Goodman Report Podcast

About Goodman Report Podcast

Hosted by Mark Goodman, principal at Goodman Commercial, the Goodman Report Podcast takes you inside Vancouver's real estate market. With over two decades of experience, Mark offers expert insights on rental apartments, development land, and commercial investment properties. Each episode features discussions on market trends, industry drivers, and in-depth interviews with investors, developers, architects, politicians, mortgage brokers, and more. Get a behind-the-scenes look at the deals, challenges, and dynamics shaping Metro Vancouver’s real estate scene. Tune in for expert analysis, industry gossip, and real stories from the people who are shaping the market. -- For more, visit: Website: www.goodmanreport.com (http://www.goodmanreport.com) LinkedIn: Goodman Report on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/goodmanreport) X: Goodman Report on X (https://x.com/goodmanreport) Facebook: Goodman Report on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/goodmanreport) Instagram: Goodman Report on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/goodmanreport) YouTube: Goodman Report on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5H9E6nC38zzHA_RenK1qyozUTpkTcR9h)

Publisher

Mark Goodman

Category

business · news

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

4 Dec 2024

Latest episode

22 Sept 2026

Latest episodes

5 of 12 episodes have a transcript.

1. 

   22 Sept 2026TRANSCRIPT

   Rick Ilich, Founder & CEO of Townline: A Base-Hit Builder Still Showing the Way

   Host Michael Goodman interviews Rick Ilich, Founder & CEO of Townline, about his decades of experience building successful developments and navigating industry challenges.

2. 

   1 Apr 2026TRANSCRIPT

   BC Premier David Eby: The Radical Reformer turned Reformed Radical shares a surprising change in direction

   I have to admit that I was surprised when David Eby’s office accepted our shot-in-the-dark invitation for the NDP Premier of British Columbia to join me on the Goodman Report podcast. Even then, I wasn’t ready for how open, funny, self-critical and transformed the premier seemed in our hour together. The surprises started with my first question, when I asked him about the recent budget and, especially, the deficit. The premier dropped his head, slouched in the chair and said, “Talk about a dumpster fire. I mean $13.3 billion. It’s just brutal.” The worst part, Eby said, is that the next “really urgent” policy shift will be to cut revenue, because, “we have to get rid of the foreign buyer and speculation taxes.” He went on, “This is hard, because the (NDP) base loves those taxes. But people don’t realize how badly they have kneecapped the development industry. And, seriously, construction is the third or fourth biggest employer in B.C. Those taxes are killing jobs.” Talking about the housing crisis in general, Eby also said he’s aware that you can’t help renters without helping – or at least not hurting – the people who build and own rental housing, which also requires a change in direction. “I get it,” he said. “Capping rent increases below the rate of inflation – that was just a dumb idea.” When I asked the premier about other things he might admit as mistakes, he said, “Well, it’s politics. It’s hard. Like reconciliation: that’s a great idea. It’s really important. But UNDRIP? We’re really climbing down on that.” On climate change. Eby said, “If you remember, the NDP campaigned against the carbon tax right from the start. The only reason we kept it was because (Green Party leader Andrew) Weaver and (then-Premier John) Horgan were, like, rugby buddies and we needed the Greens to take power.” Now, Eby has killed the carbon tax and, recently, reassigned staff from the Climate Action Secretariat to work on expanding fossil fuel infrastructure. “It’s like (former NDP cabinet minister and LNG lobbyist Moe) Sihota always says: the NDP’s best budget surpluses were floating on gas royalties from the northeast. We need more of that.” When I noted that the NDP is still warring with Alberta over pipelines – quoting then-Premier Horgan’s promise to use “every tool in the toolbox” to stop the Trans Mountain pipeline – Eby said, “C’mon, I saw that toolbox; there was nothing in it but a dull pencil and a stale donut. Seriously, if the feds are still buying, we’ll get the next pipeline through even faster than the Trans Mountain.” Finally, I asked how Eby expects to keep his job if he abandons so many policies the left holds sacred. And what came next was the biggest shock of the podcast. He said, “Well, the BC Conservative Party leadership vacancy opens a real opportunity. I mean, do the math. It would only take four NDP MLAs crossing the floor with me to give the Conservatives a majority. “We have a team in place and negotiations underway. And as one of my advisors said, I can switch parties and I won’t even have to change offices.” We both laughed. After all: it’s April 1. Follow The Goodman Report: Website: www.goodmanreport.com (http://www.goodmanreport.com/) LinkedIn: Goodman Report on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/goodmanreport) X: Goodman Report on X (https://x.com/goodmanreport) Facebook: Goodman Report on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/goodmanreport) Instagram: Goodman Report on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/goodmanreport) YouTube: Goodman Report on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@goodmanreport)

3. 

   5 Mar 2026TRANSCRIPT

   Beau Jarvis, CEO of Wesgroup Properties: A Real Estate Rockstar

   Host Michael Goodman interviews Beau Jarvis, CEO of Wesgroup Properties, about the critical factors hindering Canada's housing development and potential policy solutions.

4. 

   30 Jan 2026TRANSCRIPT

   Eric Carlson, CEO of Anthem Properties: Uber-Builder & Blistering Critic of Lefty Ideologues

   Eric Carlson has a well-earned reputation as a blistering critic of the dumb, ideological interventions of government. He is also one of a handful of Vancouver development-industry heavyweights—someone who has been helping reshape the region for decades while building a diversified, integrated, international real estate and development empire. His Anthem Properties Group (https://anthemproperties.com/) now employs more than 850 people here and abroad. But Carlson may be most famous in the public mind for a searing attack on NDP Premier David Eby that ran in the Victoria Times Colonist just before the last election—an outburst that quickly went viral. Reading that piece, you might expect to meet a snarling polemicist with blood in his teeth. In person—and on the upcoming podcast—Carlson proves to be so much more. He’s a guy who can rightly rile up a crowd. But when you ask him to back up the sharp invective, what you get is—well—nuance. Carlson has revealed himself as a lifelong student of psychology, history, international relations... and even music appreciation. The man is razor-sharp. He thinks fast, explains complex issues clearly and without bullshit, all while remaining surprisingly compassionate. He speaks with real authority, zero filter, and a brutal sense of humour. Tough as nails, yet genuinely funny. There’s no question that Carlson is fierce. He still puts in 80-hour weeks and stays deep in the weeds on every aspect of his business. But he’s also willing to go deep. Our conversation ranged from childhood influences and the early grind to Anthem’s evolution, why company culture matters, Vancouver civic politics, communism, ESG (what he calls corporate wokeism), the game-changing Cowichan fee-simple decision, global macroeconomic shifts, and everything in between. From Anthem’s corporate strategy to Carlson’s measured analysis of the issues, the person you find at the mic is someone deeply thoughtful—who assumes you probably are, too. -- Links for this episode: Follow Anthem Properties: Website: https://anthemproperties.com/ (https://anthemproperties.com/) Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theanthemway/ (https://www.instagram.com/theanthemway/) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheAnthemWay/ (https://www.facebook.com/TheAnthemWay/) LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-carlson-16b09614 (https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-carlson-16b09614/) Follow The Goodman Report: Website: www.goodmanreport.com (http://www.goodmanreport.com/) LinkedIn: Goodman Report on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/goodmanreport) X: Goodman Report on X (https://x.com/goodmanreport) Facebook: Goodman Report on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/goodmanreport) Instagram: Goodman Report on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/goodmanreport) YouTube: Goodman Report on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@goodmanreport)

5. 

   23 Oct 2025TRANSCRIPT

   Nelson Skalbania: Vancouver’s Mythic Deal-Making Tycoon – fame, fortune & wisdom from 11,000 mistakes

   Nelson Skalbania shares stories and wisdom gleaned from his extensive career as a Vancouver deal-making tycoon, discussing real estate, hockey, and encounters with figures like Donald Trump in this interview.

6. 

   4 Jul 2025

   Michael Audain, Chairman, Polygon Homes: How a left-wing activist became one of BC’s most accomplished business leaders and philanthropists

   Michael Audain, Chairman of Polygon Homes, recounts his journey from left-wing activist to accomplished business leader and philanthropist, highlighting his unexpected turns and unwavering perseverance in an interview.

7. 

   12 May 2025

   Brent Sawchyn, PC Urban Properties CEO: A Generational Talent Tackling Multi-Generational Challenges

   It’s always great when a single conversation makes you smarter, and that’s how I felt after sitting down with Brent Sawchyn, CEO of PC Urban Properties Corp (https://www.pcurban.ca/)., for this episode of the Goodman Report podcast. Brent is a generational talent. He has spent 35 years in the development business, earning his spurs alongside high performers like Ian Gillespie at Westbank (https://westbankcorp.com/) and Eric Carlson at Anthem Properties (https://anthemproperties.com/), so he’s seen his share of highs and lows. Brent was smart enough that when he started PC Urban in 2012, he steered clear of the oversubscribed condo market and jumped into purpose-built rentals, while also launching an innovative and incredibly successful version of industrial strata. Now that others seem to be abandoning condos, Brent looks like a man who has been taking the pulse of the market from a point slightly upstream of his competitors. Our podcast conversation is rich with lessons learned. It’s clear that Brent Sawchyn has a firm grasp of the usual business aphorisms: the only constant is change; every crisis leads to opportunity; we’re all in it together; it’s a marathon, not a sprint. Unlike many others, however, he actually applies these lessons in his business. Brent is also an avid student of his own mistakes, admitting, for example, that he was once among the developers who spent too much time yelling at city planners – people who usually weren’t even responsible for the policies making it harder for PC Urban to develop good properties. Now, Brent has learned to listen. Instead of lobbying for what he wants – and complaining when he doesn’t get it – he goes to City Hall to find out how to solve planners’ problems, to excellent effect. These and other lessons have made PC Urban a success, and Brent’s seasoned judgment will be essential as we face a market disruption that could be unprecedented in the last century. If, like me, you’re eager to understand how best to face this multi-generational challenge, join me with Brent Sawchyn on this episode of the Goodman Report podcast. So much history. So much good judgment. -- Follow Brent Sawchyn: LinkedIn - https://ca.linkedin.com/in/brentsawchyn?trk=public_post-text (https://ca.linkedin.com/in/brentsawchyn?trk=public_post-text) Website - https://www.pcurban.ca/ (https://www.pcurban.ca/) Follow The Goodman Report: Website: www.goodmanreport.com (http://www.goodmanreport.com/) LinkedIn: Goodman Report on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/goodmanreport) X: Goodman Report on X (https://x.com/goodmanreport) Facebook: Goodman Report on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/goodmanreport) Instagram: Goodman Report on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/goodmanreport) YouTube: Goodman Report on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@goodmanreport)

8. 

   15 Mar 2025

   Kerry Gold: The Trusted Voice of The Globe and Mail

   Kerry Gold has been a full-time professional journalist for the last 30 years, and for more than half that time she’s been covering the real estate and housing beat for the Globe and Mail. She got her start at the Courier community newspaper and after a couple of years caught the attention of the Vancouver Sun editor-in-chief, who hired the young cub reporter to work in the paper’s entertainment section. During her tenure as the paper’s music critic—back in the days when newspapers had music critics and proper entertainment sections—she met a young struggling Michael Bublé and became the first journalist to write about the singer. She later penned his memoir for Random House UK, which launched her own side career as an author of several books for various businesspeople, including the Toigo family, who own White Spot. She’s written for the Walrus, where she wrote a popular cover story on Vancouver’s growing reputation as a magnet for international wealth. She’s written for American publications Variety, L.A. Weekly, and for the Toronto Star, BC Business, Vancouver Magazine, Macleans, and for the Globe’s Property Report commercial real estate section, as well as many other publications. As a columnist for the Globe, she’s covered everything from market cycles to lack of affordable housing to investment and speculation, short-term rentals, displacement of tenants, developer frustrations with municipal fees and ever-changing government policies, and fascinating data on B.C.’s housing situation. In this episode, we discuss why she called Vancouver a “freak show” in 2017, what makes her lose sleep at night, the Broadway plan, why she started writing about foreign buying, how the market has changed, the ongoing supply debate, the problems with building rental, the challenge of having to work with a one-week lag time, the ugliness of social media, and how you should never read the comments section. We also get into an interesting discussion about media bias and agenda-driven journalism, and what it’s like being in the public eye. -- Follow Kerry Gold: The Globe and Mail - https://www.theglobeandmail.com/authors/kerry-gold/ (https://www.theglobeandmail.com/authors/kerry-gold/) LinkedIn - https://ca.linkedin.com/in/kerry-gold-60a9016 (https://ca.linkedin.com/in/kerry-gold-60a9016) X - https://x.com/goldinyvr?lang=en (https://x.com/goldinyvr?lang=en) Follow The Goodman Report: Website: www.goodmanreport.com (http://www.goodmanreport.com/) LinkedIn: Goodman Report on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/goodmanreport) X: Goodman Report on X (https://x.com/goodmanreport) Facebook: Goodman Report on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/goodmanreport) Instagram: Goodman Report on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/goodmanreport) YouTube: Goodman Report on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@goodmanreport)

9. 

   26 Feb 2025

   City Builders: How Vancouver punished the Maleks for building Olympic Village

   Our latest podcast is with Richard Littlemore on his new book, City Builders, a family and corporate history of the Maleks and Millennium Development and a blistering review of the grimy politics and catastrophic political intervention that marred their development of Olympic Village. Vancouver developers Peter and Shahram Malek have lost two great fortunes, both times at the hands of a hostile government. First, as young men in the flush of success, they were forced from Revolutionary Iran, leaving behind the massive construction and development business built by their father. Second, and more surprisingly, after rebuilding in Vancouver, to the point that they could deliver an internationally admired 25-acre, 1.5 million-square-foot Athletes Village in time for the 2010 Olympics, the City pushed the project into insolvency and seized everything but the Maleks’ own homes. Either disaster would have ruined less resilient players. The Maleks, however, stand triumphant, and their company, Millenium Development Corporation, continues to enhance their chosen home of Metro Vancouver. When they found themselves attacked, rather than thanked, they never faltered. They remain—greatly to the benefit of their fellow citizens—city builders. -- Follow Richard Littlemore: Latest Book: City Builders by Richard Littlemore - https://www.indigo.ca/en-ca/city-builders-the-maleks-the-olympics-and-a-historic-gift-to-vancouver/9781998841042.html (https://www.indigo.ca/en-ca/city-builders-the-maleks-the-olympics-and-a-historic-gift-to-vancouver/9781998841042.html) LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/richardlittlemore/?originalSubdomain=ca (https://www.linkedin.com/in/richardlittlemore/?originalSubdomain=ca) X - https://x.com/rlittlemore?lang=en (https://x.com/rlittlemore?lang=en) Follow The Goodman Report: Website: www.goodmanreport.com (http://www.goodmanreport.com/) LinkedIn: Goodman Report on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/goodmanreport) X: Goodman Report on X (https://x.com/goodmanreport) Facebook: Goodman Report on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/goodmanreport) Instagram: Goodman Report on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/goodmanreport) YouTube: Goodman Report on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@goodmanreport)

10. 

    14 Jan 2025

    The Greatest Challenges Facing Vancouver's Housing Sector with Cressey’s Hani Lammam

    In episode 2, Mark Goodman sits down with Hani Lammam, Executive VP of Cressey Development Group (https://cressey.com/), to discuss his journey from a high school laborer to leading one of Vancouver's top development firms. With over 25 years in the real estate industry, Hani shares his insights into the challenges and opportunities in today’s market. “The institutions and the big corporations, they're the stabilizing factor in the marketplace. They are the ones who are disciplined, who are very careful about how they underwrite these investments. And I think where it all kind of falls apart is because there is not an appreciation for the risk that investors take. It’s a big risk. This is a lot of money and the return is minimal. We're literally talking about three to four percent yields on investment. That's not very good. So these are not very profitable investments. This is an investment into the future. And we should embrace these investors because they are literally the ones that are supporting the housing stock, as opposed to demonizing them and somehow suggesting that the financialization of real estate is bad. When people say that, I kind of recognize how naïve they are about how the world works. You almost can't respond to it because they’re just oblivious.” – Hani Lammam, Cressey Development Key highlights: Housing Affordability Crisis: Supply shortages, increased taxes, complex regulatory demands and ineffective policies are driving up rents and making housing unaffordable Misconception of Foreign Buyers and Corporations: They are not the primary issue; the lack of supply is the main cause of the housing problem. Inefficiency of Rental Protection Fund: While it preserves social housing, it removes affordable units from the market and doesn't create new stock. TOA Initiative Flaws: The Transit Oriented Area initiative sets density targets but leaves details to municipalities, leading to conflicting policies and lack of progress. Need for Coordination: Developers and municipalities must collaborate to create feasible housing solutions, with advocates or champions helping navigate the approval process. Cautious Optimism for 2025: There is hope for political change and structural fixes that could improve the housing situation and create development opportunities. Despite market challenges, Hani’s team stays nimble, deeply involved in project details, and focused on sustainable growth. Tune in for an in-depth look at Vancouver’s real estate future! 👂 Listen to the full conversation. You won’t want to miss this! -- Follow The Goodman Report: Website: www.goodmanreport.com (http://www.goodmanreport.com/) LinkedIn: Goodman Report on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/goodmanreport) X: Goodman Report on X (https://x.com/goodmanreport) Facebook: Goodman Report on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/goodmanreport) Instagram: Goodman Report on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/goodmanreport) YouTube: Goodman Report on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@goodmanreport)

11. 

    11 Dec 2024

    Goodman Interviews Legendary New York City Powerhouse Broker Bob Knakal

    In the inaugural episode of Goodman Report Podcast, host Mark Goodman interviews Bob Knakal, a veteran in the New York City commercial real estate industry with over 40 years of experience. We dive into Bob's incredible career and his strategies for success in one of the world's most competitive real estate markets. Bob is a true titan in commercial real estate. As the founder of BKRE in New York City, he has led some of the city's largest, high-profile transactions and personally sold billions of dollars in properties. His expertise in the Manhattan market is unmatched. Bob shares his unexpected entry into real estate, his rigorous daily routine, and his business strategies. The discussion covers the differences between the Vancouver and Manhattan real estate markets, the impact of technology, and the challenges of housing affordability. Bob emphasizes the importance of mentorship, delegation, and perseverance in the industry. The episode concludes with insights into Bob's career and advice for newcomers in real estate. 🔑 Topic highlights include: Bob’s journey from beginner to #1 commercial broker in Manhattan Gaining a competitive edge: Asset class specialization and geographic focus A "day in the life" of Bob Knakal – working 16-hour days, staying energized, and achieving it all Bob’s favorite aspects of the business: Negotiation, business origination, valuation, marketing, mentoring, and more A deep dive into the Manhattan market: Number of properties, turnover rates, average deal size, cap rates Navigating the political climate: Rent control, over-taxation, landlord vilification, and more Bob’s biggest mistakes and lessons learned in his 40-year career (spoiler alert: no one wins every deal) How Bob is embracing change, including AI, in his new venture Whether you're a seasoned pro or just starting out, this episode is packed with invaluable insights from one of the best in the business. -- For more, visit: Website: www.goodmanreport.com (http://www.goodmanreport.com/) LinkedIn: Goodman Report on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/goodmanreport) X: Goodman Report on X (https://x.com/goodmanreport) Facebook: Goodman Report on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/goodmanreport) Instagram: Goodman Report on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/goodmanreport) YouTube: Goodman Report on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@goodmanreport)

12. 

    4 Dec 2024

    Goodman Report Podcast - Official Trailer

    Welcome to the Goodman Report Podcast! I’m Mark Goodman, principal at Goodman Commercial – a leading force in Vancouver's real estate market. Our firm has been a trusted name in rental apartment buildings, development land, and commercial investment properties for over 40 years. Now, we’re bringing the insights that have shaped our success directly to you in podcast form. Each episode, we’ll dive deep into the world of real estate – exploring market trends, the latest drivers, and industry insights. But we don’t stop there. We’re also bringing you the voices behind the deals: investors, politicians, architects, developers, mortgage brokers, and thought leaders who are shaping the housing and commercial real estate landscape. And, of course, you’ll hear from me – Mark Goodman – as I pull back the curtain on the deals we’re making, the challenges we face, and everything in between. Get ready for the good, the bad, the ugly, and yes, the gossip – as I share a behind-the-scenes look at Metro Vancouver’s real estate investment market. Since 1983, our flagship Goodman Report has provided the highest-quality market insights for our clients. Now, we’re delivering that expertise directly to you. So, be sure to follow the Goodman Report Podcast on your favorite platform and subscribe to get the latest episodes. -- For more, visit: Website: www.goodmanreport.com (http://www.goodmanreport.com) LinkedIn: Goodman Report on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/goodmanreport) X: Goodman Report on X (https://x.com/goodmanreport) Facebook: Goodman Report on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/goodmanreport) Instagram: Goodman Report on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/goodmanreport) YouTube: Goodman Report on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@goodmanreport)

Inside a recent episode

Rick Ilich, Founder & CEO of Townline: A Base-Hit Builder Still Showing the Way

Published 22 Sept 2026 · Transcript excerpt

[…] So some stats. Since the peak of 2023, Vancouver rental rates are down roughly 20%. Vacancy is at least 3.7% and as high as 11% in some newer purpose-built buildings. As you know, immigration has been significantly reduced. Is this the normal market now? Is this balance? Is this what we've been waiting for? Or is this like a temporary pause before the next squeeze? I think we were all seeking balance in the market. And what is balanced? It depends who's at the table. It's 3% vacancy, 4% vacancy. That gives ranchers options. This is not balanced. This is an oversupply for a moment. And thus, the natural forces of a natural free market have come into play. […]

Who has been a guest on Goodman Report Podcast

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• Rick Ilich
• Beau Jarvis
• Nelson Skalbania
• Michael Audain

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YouTube views

14,801

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Spotify

5.0 / 5

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Podcast Authority Score: 24 / 100

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