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He Said, Son Said

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by Matt Haverkamp

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<p><b>Sports are the backdrop. Life is the conversation.</b></p><p></p><p><i>He Said, Son Said</i> is a father and son exploring life through the language of sports.</p><p></p><p>Every week, Matt and Nash debate the biggest stories in sports, share their own experiences as father and son, and sit down with athletes, coaches, parents, and families whose journeys reveal something bigger than wins and losses.</p><p></p><p>Because the greatest lessons from sports aren't about championships.</p><p></p><p>They're about resilience.</p><p></p><p>Leadership.</p><p></p><p>Family.</p><p></p><p>Purpose.</p><p></p><p>And the relationships that last long after the final score.</p>

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Episode thumbnail for Episode 16 - The Gift of Stepping Back | Rex & Sadie Miller on Parenting, Coaching, and Trust

July 28, 2026

Episode 16 - The Gift of Stepping Back | Rex & Sadie Miller on Parenting, Coaching, and Trust

<p><b>When does helping become holding on too tightly?</b></p><p></p><p>In this episode of <i>He Said, Son Said</i>, Matt and Nash sit down with Rex and Sadie Miller for a conversation that begins with tennis but quickly becomes something much bigger.</p><p></p><p>Together, they explore what it means to parent, coach, and support someone you love without trying to control their journey. It's an honest discussion about trust, communication, learning from one another, and knowing when to step back so someone else can grow.</p><p>One line from Rex captures the heart of the conversation:</p><blockquote><p><i>"This is your kid's tennis journey, not yours."</i></p></blockquote><p>Whether you're raising an athlete, coaching a team, leading others, or simply navigating relationships with the people you care about, this episode is a reminder that sometimes the greatest act of support is giving someone the space to find their own path.</p><h3>In this episode:</h3><ul><li>Why youth sports are about more than competition</li><li>The evolving relationship between parents and their children</li><li>What coaches can learn from listening</li><li>Building trust instead of control</li><li>Lessons that extend far beyond the tennis court</li></ul><p></p><p><b>Sports are the backdrop. Life is the conversation.</b></p>

Episode thumbnail for Episode 15 - Building Confidence Through Coaching, Fatherhood & Legacy | Ashanti Robinson |

July 21, 2026

Episode 15 - Building Confidence Through Coaching, Fatherhood & Legacy | Ashanti Robinson |

<p><b>What does it really mean to build confidence?</b></p><p></p><p>In the premiere episode of <b>On Their Turf</b>, a new documentary-style series from <b>He Said, Son Said</b>, Matt and Nash step into the gym with coach and trainer <b>Ashanti Robinson</b>, expecting to talk about fitness. </p><p></p><p>Instead, they discover a powerful conversation about confidence, coaching, fatherhood, leadership, and the legacy we leave through the lives we influence.</p><p></p><p>Ashanti shares the lessons that have shaped him—as an athlete, a coach, a father, and a mentor—and explains why building confidence is about far more than physical strength. It's about helping people believe in themselves, overcoming doubt, and becoming the person they're capable of being.</p><p></p><p>Whether you're a parent, coach, athlete, leader, or someone looking to grow personally and professionally, this conversation offers practical wisdom and meaningful perspective on the power of influence, resilience, and purpose.</p><p></p><p>This episode also marks the launch of <b>On Their Turf</b>, a documentary-style series that takes conversations out of the studio and into the places where people have become who they are.</p><p></p><p>Because sometimes the most meaningful conversations don't happen behind a microphone.</p><p></p><p>They happen on someone's turf.</p><p></p><p><b>Topics Covered:</b></p><ul><li>Building confidence</li><li>Coaching and leadership</li><li>Fatherhood</li><li>Mentorship</li><li>Personal growth</li><li>Mental resilience</li><li>Youth sports</li><li>Developing confidence in others</li><li>Creating lasting impact</li><li>Legacy</li></ul><p></p><p><b>Sports are the backdrop. Life is the conversation.</b></p>

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July 13, 2026

Episode 14 - Before the Next Chapter: How We're Evolving

<p>When we started <b>He Said, Son Said</b>, we thought we were creating a sports podcast.</p><p></p><p>Fourteen episodes later, we've realized it's become something much bigger.</p><p></p><p>In this special episode, we take you behind the scenes to share what we've learned, reflect on the conversations that have shaped us, and explain why the show is evolving.</p><p></p><p>Along the way, we talk about our favorite guests, what goes into producing each episode, and how one interview changed our perspective forever. That realization inspired the next chapter of <b>He Said, Son Said</b>—one focused even more on the stories, relationships, and life lessons that sports make possible.</p><p></p><p>You'll also get a first look at what's ahead with <b>On Their Turf</b>, <b>Pull Up a Chair</b>, and <b>Riding Shotgun</b>, along with a preview of upcoming conversations with Ashanti Johnson, Rex &amp; Sadie Miller, Marisa &amp; Timothy Ridgeway, and the Robinson family.</p><p></p><p>Whether you've been with us since Episode 1 or you're joining us for the first time, thank you for being part of this journey.</p><p></p><p>Because we thought we were building a sports podcast.</p><p></p><p>Turns out, we were building something much bigger.</p><p></p><p><b>Sports are the backdrop. Life is the conversation.</b></p>

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What is He Said, Son Said?
<p><b>Sports are the backdrop. Life is the conversation.</b></p><p></p><p><i>He Said, Son Said</i> is a father and son exploring life through the language of sports.</p><p></p><p>Every week, Matt and Nash debate the biggest stories in sports, share their own experiences as father and son, and sit down with athletes, coaches, parents, and families whose journeys reveal something bigger than wins and losses.</p><p></p><p>Because the greatest lessons from sports aren't about championships.</p><p></p><p>They're about resilience.</p><p></p><p>Leadership.</p><p></p><p>Family.</p><p></p><p>Purpose.</p><p></p><p>And the relationships that last long after the final score.</p>
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