About Greater, Stronger, Wiser? Two Overthinking Musicians
Hannah and Philippa chat about life, music and the downsides of an external monologue. Both musicians and activists, they reflect on our current times and what this means for creative people, overthinkers and humans in general.
Thank you so much for listening over these weeks! Peace and love and strength to you all xxx
Follow Philippa:
Instagram @philippazawe (https://www.instagram.com/philippazawe/)
Facebook: facebook.com/PhilippaZawe (https://www.facebook.com/PhilippaZawe/)
Bandcamp: philippazawe.bandcamp.com (https://philippazawe.bandcamp.com/)
Follow Hannah:
Instagram @rainydaywomanmusic (https://www.instagram.com/rainydaywomanmusic/)
Facebook: facebook/rainydaywoman1 (https://www.facebook.com/RainyDayWoman1)
Bandcamp: rainydaywoman.bandcamp.com (https://rainydaywoman.bandcamp.com/)
Music is by Hannah Pawson
31 Jul 2020
Borders and boats in the night - Interview with Milly Pawson
This week we chat to Hannah's sister Milly about Europe's treatment of refugees and how this intersects with racist policies.
Just a note (because we missed an important edit) - at one point, Milly mentions that white people would not receive the same violent treatment from police as people of colour do in the States, on Europe's borders and in other places. To clarify, we are aware that of course white people can and do experience this kind of treatment, for example white BLM protesters in the States - however, this kind of violence does not occur on anywhere near the scale at which people of colour experience police brutality across many countries; her point was drawing awareness to the general trends, rather than the outliers.
Resources:
Our petition to keep family reunion here (https://www.change.org/refugeechildrenreunion)
Refugee council report here (https://www.refugeecouncil.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Safe_but_not_settled.pdf)
Aegean Boat Report here (//www.facebook.com/AegeanBoatReport)
UN Poverty Report here (//www.ohchr.org/documents/issues/poverty/eom_gb_16nov2018.pdf)
The Good Immigrant book
Follow the Congo Tree here (//www.facebook.com/TheCongoTree)
Watch the film 'Lion' – it’s great
Safe Passage charity here (// www.safepassage.org.uk)
Hostile environment Policy here (//www.freemovement.org.uk/briefing-what-is-the-hostile-environment-where-does-it-come-from-who-does-it-affect/)
Follow Milly:
Twitter @melissa_pawson (http://twitter.com/melissa_pawson)
Website: www.melissapawson.com (http://melissapawson.com/)
Follow Milly’s cat: Instagram @tunamajnouna (https://www.instagram.com/tunamajnouna/)
Follow Philippa:
Instagram @philippazawe (https://www.instagram.com/philippazawe/)
Facebook: facebook.com/PhilippaZawe (https://www.facebook.com/PhilippaZawe/)
Bandcamp: philippazawe.bandcamp.com (https://philippazawe.bandcamp.com/)
Follow Hannah:
Instagram @rainydaywomanmusic (https://www.instagram.com/rainydaywomanmusic/)
Facebook: facebook/rainydaywoman1 (https://www.facebook.com/RainyDayWoman1)
Bandcamp: rainydaywoman.bandcamp.com (https://rainydaywoman.bandcamp.com/)
Music is by Philippa Zawe, Hannah Pawson and Gabriel Wynne.
24 Jul 2020
Listen, lament, LEGISLATE
This episode was recorded in the week after George Floyd’s death, and the week that J.K Rowling published her letter. We had a lot to debrief on.
We go on a #thoughttrain to chat about careering, trans rights, periods and sex.
Books -
Invisible Women: Exploring Data Bias in a World Made For Men, Caroline Criado Perez
Animal, Sara Pascoe
Pill and Depression https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/03/pill-linked-depression-doctors-hormonal-contraceptives (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/03/pill-linked-depression-doctors-hormonal-contraceptives) https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/2552796 (https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/2552796)
As always you can find us here:
Follow Philippa:
Instagram @philippazawe (https://www.instagram.com/philippazawe/) Facebook: facebook.com/PhilippaZawe (https://www.facebook.com/PhilippaZawe/) Bandcamp: philippazawe.bandcamp.com (https://philippazawe.bandcamp.com/)
Follow Hannah:
Instagram @rainydaywomanmusic (https://www.instagram.com/rainydaywomanmusic/) Facebook: facebook/rainydaywoman1 (https://www.facebook.com/RainyDayWoman1) Bandcamp: rainydaywoman.bandcamp.com (https://rainydaywoman.bandcamp.com/)
Music is by Philippa Zawe, Hannah Pawson and Gabriel Wynne.
17 Jul 2020
BLM reflections
We recorded this episode on the week that George Floyd was murdered. It's interesting to look back on this week and how the shock of the event is reflected back in the rawness of our feelings and discussions.
Resources:
Compensation for former slave owners: link to Independent article here (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/britains-colonial-shame-slave-owners-given-huge-payouts-after-abolition-8508358.html) and Guardian article here (https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/jun/18/bank-of-england-apologises-for-role-of-former-directors-in-slave-trade)
Books:
1. Why I'm No Longer Talking to White People About Race
2. Brit(ish)
3. We Need To Talk About Race
4. The Good Immigrant
5. Black and British, A Forgotten History (the BBC series on this is also really great)
Podcasts:
1. About Race with Reni Eddo Lodge
2. Have you Heard George's Podcast?
3. Reality Daily - episode 55 (for Christian listeners)
Follow Philippa:
Instagram @philippazawe (https://www.instagram.com/philippazawe/) Facebook: facebook.com/PhilippaZawe (https://www.facebook.com/PhilippaZawe/) Bandcamp: philippazawe.bandcamp.com (https://philippazawe.bandcamp.com/)
Follow Hannah:
Instagram @rainydaywomanmusic (https://www.instagram.com/rainydaywomanmusic/) Facebook: facebook/rainydaywoman1 (https://www.facebook.com/RainyDayWoman1) Bandcamp: rainydaywoman.bandcamp.com (https://rainydaywoman.bandcamp.com/)
Music is by Philippa Zawe, Hannah Pawson and Gabriel Wynne.
10 Jul 2020
Empathy - #trainlife #queenlife
Chatting about empathy and reflecting on Alain de Botton and Ayishat Akanbi's Unscripted Talk. Found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZU7mumpY4U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZU7mumpY4U)
Sex Power Money (book) - Sara Pascoe
Counselling for Toads - Robert de Board
FYI we recorded each podcast about 6 weeks prior to the release date so chats on COVID are verrryyy out of date.
Follow Philippa:
Instagram @philippazawe (https://www.instagram.com/philippazawe/) Facebook: facebook.com/PhilippaZawe (https://www.facebook.com/PhilippaZawe/) Bandcamp: philippazawe.bandcamp.com (https://philippazawe.bandcamp.com/)
Follow Hannah:
Instagram @rainydaywomanmusic (https://www.instagram.com/rainydaywomanmusic/) Facebook: facebook/rainydaywoman1 (https://www.facebook.com/RainyDayWoman1) Bandcamp: rainydaywoman.bandcamp.com (https://rainydaywoman.bandcamp.com/)
Music is by Philippa Zawe, Hannah Pawson and Gabriel Wynne.
6 Jul 2020
Religion – Teaching an atheist about what we can learn from Christianity
In this episode we talk about religion. It was really interesting to have these chats between an atheist and a Christian, with similar experiences of religion but very different viewpoints. Let us know your thoughts!
Decolonising the bible: https://www.facebook.com/FreedomRoad.us/videos/599180010808094 (https://www.facebook.com/FreedomRoad.us/videos/599180010808094/)
FYI we recorded each podcast about 6 weeks prior to the release date so chats on COVID are verrryyy out of date.
Follow Philippa:
Instagram @philippazawe (https://www.instagram.com/philippazawe/) Facebook: facebook.com/PhilippaZawe (https://www.facebook.com/PhilippaZawe/) Bandcamp: philippazawe.bandcamp.com (https://philippazawe.bandcamp.com/)
Follow Hannah:
Instagram @rainydaywomanmusic (https://www.instagram.com/rainydaywomanmusic/) Facebook: facebook/rainydaywoman1 (https://www.facebook.com/RainyDayWoman1) Bandcamp: rainydaywoman.bandcamp.com (https://rainydaywoman.bandcamp.com/)
Music is by Philippa Zawe, Hannah Pawson and Gabriel Wynne.
26 Jun 2020
Introduction pt. 2
Tune in for music chats, emOtions and an unexpected update about golf (how did we even get there?)
FYI we recorded each podcast about 6 weeks prior to the release date so chats on COVID are verrryyy out of date.
Follow Philippa:
Instagram @philippazawe (https://www.instagram.com/philippazawe/) Facebook: facebook.com/PhilippaZawe (https://www.facebook.com/PhilippaZawe/) Bandcamp: philippazawe.bandcamp.com (https://philippazawe.bandcamp.com/)
Follow Hannah:
Instagram @rainydaywomanmusic (https://www.instagram.com/rainydaywomanmusic/) Facebook: facebook/rainydaywoman1 (https://www.facebook.com/RainyDayWoman1) Bandcamp: rainydaywoman.bandcamp.com (https://rainydaywoman.bandcamp.com/)
Music is by Philippa Zawe, Hannah Pawson and Gabriel Wynne.
17 Jun 2020
Introduction pt. 1
A podcast about music, life and overthinking STUFF.
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Follow Philippa:
Instagram @philippazawe (https://www.instagram.com/philippazawe/) Facebook: facebook.com/PhilippaZawe (https://www.facebook.com/PhilippaZawe/) Bandcamp: philippazawe.bandcamp.com (https://philippazawe.bandcamp.com/)
Follow Hannah:
Instagram @rainydaywomanmusic (https://www.instagram.com/rainydaywomanmusic/) Facebook: facebook/rainydaywoman1 (https://www.facebook.com/RainyDayWoman1) Bandcamp: rainydaywoman.bandcamp.com (https://rainydaywoman.bandcamp.com/)
Music is by Philippa Zawe, Hannah Pawson and Gabriel Wynne.
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