A few years ago, Dale Lykins found himself unable to speak — a big problem for someone who spoke for a living. Through a life-altering experience in voice therapy, Dale uncovered deeper truths about his life, found the courage to leave his 30-year career, and rediscovered his voice. Hear it from Dale and his guests on Hear It From Me.
What happens when the faith you built your life around no longer fits?
For Jeremy Jernigan, that question wasn't theoretical. After two decades in full-time church ministry, including serving as a lead pastor, Jeremy stepped away from the church world he had known for most of his adult life.
But leaving opened up new questions about certainty, doubt, Scripture, power, the church, and what it means when you are no longer sure you can believe everything you once believed.
In this episode of Hear It From Me, Jeremy and I talk about what happens when you find yourself at “the edge of the inside.”
From the edge, we may be able to see things differently. We may be able to ask questions we couldn't ask before.
Jeremy Jernigan spent two decades in full-time church ministry before stepping away from his role as a Lead Pastor. He is the author of The Edge of the Inside and host of the podcast Cabernet and Pray. Jeremy also speaks, teaches as an adjunct professor, and creates experiences through Communion Wine Co.
www.Jeremyjernigan.com (https://www.jeremyjernigan.com)
3 Sept 2026
Flamy Grant
Flamy Grant, musician, songwriter, drag artist, storyteller, and “shame-slaying, hip-swaying, singing-songwriting drag queen.”
This is a conversation about what happens when we begin unlearning the shame we’ve been given and discovering who we are underneath it.
https://www.flamygrant.com/
8 Dec 2025
Pádraig Ó Tuama
Poet and theologian, Pádraig Ó Tuama’s work centers around themes of language, power, conflict and religion. Working fluently on the page and in public, he is a compelling poet and skilled speaker, teacher and group worker. He presents Poetry Unbound with On Being Studios (https://onbeing.org/series/poetry-unbound/). From 2014-2019 he was the leader of the Corrymeela Community (https://www.corrymeela.org/), Ireland’s oldest peace and reconciliation community. With undergraduate and postgraduate degrees in theology, multiple professional qualifications in conflict mediation (specializing in groups), he also holds a PhD (Poetry & Theology) from the University of Glasgow. For the Autumn terms of 2024-28, he is a visiting scholar at the center for Cooperation and Conflict Resolution at Columbia University. (https://icccr.tc.columbia.edu/practice/poetry--conflict-outreach-project/)
When BBC journalist William Crawley introduced Pádraig on the stage to deliver a TEDx (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJfBYz6tab8) talk on Story, Crawley said, "He's probably the best public speaker I know." Profiling Ó Tuama in The New Yorker (https://www.newyorker.com/news/on-religion/padraig-o-tuamas-poetic-spirituality), journalist and poet Eliza Grizwold wrote “Poetry, for him, is the language the heart speaks not when it reaches for some externalized divinity but when it seeks to understand itself.”
https://www.padraigotuama.com/press (https://www.padraigotuama.com/press)
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