Life happens.
Life ends.
Life (somehow) goes on.
And this is where we find two unlikely friends.
He’s a Harley-loving contractor who doesn’t like people.
She’s an ordained pastor who walks people through hard stuff.
Brought together by grief, they talk about the space between life
and that other thing.
Welcome to the space we all occupy.
Whether we like it or not.
Gina shares her story of relentless loss, addiction, and shame, highlighting her journey towards redemption, forgiveness, and unconditional love.
5 Oct 2025
Episode #15: Forgiveness
This episode explores the multifaceted nature of forgiveness, examining personal experiences and its profound impact on individuals.
2 Sept 2025
Episode #14: Do you have a heart at war or a heart at peace?
Is a heart at peace possible? Of course. Just keep fighting for it.
2 May 2025
Episode #12: The Sainthood Effect
Don’t you just love how we speak of the dead? At funerals and memorials,
amazing stories of kindness, love and generosity are told. We all hope for
such remembrances.
But here’s something Jon has been kicking around as it pertains to the
serious business of grief.
18 Apr 2025
Episode #3: House of Grief
When the grief of losing his wife was new and raw, Jon was in survival mode, just trying to breathe.
Years later, he is beginning to understand just how complex the idea of moving forward is.
Whether you are new to grief or it’s been a companion of yours for too long, this is where the very name of this podcast comes in.
It takes grit.
It takes grace.
And it takes sitting next to, getting out from under and moving forward with that “side of grief.”
It makes sense that this contractor would liken it to building, renovating and remodeling a house. New spaces have grown, old ones have faded and on tough days they seem to appear again.
From drugs to the Holy Spirit and the idea of love deficits, this episode has it all (including some swears and a poem).
It’s the grit we’ve grown fond of and the grace that we rely on.
(40 minutes)
11 Apr 2025
Episode #2: Putting Words to Grief
After losing his wife, Jon has come to understand grief differently.
There are textbook definitions that give us some context but grief is such a personal experience…it often leaves us without words.
How does this sit with you? Grief is absence. Something (marriage, a job, a dream) or someone was there and now it or they are gone.
It leaves us wondering if anything can come of it. And our natural tendency is to try to outrun the pain. But Jon found something in the midst of it all.
(42 minutes)
Disclaimer: Jon swears. Sometimes.
5 Apr 2025
Episode #1: Unlikely Friends
This story starts with Krissy. It only exists because of her.
She died just a week before Jon and her would have celebrated their 16th wedding anniversary.
She was only 40 and mom to three young kids. The cancer moved quickly and within a year this silly tough girl from a city outside of Boston was gone.
She was grit and she was grace. And she was loved.
Heather and Krissy met at church. They became fast friends (Krissy had many). Her final request to Heather was asking her to stay close to Jon.
Eight years later. Here we are.
It starts with Krissy.
(4o minutes)
28 Mar 2025
Episode #11: Our First ‘Live’ Podcast
Jon and Heather were invited to record live in front of 50 people at New
England Chapel in Franklin. These are not laugh tracks. Its real, raw,
funny look at the inside of grief.
25 Feb 2025
Episode #10: The Tracks We Leave Behind
Footprints in the snow, on our way to the garage to record. What impact do
our feet have - in other words, how are you walking through this world and
what will you leave behind?
1 Nov 2024
Episode #9: A Friend at the Table
This podcast marks the first one we’ve had with a guest. It’s been 18 years
since Alex - a 13-year-old from Medway - died in an accident. His mother,
and our new friend, Ann shares her walk with grief including dreams,
friendships and how she has changed.
24 Sept 2024
Episode #8: Matters of the Heart (& Brain)
Matters of the Heart (& Brain). We know our hearts break but what happens
if the brain does?
1 Aug 2024
Episode #7 : The Tough Conversations
Tough conversations - like all hard things, they benefit you in the long
run.
21 Jun 2024
Episode #5: Clearing Space
There’s a part of you that wants to hold onto the past when something in
your life has ended.
29 May 2024
Episode #4: Grief During the Holidays
Grab a cup of (weasel) coffee and get comfy. Here’s a safe place to talk
about grief and the holidays (whether it’s Christmas, birthdays or
anniversaries) some days are harder than others.
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