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#101 - When Your Church Doesn’t Share Your Heart for Evangelism (Part 2)
What do you do when your church doesn't share your heart for evangelism?
In this episode of Gospel Talks, George Binoka and Jeff Musgrave continue their conversation about a pastor's struggle when the church he leads isn't actively reaching the lost.
The answer isn't simply to preach another sermon on evangelism.
Pastors must model it. They must bring people with them, equip them, help them take their first steps, and coach them through the fear and uncertainty that often keeps Christians from engaging their neighbors, coworkers, friends, and family members.
George and Jeff also talk about what happens when a church has developed a negative reputation in its community. How does a church rebuild trust? How long does it take? And what does genuine repentance look like when a church has become known as inward-focused?
From modeling evangelism to praying for open doors, from loving difficult neighbors to rebuilding a church's reputation, this conversation challenges pastors and church members alike to stop talking about evangelism and start living it.
The harvest is still plentiful. The question is whether we are willing to become the laborers God has called us to be.
00:00 Modeling Evangelism in Church Leadership
02:19 The Importance of Training and Equipping
05:11 Overcoming Barriers to Evangelism
07:58 Building Genuine Relationships for Evangelism
10:24 Addressing Community Perceptions of the Church
13:11 Creating Opportunities for Spiritual Conversations
15:51 Rebuilding Church Credibility in the Community
18:14 The Role of Prayer in Evangelism
20:58 Repentance and Changing Church Culture
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28 Sept 2026
#100 - What Do You Do When Your Church Doesn’t Care About Evangelism?
What do you do when you love your church, have taught evangelism, modeled evangelism, created opportunities for evangelism—and your people still don't seem interested?
In this episode of Gospel Talks, George and Jeff respond to a pastor's wife who wrote about the discouragement of trying to cultivate a culture of personal evangelism in a church that largely defines evangelism by door knocking, handing out tracts, and inviting people to church events.
George and Jeff talk honestly about pastoral discouragement, leadership, patience, modeling, discipleship, and the difference between doing evangelistic activities and actually living evangelistically. They also explore why relational evangelism requires more than simply telling people what to do—it requires showing them what an evangelistic life looks like.
Most importantly, they ask a deeper question: Is evangelism something we do, or is it part of who we are?
If you've ever felt alone in your desire to reach people with the gospel, this conversation is for you.
18 Sept 2026
#99 - Are You Playing It Too Safe With Evangelism? (Part 2)
In Part 2 of “Are You Playing Too Safe With The Gospel” George Binoka and Jeff Musgrave talk about the everyday situations where Christians can step into meaningful gospel conversations—new neighbors, coworkers, family gatherings, hospital visits, weddings, funerals, crises, waiting rooms, and even sporting events.
But what does success in evangelism actually look like? George and Jeff explore why biblical faithfulness—not conversion statistics—is the measure of success. They discuss the fear that keeps Christians from taking gospel risks, the importance of relational evangelism, and how God invites us to participate in the rescue work He is already doing.
Jeff also shares a powerful story of an atheist who came to faith after simply being given a chance to encounter the gospel.
The challenge is simple: God doesn't expect us to win the world. He does expect us to faithfully do something for someone.
Listen, look for the opportunities God puts in your path, and give the gospel a chance.
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