Welcome to the Robinson Ralph podcast in which we discuss recent cases from the fascinating world of Employment Law. With an educational and entertaining spin for listeners along the way, this podcast is sure to leave you wanting more. If you wish to contact us then please email us at info@robinsonralph.com
In the latest episode of Having a NatteRR, Simon and David look at the case of Walker v McGill's Bus Services Ltd, in which an employee was dismissed for gross misconduct after refusing to undergo a “for cause” drug and alcohol test.
The employer had seen a Snapchat video showing the employee loading beers into a fridge at work, which the Tribunal accepted gave reasonable grounds to request an alcohol test. The problem? The employer also demanded a drug test, despite having no suspicion or justification for doing so – and its own policies treated drug and alcohol testing separately.
And in this week’s banter, we briefly explore two other matters of considerable importance: Simon's obsession with zombies 🧟 and David's obsession with Land Rovers.
Employment law and the important issues of the day. What more could you want?
16 Sept 2026
Series 12 Episode 6
In this episode, Simon and David look at Ben Wright v Extraction Solutions Limited.
Mr Wright worked as a duct fitter and service engineer for the Yorkshire-based business, which was co-owned and directed by his father.
He was dismissed following allegations of gross misconduct, including:
Inaccurate time recording – after travelling to Penrith for a job that turned out not to be needed, he stayed in the area to go shopping and have lunch, before claiming a full day’s wages at double time.
False mileage claims – including expenses for journeys the company alleged he hadn’t actually made.
He subsequently brought a claim for unfair dismissal.
Simon and David discuss what happened, what the Tribunal made of it, and the employment law lessons for employers dealing with misconduct – particularly when family relationships are thrown into the mix.
And, naturally, there’s the important issue of the week in Banter:
Is it weird to be in a book club?
Apparently this required discussion.
2 Sept 2026
Series 12 Episode 5
In this episode, Dave and Simon discuss Ms L Williams-St Louis v West Berkshire Council – a recent Employment Tribunal case involving racial harassment and victimisation.
Ms Williams-St Louis, a youth turnaround intervention worker, experienced serious racial abuse from two young people she was supporting.
But the case wasn’t simply about the abuse itself. The Tribunal looked closely at how her employer responded when she reported it.
As always, Dave talks us through what happened and Simon explains the judgment – and what employers can learn from it.
And because it wouldn’t be Having a NatteRR without going wildly off topic, there’s also discussion of:
🐟 Fish biting Simon’s legs on holiday in Greece🥊 Fish Thai boxing🦴 And the surprisingly important question: do fish have a rib cage?
Employment law and fish anatomy. All the essentials.
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