9 Apr 2026
EP24 - Actionable Solutions: Reframing Responsibility in Pet-to-Threat ™
I’ve been thinking a lot about the response to last week’s episode, because the number of messages that came in really said something. So many of you said the same thing. “I didn’t know it had a name… but this is exactly what I’ve experienced.”
In this episode, I wanted to go deeper. Not just naming the pet-to-threat phenomenon, but actually exploring what you can do when you find yourself in it. This is a more practical, honest conversation about navigating systems that shift from supporting you to undermining you, and how to protect your identity, your wellbeing, and your career.
What You’ll Discover
- It’s Not Imposter Syndrome: Pet-to-threat is a systemic pattern done to you, not an internal lack of confidence, and that distinction changes everything.
- Protect Your Identity and Power: Building a reputation beyond your organisation creates resilience and gives you real options.
- Know When It’s Time to Leave: Sometimes the system won’t change, and recognising that early can protect your health, your performance, and your sense of self.
What really stayed with me while putting this together is how many people are quietly navigating this without language for it. And once you name it, something shifts. You stop internalising it. You start seeing the system more clearly. And from there, you can make more intentional decisions about how you show up and where you choose to stay.
This episode isn’t just for those experiencing it, it’s also for leaders. Because if we’re honest, these patterns don’t sustain themselves by accident. They’re shaped, reinforced, and sometimes ignored at the top. And that means they can also be changed.
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Episode Resources
Women of Color at Midcareer: Going from Pet to Threat (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/376421576_Women_of_Color_at_Midcareer_Going_from_Pet_to_Threat)™. Psychological Health of Women of Color: Intersections, Challenges, and Opportunities, p 275.” "Thomas, K. M., Johnson-Bailey, J., Phelps, R. E., Tran, N. M., & Johnson, L. N. (2013). (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/376421576_Women_of_Color_at_Midcareer_Going_from_Pet_to_Threat)
The Persistence Of Pet To Threat (https://www.forbes.com/sites/keciathomas/2024/01/13/the-persistence-of-pet-to-threat/)™ By Kecia M. Thomas. (https://www.forbes.com/sites/keciathomas/2024/01/13/the-persistence-of-pet-to-threat/)
The Infuriating Journey From Pet To Threat (https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbeseq/2021/06/29/the-infuriating-journey-from-pet-to-threat-how-bias-undermines-black-women-at-work/)™: How Bias Undermines Black Women At Work. (https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbeseq/2021/06/29/the-infuriating-journey-from-pet-to-threat-how-bias-undermines-black-women-at-work/)
Uche Blackstock - Legacy: A Black Physician Reckons with Racism in Medicine. (https://ucheblackstock.com/book/)
Advancing Health Equity. (https://advancinghealthequity.com/)
Why Black doctors like me are leaving faculty positions in academic medical centers. (https://www.statnews.com/2020/01/16/black-doctors-leaving-faculty-positions-academic-medical-centers/)
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