Grand Canyon Criminal Defense
Claim This Podcastby David Lish & Ryan McPhie
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<p>Welcome to the official podcast of Grand Canyon Law Group—Arizona’s premier dedicated criminal defense firm. Hosted by founding attorneys David Lish and Ryan McPhie, this show goes beyond the courtroom.</p><p>Each episode explores real criminal cases, legal outcomes, and the stories behind the charges—from DUI to domestic violence, assault to white collar crimes. As former prosecutors turned fierce defense attorneys, David and Ryan bring unmatched insight, candid conversation, and a touch of grit.</p><p>But it's not all law and order—we’ll also share hidden gems across Arizona, local legends, interviews with community voices, and the secret spots we love when we're off the clock.</p><p>Whether you're navigating the justice system, curious about the truth behind high-stakes cases, or just want to hear two Arizona attorneys shoot straight—this podcast has you covered.</p>
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Recent Episodes
June 23, 2026
The Drunken Confession That Caught The Phoenix Serial Shooters
<p>For over a year, two men turned the Phoenix Valley into a shooting gallery. The killings were random, the weapons kept changing, and police were already hunting one serial killer when they realized a second pair of shooters was operating at the same time. The break came from the last place anyone expected: a bar stool confession after too many drinks.</p><p>David and Ryan break down the full Phoenix Serial Shooters case, from the investigation to the trial to the appeal. You'll hear how an emergency wiretap caught Dale Hausner and Sam Dietman on tape mocking their own victims, why the prosecutor's plea deal structure was a masterclass in trial strategy, and what happened when Hausner told the judge to skip mitigation and just give him death. If you lived in the Valley during 2005 and 2006, this one hits different.</p><p></p><p>Topics discussed:</p><p></p><p>00:00 - Introduction</p><p>01:06 - Two serial killers terrorizing Phoenix at the same time</p><p>01:53 - How the killings started and escalated</p><p>04:48 - The drunken confession that broke the case</p><p>09:00 - The emergency wiretap and what police heard</p><p>17:02 - The trial: 88 counts and the verdict</p><p>19:48 - Dietman's plea deal and a brilliant prosecution move</p><p>26:00 - Hausner waives mitigation and asks for death</p><p>33:06 - The appeal: was the wiretap legal?</p><p>37:00 - The ethics of defending the indefensible</p><p></p><p>Connect with us:</p><p></p><p>LinkedIn: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/grand-canyon-law-group/">https://www.linkedin.com/company/grand-canyon-law-group/</a></p><p>Facebook: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.facebook.com/grandcanyonlawgroup/">https://www.facebook.com/grandcanyonlawgroup/</a></p><p>Instagram: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/grandcanyonlawgroup/">https://www.instagram.com/grandcanyonlawgroup/</a></p><p>X: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://x.com/grandcanyonlaw/">https://x.com/grandcanyonlaw/</a></p><p>TikTok: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.tiktok.com/@grand.canyon.law">https://www.tiktok.com/@grand.canyon.law</a></p><p>Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.grandcanyon.law/">https://www.grandcanyon.law/</a></p><p></p><p>This episode was produced by Podcast Boutique: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.podcastboutique.com">https://www.podcastboutique.com</a></p>
June 9, 2026
The Secret Recording That Solved a 12-Year-Old Car Bomb Murder
<p>Gary Triano finished a round of golf at La Paloma, got in his car, and it blew up. It was his birthday. The bomb was remotely detonated, meaning someone was watching. What looked like a mob hit turned into something far more personal. His ex-wife Pamela Phillips was a state away in Colorado with what seemed like a perfect alibi, but a separate fraud investigation connected her to a co-conspirator named Ron Young, and what investigators found in his van blew the case wide open.</p><p>David Lish and Ryan McPhie break down how microcassette recordings, hotel receipts, and a $2 million life insurance policy built a purely circumstantial case that held up through two separate trials. You'll hear how competency proceedings nearly derailed everything, why the defense pointed the finger at mob associates and angry investors, how Austria's extradition conditions took the death penalty off the table, and what the recorded phone calls actually prove.</p><p></p><p>Topics discussed:</p><p>00:00 - Introduction</p><p>01:53 - Who was Gary Triano?</p><p>02:43 - The debts, the enemies, and the mob connections</p><p>04:48 - The car bomb murder at La Paloma</p><p>06:04 - The device: a remotely detonated pipe bomb</p><p>07:07 - Too many suspects, no clear lead</p><p>08:07 - A fraud case in Colorado cracks everything open</p><p>10:32 - What they found in Ronald Young's van</p><p>11:37 - The $2 million life insurance policy</p><p>13:12 - Arrests: America's Most Wanted and a chase to Austria</p><p>15:24 - Extradition conditions and the death penalty exception</p><p>16:40 - Rule 11: competency to stand trial</p><p>22:36 - Third party culpability defense and its limits</p><p>27:44 - Circumstantial vs. direct evidence and burden of proof</p><p>34:42 - The recorded phone calls that sealed the case</p><p></p><p>Connect with us:</p><p></p><p>LinkedIn: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/grand-canyon-law-group/">https://www.linkedin.com/company/grand-canyon-law-group/</a></p><p>Facebook: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.facebook.com/grandcanyonlawgroup/">https://www.facebook.com/grandcanyonlawgroup/</a></p><p>Instagram: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/grandcanyonlawgroup/">https://www.instagram.com/grandcanyonlawgroup/</a></p><p>X: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://x.com/grandcanyonlaw/">https://x.com/grandcanyonlaw/</a></p><p>TikTok: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.tiktok.com/@grand.canyon.law">https://www.tiktok.com/@grand.canyon.law</a></p><p>Website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.grandcanyon.law/">https://www.grandcanyon.law/</a></p><p></p>
May 26, 2026
The Love Triangle That Ended in Murder by Hammer
<p>A husband is beaten with a hammer. His wife says an intruder did it. Then the story changes again… and again.</p><p>When police arrived at the home of Dale Harrell and Marissa Devault, they found Dale barely alive and Marissa covered in blood. What followed was one of Arizona’s most bizarre murder cases — a trial filled with conflicting stories, allegations of abuse, a suspicious attack on the defendant, a roommate with severe memory problems, and a secret relationship prosecutors claimed revealed the true motive.</p><p>In this episode, we break down the murder trial that drew constant comparisons to the Jodi Arias case. From the failed intruder defense to the prosecution’s “love triangle turned insurance scheme” theory, we analyze the evidence, trial strategy, witness credibility, and the legal issues that made this case unforgettable.</p><p></p><p>Topics discussed:</p><p></p><p>00:00 - Introduction</p><p>02:06 - The 911 call and the bloody crime scene</p><p>03:20 - Marissa’s self-defense and abuse claims</p><p>04:43 - The mysterious attack on Marissa after her release</p><p>07:36 - The multiple stories Marissa gave investigators</p><p>10:02 - The secret sugar daddy relationship revealed</p><p>13:01 - Media coverage and comparisons to Jodi Arias</p><p>17:15 - Problems with the self-defense argument</p><p>30:21 - The controversial testimony deal with Alan Flores</p><p>47:08 - Marissa’s interrogation and reenactment of the hammer attack</p><p></p><p>Connect with us:</p><p></p><p><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.grandcanyon.law/">https://www.grandcanyon.law/</a></p>
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- What is Grand Canyon Criminal Defense?
<p>Welcome to the official podcast of Grand Canyon Law Group—Arizona’s premier dedicated criminal defense firm. Hosted by founding attorneys David Lish and Ryan McPhie, this show goes beyond the courtroom.</p><p>Each episode explores real criminal cases, legal outcomes, and the stories behind the charges—from DUI to domestic violence, assault to white collar crimes. As former prosecutors turned fierce defense attorneys, David and Ryan bring unmatched insight, candid conversation, and a touch of grit.</p><p>But it's not all law and order—we’ll also share hidden gems across Arizona, local legends, interviews with community voices, and the secret spots we love when we're off the clock.</p><p>Whether you're navigating the justice system, curious about the truth behind high-stakes cases, or just want to hear two Arizona attorneys shoot straight—this podcast has you covered.</p> - How often does this podcast release new episodes?
This podcast updates daily.
- Where can I listen to this podcast?
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Yes, this podcast regularly features guests.
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