s Center for Business and Human Rights - <a href="https://bhr.stern.nyu.edu/">https://bhr.stern.nyu.edu/ </a></li> <li>FTC Green Guides - <a href="https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/topics/truth-advertising/green-guides">https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/topics/truth-advertising/green-guides </a></li> <li>McPherson Strategies - <a href="https://www.mcpstrategies.com/">https://www.mcpstrategies.com/ </a></li> </ul> <p>Also: Be sure to check out our conversation with Jill Stoneberg, Sr. Director of Social Impact and Sustainability at Virgin Voyages - the award-winning cruise ship division of the Virgin Group: <a href="https://www.theunderswell.com/podcasts/good-things-happening-just-under-the-surface/episodes/2148230147">https://www.theunderswell.com/podcasts/good-things-happening-just-under-the-surface/episodes/2148230147 </a></p> <p>We cover topics like this in our weekly newsletter - Subscribe now and get the free sustainability resource guide - available at <a href="https://www.theunderswell.com/35mustknows">https://www.theunderswell.com/35mustknows</a></p> <p>Looking for more structured sustainability learning? Check out our School of Understanding. Link here: <a href="https://www.theunderswell.com/pkgs">https://www.theunderswell.com/pkgs </a></p> <p>PS: Recorded on RIverside FM - Interested? Do us both a favor: Click here <a href="https://riverside.fm/pricing?via=derek-sabori">https://riverside.fm/pricing?via=derek-sabori</a> to create your account. You’ll be impressed, and we’ll be rewarded.</p> <p>#sustainability #community #entrepreneur #consulting #careers #marketing #keeplearning #socialimpac #communications #strategy #fashion #changemakers #changehub #esg #reconsidered</p> <p>Intro/Outro music by QubeSounds from Pixabay.</p> <p>Thanks for watching and/or listening! Our show is available on Spotify, Apple, Google, and YouTube.</p> <p>–</p>

October 19, 2023
Jill Stoneberg, Virgin Voyages | Creating an Epic Sea Change for All
<p>Jill Stoneberg is Sr. Director of Social Impact and Sustainability at Virgin Voyages - the award-winning cruise ship division of the Virgin Group - helping create a Sea Change for All in the cruise industry. If you haven’t heard, they’re turning heads and helping push the cruise industry (not typically considered a beacon of sustainable development) forward into a more sustainable future.</p> <p>While many professionals in this role worked their way into it through product design, marketing, communications, or engineering tracks, Jill was seemingly born into this work. She attended an environmental studies high school and has been on a steady path of sustainability-focused positions since her undergraduate studies under an environment/society hybrid major she created.</p> <p>Since then, she’s earned an MBA in Sustainable Management and worked in sustainability for companies like Avaya and Intuit before landing what sounds like a dream job for her. Jill leads the company's sustainability and social impact strategy and collaborates cross-functionally to identify priorities and define goals and KPIs. Additionally, she regularly briefs senior management on environmental, social, and governance (ESG) topics and performance.</p> <p>You might be surprised to learn how holistic sustainability was already baked into the vision of the Virgin Voyages company - even before Jill arrived - and how many initiatives Jill has executed and rolled out since her hiring back in 2018 (before the first ship's maiden voyage). But what likely won’t surprise you is how passionate Jill is about this work, how much she believes still needs to be done, and what she hopes to achieve in her lifetime.</p> <p>This was such a fun, insightful, and inspiring conversation. Jill’s love of the company, her work, and her hopes for the future are infectious, and one can’t help but get drawn into her vision and hopes. This ability to draw you in and get you on board (pun intended) is what it takes to be a sustainability leader today. Even if you have all the right credentials.</p> <p>Our conversation included:</p> <ul> <li>Fitting in at a company like Virgin</li> <li>How deep sustainability work requires full leadership support</li> <li>What it takes to drive change in an organization</li> <li>The progress Jill’s been able to make at Virgin Voyages</li> <li>The challenges that still lie ahead</li> <li>Managing sustainability investment costs</li> <li>Putting people at the center of your initiatives</li> <li>Making sustainability part of your organization’s culture Advice to aspiring sustainability professionals (and others in the workforce)</li> <li>And much more</li> </ul> <p>Links:</p> <ul> <li>Virgin Sea Change Promo - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylxXSuGAgPw">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylxXSuGAgPw </a></li> <li>Sustainability at Virgin Voyages - <a href="https://www.virginvoyages.com/sustainability">https://www.virginvoyages.com/sustainability </a></li> <li>Virgin Voyages 2022-2023 Impact Report - <a href="https://www.virginvoyages.com/ahoy/stories/virgin-voyages-impact-report-2023">https://www.virginvoyages.com/ahoy/stories/virgin-voyages-impact-report-2023 </a></li> <li>thinkPARALLAX - <a href="https://www.thinkparallax.com/">https://www.thinkparallax.com/ </a></li> <li>PangeaSeed Foundation - <a href="https://pangeaseed.org/">https://pangeaseed.org/ </a></li> <li>Presidio Graduate School - https://www.presidio.edu/ Mote Marine Lab - <a href="https://mote.org/">https://mote.org/ </a></li> <li>Virgin Unite - <a href="https://unite.virgin.com/index.html?region=us">https://unite.virgin.com/index.html?region=us </a></li> <li>Branson Center of Entrepreneurship - https://bransoncentre.co/ Climeon - <a href="https://climeon.com/">https://climeon.com/ </a></li> <li>Ceres - <a href="https://www.ceres.org/">https://www.ceres.org/ </a></li> </ul> <p>SDG Alignment</p> <p>#3 Good Health & Well Being, #5 Gender Equality, #6 Clean Water & Sanitation, #8 Decent Work and Economic Growth, #9 Industry, Innovation, and Infrastructure, #12 Responsible Consumption and Production, #13 Climate Action, #14 Life Below Water</p> <p>Also: Be sure to check out our conversation with Richard Yelland, Director of the film Seeding Change, and Professor Nichole Wissman, who’s using it to inspire students: <a href="https://www.theunderswell.com/podcasts/good-things-happening-just-under-the-surface/episodes/2148192137">https://www.theunderswell.com/podcasts/good-things-happening-just-under-the-surface/episodes/2148192137 </a></p> <p>We cover topics like this in our weekly newsletter - Subscribe now and get the free sustainability resource guide - Available at <a href="https://www.theunderswell.com/35mustknows">https://www.theunderswell.com/35mustknows</a></p> <p>Looking for more structured sustainability learning? Check out our School of Understanding. Link here: <a href="https://www.theunderswell.com/pkgs">https://www.theunderswell.com/pkgs </a></p> <p>PS: Recorded on RIverside FM - Interested? Do us both a favor: Click here (https://riverside.fm/pricing?via=derek-sabori ) to create your account. You’ll be impressed, and we’ll be rewarded.</p> <p>#sustainability #cruiseIndustry #seachange #virginvoyages #careers #triplebottomline #keeplearning #purpose #impact #empowerment #oceans #womeninleadership #collaboration #CSR #ESG #changemakers #sustainabilityreporting #presidio #environmentalstudies</p> <p>Intro/Outro music by QubeSounds from Pixabay.</p> <p>Thanks for watching and/or listening! Our show is available on Spotify, Apple, Google, and YouTube.</p>
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