You know what we talk a lot about? Living: better, longer and with purpose. But, in most of our conversations, we’re missing – or rather, avoiding – a layer of living: dying, which is inevitable for all of us. Talking about it won’t make it happen sooner (swear!). In fact, it may make it happen better. Why not make a Grand Exit?
Enter “the conversation” with Tamatha Thomas-Haase - who’s living like she’s dying because metastatic breast cancer tells her that the scans, tests and treatments won’t end until her life does - and Chelsea Leader Gold -- whose family schooled her in how to live on.
Leave feeling more alive.
In this episode, Tamatha and Chelsea trace the “invisible threads” that weave through lineage, friendship, work and love, exploring the ways we are tethered to those who came before us and those we’ll never meet.
This conversation moves between the deeply personal and the expansively metaphysical.
Along the way, the two friends ask: What parts of connection are already alive in us? How do we honor them? And can threads of legacy stretch beyond bloodlines—into the lives we touch, the work we pass on and the love we leave behind?
If you’ve ever felt a sudden kinship with someone, sensed the presence of those who’ve gone before or wondered what holds us together when nothing else makes sense—this episode – the Season 3 finale – is for you.
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Season 4 coming soon!
26 Mar 2026TRANSCRIPT
Knowing When to Call It: The (Beautiful) Death of 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘉𝘪𝘨 𝘘𝘶𝘪𝘦𝘵, with Jesse Israel
What happens when something beautiful is complete — but you’re still afraid to let it go? And then what happens when you do it anyway?
In this episode of Grand Exit, Tamatha and Chelsea sit down with Jesse Israel (https://www.jesseisrael.com/) — former music executive, founder of The Big Quiet (https://www.thebigquiet.com/), and now leadership coach and speaker — to explore the birth, life, and conscious ending of a movement that helped thousands of people get quiet together.
Jesse shares how The Big Quiet began not as a business plan, but as an experiment rooted in intuition, meditation, and a willingness to follow what felt true. He also opens up about the harder chapter: realizing that after nine years, the cycle was complete — and facing the grief, identity shift, and uncertainty that came with letting it go.
Together, they talk about purpose, noise, community, the shame we attach to endings, and the courage it takes to ask not “what’s next?” but “what now?”
A conversation for anyone navigating the end of a business, role, relationship, or version of themselves.
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12 Mar 2026TRANSCRIPT
Ritual: Making the Invisible Moments 𝘚𝘢𝘤𝘳𝘦𝘥, with Megan Sheldon - Founder: Be Ceremonial
What makes a moment a ritual—and how can those rituals help us live, love, grieve, and remember more fully?
In this conversation with Megan Sheldon, cultural mythologist, lifecycle celebrant, and co-founder of the Be Ceremonial app, Tamatha and Chelsea explore the art of transforming ordinary acts into intentional, symbolic actions that carry deep meaning.
This episode is full of creative, deeply personal examples of ritual in action. Megan shares her four-part definition of ritual, the difference between ritual and ceremony, and why giving ourselves permission to experiment—and even “retroactively” honor moments we missed—can be life-changing.
Whether you’re welcoming a new baby, grieving a loss, or simply marking the quiet in-between moments of your own living, you’ll come away with ideas and invitations to make your own life’s milestones more intentional, personal, and alive.
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Inside a recent episode
Invisible Threads: The Season 3 Finale
Published 9 Apr 2026 · Transcript excerpt
[…] There's a cloud that every person came from and will return to. In fact, there are many, many clouds. Each cloud has its own essence. Those who are from that cloud are a piece of its essence. Those who you are in the most kindred connection with in this lifetime, when there's that feeling, we are made of the same stuff. Could be best friends, could be partners, could be random people you meet on an airplane. There is this knowing, deep knowing that we are made of the same stuff. Maybe it's we've been here before, but it's not like Chelsea and Court have been here together before. It's like the soul that landed in Chelsea's body and the soul that landed in Court's body in this lifetime, they know each other. […]
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