Hannah and Philippa chat about life, music and the downsides of an external monologue. Both musicians and activists, they reflect on our current times and what this means for creative people, overthinkers and humans in general.

Greater, Stronger, Wiser? Two Overthinking Musicians
Claim This Podcastby Hannah Pawson and Philippa Walusimbi
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Hannah and Philippa chat about life, music and the downsides of an external monologue. Both musicians and activists, they reflect on our current times and what this means for creative people, overthinkers and humans in general.
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August 11, 2020
It's Closing Time
<p>Thank you so much for listening over these weeks! Peace and love and strength to you all xxx</p> <p><br></p> <p>Follow Philippa:</p> <p>Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/philippazawe/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@philippazawe</a></p> <p>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/PhilippaZawe/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">facebook.com/PhilippaZawe</a></p> <p>Bandcamp: <a href="https://philippazawe.bandcamp.com/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">philippazawe.bandcamp.com</a></p> <p><br></p> <p>Follow Hannah:</p> <p>Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/rainydaywomanmusic/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@rainydaywomanmusic</a></p> <p>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/RainyDayWoman1" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">facebook/rainydaywoman1</a></p> <p>Bandcamp: <a href="https://rainydaywoman.bandcamp.com/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">rainydaywoman.bandcamp.com</a></p> <p><br></p> <p>Music is by Hannah Pawson </p>

July 31, 2020
Borders and boats in the night - Interview with Milly Pawson
<p>This week we chat to Hannah's sister Milly about Europe's treatment of refugees and how this intersects with racist policies.</p> <p>Just a note (because we missed an important edit) - at one point, Milly mentions that white people would not receive the same violent treatment from police as people of colour do in the States, on Europe's borders and in other places. To clarify, we are aware that of course white people can and do experience this kind of treatment, for example white BLM protesters in the States - however, this kind of violence does not occur on anywhere near the scale at which people of colour experience police brutality across many countries; her point was drawing awareness to the general trends, rather than the outliers.</p> <p><br></p> <p>Resources: </p> <p>Our petition to keep family reunion <a href="https://www.change.org/refugeechildrenreunion">here</a> </p> <p>Refugee council report <a href="https://www.refugeecouncil.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Safe_but_not_settled.pdf">here</a></p> <p>Aegean Boat Report <a href="//www.facebook.com/AegeanBoatReport">here</a></p> <p>UN Poverty Report<a href="//www.ohchr.org/documents/issues/poverty/eom_gb_16nov2018.pdf"> here </a></p> <p>The Good Immigrant book</p> <p>Follow the Congo Tree <a href="//www.facebook.com/TheCongoTree">here</a></p> <p>Watch the film 'Lion' – it’s great</p> <p>Safe Passage charity <a href="// www.safepassage.org.uk">here</a></p> <p>Hostile environment Policy <a href="//www.freemovement.org.uk/briefing-what-is-the-hostile-environment-where-does-it-come-from-who-does-it-affect/">here</a></p> <p><br></p> <p>Follow Milly: </p> <p>Twitter <a href="http://twitter.com/melissa_pawson">@melissa_pawson </a></p> <p>Website: <a href="http://melissapawson.com/">www.melissapawson.com</a> </p> <p>Follow Milly’s cat: Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/tunamajnouna/">@tunamajnouna</a></p> <p><br></p> <p>Follow Philippa:</p> <p>Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/philippazawe/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@philippazawe</a> </p> <p>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/PhilippaZawe/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">facebook.com/PhilippaZawe</a> </p> <p>Bandcamp: <a href="https://philippazawe.bandcamp.com/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">philippazawe.bandcamp.com</a></p> <p>Follow Hannah:</p> <p>Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/rainydaywomanmusic/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@rainydaywomanmusic</a> </p> <p>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/RainyDayWoman1" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">facebook/rainydaywoman1</a> </p> <p>Bandcamp: <a href="https://rainydaywoman.bandcamp.com/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">rainydaywoman.bandcamp.com</a></p> <p><br></p> <p>Music is by Philippa Zawe, Hannah Pawson and Gabriel Wynne.</p>

July 24, 2020
Listen, lament, LEGISLATE
<p>This episode was recorded in the week after George Floyd’s death, and the week that J.K Rowling published her letter. We had a lot to debrief on.</p> <p>We go on a #thoughttrain to chat about careering, trans rights, periods and sex.</p> <p><br></p> <p>Books -</p> <p>Invisible Women: Exploring Data Bias in a World Made For Men, Caroline Criado Perez</p> <p>Animal, Sara Pascoe</p> <p>Pill and Depression <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/03/pill-linked-depression-doctors-hormonal-contraceptives">https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/03/pill-linked-depression-doctors-hormonal-contraceptives</a> <a href="https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/2552796">https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/2552796</a></p> <p><br></p> <p>As always you can find us here:</p> <p>Follow Philippa:</p> <p>Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/philippazawe/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@philippazawe</a> Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/PhilippaZawe/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">facebook.com/PhilippaZawe</a> Bandcamp: <a href="https://philippazawe.bandcamp.com/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">philippazawe.bandcamp.com</a></p> <p>Follow Hannah:</p> <p>Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/rainydaywomanmusic/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@rainydaywomanmusic</a> Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/RainyDayWoman1" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">facebook/rainydaywoman1</a> Bandcamp: <a href="https://rainydaywoman.bandcamp.com/" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">rainydaywoman.bandcamp.com</a></p> <p>Music is by Philippa Zawe, Hannah Pawson and Gabriel Wynne.</p>
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