by Emily Jusino, PhD (Classics) and Cam Hawkins, PhD (Ancient History)
A podcast exploring the Mediterranean world, ancient and modern, through the eyes of two former Classics professors. Join Emily and Cam as they chat about all things Ancient Greek and Roman and share their own adventures exploring the Mediterranean world through history, travel, literature, and film. We release new episodes on or about the 1st and 15th of every month. https://havetogawilltravel.com
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July 1, 2026
<p>Have you ever wondered what a bath-house architect from ancient Rome would think if he found himself swept through a time warp into a modern Japanese Spa? Wonder no more! Emily and Cam discuss Thermae Romae, a 2012 Japanese Film that seeks to explore precisely this question by dramatizing the adventures of one Lucius Modestus, an engineer who becomes Emperor Hadrian’s personal bath-house designer.</p><p></p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></u></li></ul><br/><p></p><p>Useful Links:</p><ul><li><u><a href="https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8ftx58" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Watch Thermae Romae (with English Subtitles) on Dailymotion</a></u></li><li><u><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81264354" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Watch the Thermae Romae Novae anime series on Netflix</a></u></li></ul><br/><p></p><p>Cover art adapted from Joseph Theodor Hansen, "Tepidarium at the Forum Baths in Pompeii"</p><p>----------</p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><p>01:56 - Thermae Romae: the basics</p><ul><li>02:28 - How to watch Thermae Romae</li><li>03:29 - A plot summary: Lucius Modestus travels through time, learns lots about Japanese bathing culture, and applies his knowledge to Roman bath-houses in the time of Hadrian</li><li>06:59 - The original Thermae Romae manga series</li><li>08:13 - The film’s success and the Thermae Romae Universe</li></ul><br/><p>10:17 - A Fish-out-of-Water Comedy</p><ul><li>10:24 - The basic premise and some of the movie’s quirks</li><li>13:35 - Modern Japanese and Ancient Roman bathing cultures, compared</li><li>19:16 - Lucius bumbles his way through modern Japan and discovers the marvels of Japanese bathing</li><li>26:05 - Poking fun of Japanese onsen culture (and a digression on the challenges of translation)</li></ul><br/><p>29:46 - Thermae Romae and Roman Culture</p><ul><li>29:56 - A quirky interpretation of real Roman history: the reign of Hadrian, the death of Antinous, and the question of succession (and deification!)</li><li>38:54 - Lucius’ (very Japanese) critique of Roman bathing culture</li><li>42:09 - Does Lucius’ critique hold water? Imperial bath-houses, neighborhood bath-houses, and bath-house sociability</li><li>47:04 - The old men from the onsen teach Lucius to care less about honor and more about community spirit</li><li>49:36 - Some final thoughts about the movie</li></ul><br/><p>51:25 - Wrap-up</p><ul><li>51:31 - What’s up next: the Odyssey—both Homer’s Odyssey, and Nolan’s Odyssey</li><li>52:26 - A plug for “The Return” (and for our episode about it!)</li></ul><br/>
June 15, 2026
<p>We’re dropping a quick note in our feed to remind you that we’re on vacation and won’t be releasing a full episode on June 15, but also to tease a couple of upcoming episodes—including a couple on Homer’s Odyssey and Christopher Nolan’s film of the same name!</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></li></ul><br/><p>Read the first in our series of blog posts on Hadrian’s Wall here:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/hiking-hadrians-wallpart-i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hiking Hadrian’s Wall, Part I</a></li></ul><br/><p><br></p><p>If you haven’t done so already, have a listen to our episode on The Return, a 2024 film adaptation of the Odyssey starring Ralph Fiennes and Juliette Binoche:</p><ul><li><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/homers-odyssey-on-film-the-return" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Homer’s Odyssey on Film: “The Return”</a></li></ul><br/>
June 1, 2026
<p>Emily and Cam wrap up their series on hiking Hadrian’s Wall Path with a discussion of the final 31 miles of the Wall. Follow along as they explore medieval monuments made of wallstone, find themselves treed by some cows, and are regaled with tales of cannibals (human and otherwise!).</p><p>Visit our homepage to subscribe, to find us on social media, and to contact us by email:</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://havetogawilltravel.com</a></u></li></ol><br/><p>Read the first post in our series of blog posts on Hadrian’s Wall here:</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/blog/hiking-hadrians-wallpart-i" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hiking Hadrian’s Wall, Part I</a></u></li></ol><br/><p><br></p><p>If you’re interested in hiking the Wall, you’ll find the following resources helpful:</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://www.cicerone.co.uk/hadrians-wall-path?srsltid=AfmBOooKaThgYe2HCCL1VjytbV5NQbDPJWfb8Nj3tAq-NF_Yl9KFU1De" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Walking Hadrian’s Wall Path, by Mark Richards (Cicerone Press)</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://thetrailsshop.co.uk/products/hadrians-wall-path?_pos=1&_sid=17da385f3&_ss=r" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hadrian’s Wall Path, by Anthony Burton (National Trails Official Guidebook)</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://www.harveymaps.co.uk/acatalog/Hadrian-s-Wall-Path-YHWRHA.html#SID=4" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Harvey Maps, Map of Hadrian’s Wall Path</a></u></li></ol><br/><p><br></p><p>Finally, you’ll find the rest of the episodes in this series at the following links:</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/hadrians-wall-part-i-the-romans-in-the-britain-and-the-imperial-frontier" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hadrian’s Wall, Part I: The Romans in Britain and the Imperial Frontier</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/hadrians-wall-part-ii-walking-from-wallsend-to-carrawburgh" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hadrian’s Wall, Part II: Walking from Wallsend to Carrawburgh</a></u></li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span><u><a href="https://havetogawilltravel.com/podcast/have-toga-will-travel/episode/hadrians-wall-part-iii-hiking-the-crags-sewingshields-to-birdoswald" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hadrian’s Wall, Part III: Hiking the Crags (Sewingshields to Birdoswald)</a></u></li></ol><br/><p><br></p><p>----------</p><p>00:11 - Introduction</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>00:24 - Episode overview</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>01:11 - Housekeeping and Summer vacation</li></ol><br/><p>02:41 - Birdoswald to Haytongate</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>03:16 - The character of the trail and the last visible elements of the Wall</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>05:44 - Honesty Boxes and the Haytongate Hut</li></ol><br/><p>06:56 - Lanercost Priory</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>07:22 - A priory built of wallstone: the history of Lanercost</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>10:52 - Exploring Lanercost (and our encounter with Max)</li></ol><br/><p>12:24 - Haytongate to Carlisle</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>12:46 - An unpleasant encounter with cows</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>14:37 - “Where’s the Wall,” or the perils of starting in the west</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>15:55 - Crosby on Eden, haggis, and black pudding</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>17:59 - The Wall at the River Eden: Uxelodunum and Milecastle 66</li></ol><br/><p>18:27 - Carlisle</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>18:56 - Carlisle Castle: Luguvalium becomes the old Norman keep</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>21:31 - Richard III, Mary Queen of Scots, and the Jacobites: Carlisle Castle’s long history</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>24:52 - Another encounter with Max</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>27:00 - Carlisle Cathedral (and more plundered wallstone)</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>28:47 - Carlisle’s Guildhall</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>30:06 - Misadventures in Carlisle dining</li></ol><br/><p>31:46 - Carlisle to Bowness on Solway</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>32:14 - Burgh by Sands: Aballava, Africans in Roman Britain, and Edward I’s unpleasant bout with dysentery</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>34:53 - The Tidal Flats: Dykesfield, Drumburgh, and the dangers of high tide!</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>37:45 - Bowness on Solway and a gathering at Fort Maia: Billy No-Mates and a man obsessed with cannibals!</li></ol><br/><p>43:02 - Logistics of the Hike</p><ol><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>43:07 - Where to begin? In the west at Bowness, or in the east at Newcastle?</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>45:38 - Resources for planning: books and maps</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>47:10 - Lodging, adventure companies, luggage, and the AD 122 bus</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>50:53 - Food: full English breakfasts and pub fare</li><li data-list="bullet"><span class="ql-ui" contenteditable="false"></span>53:16 - Tips for the trail: rain, sunburn, and blisters, oh my!</li></ol><br/><p>56:56 - Final Thoughts</p><p>58:02 - Wrap-up</p>
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A podcast exploring the Mediterranean world, ancient and modern, through the eyes of two former Classics professors. Join Emily and Cam as they chat about all things Ancient Greek and Roman and share their own adventures exploring the Mediterranean world through history, travel, literature, and film.
We release new episodes on or about the 1st and 15th of every month.
https://havetogawilltravel.com
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