Learn how to do relationships better! Mike and Kristen Jones have been married for more than 30 years and in this podcast they explore relationship topics and share stories and lessons they have learned along the way. Kristen is a certified Relationship Coach and Mike is a non-denominational Pastor. Together and separately they have coached and counseled dating, pre-marital and married couples for nearly three decades.
Heart and Soulution
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Learn how to do relationships better! Mike and Kristen Jones have been married for more than 30 years and in this podcast they explore relationship topics and share stories and lessons they have learned along the way. Kristen is a certified Relationship Coach and Mike is a non-denominational Pastor. Together and separately they have coached and counseled dating, pre-marital and married couples for nearly three decades.
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May 27, 2026
Faithfully: Questions and Answers
<p>In this episode of <strong>Heart and Soulution</strong>, hosts Mike and Kristen Jones conclude the second season by reflecting on their own relationship through a series of personal questions. They discuss the vital role of <strong>humor</strong> in marriage, noting how it serves as a tool for <strong>deescalating conflict</strong> despite occasional lapses in timing. The couple shares memories of their early dating experiences to emphasize that <strong>mutual friendship</strong> and active pursuit are the keys to maintaining a "spark" after the honeymoon phase. They also explore the concept of <strong>love as a daily choice</strong> rather than a fleeting feeling, critiquing modern dating shows for ignoring "red flags" in favor of superficial attraction. Finally, the hosts describe their <strong>daily rhythms and holiday traditions</strong> as essential methods for building a "bank" of positive memories to rely on during difficult times. </p><p><strong>© 2025 All Music by Mike and Kristen Jones for use by Heart and Soulution</strong>, including "Heart and Soulution theme", "Card of the day", "Get to Know You Theme", "If We're Asking Other People Theme" and all background music; written and created by Mike Jones; produced and mastered with Suno.com.</p><p> </p><p><strong>Reference material and Resources to dive deeper:</strong></p><ul><li>Song reference (title and content): "<a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/0l5TpsCL1ObiTEsHeWA0by?si=9636f1deffc44fda" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Faithfully</a>" by Journey (1983).</li><li>Song reference: "<a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/5E8yddtSG3sH4hw2SfwcgW?si=480e294e19f04e62" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Can you Feel The Love Tonight</a>" by Elton John (1994).</li></ul><p> </p><p><strong>Connect with Heart and Soulution:</strong></p><ul><li>Follow on Instagram: Join the conversation <a href="https://www.instagram.com/heartandsoulution/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@heartandsoulution.</a></li></ul>
May 20, 2026
Because of You: Navigating Relationships with Emotionally Immature Parents (Part 2)
<p>In this episode, Mike and Kristen Jones discuss the psychological impact of <strong>emotionally immature parents</strong>. Drawing from Lindsay Gibson's research, the hosts explore how such parents often exhibit <strong>child-like behaviors</strong>, including a lack of empathy, extreme defensiveness, and the use of <strong>guilt or silence</strong> to control their children. These dynamics frequently lead to <strong>emotional isolation</strong> and a persistent sense of loneliness for the adult child, who may inadvertently seek out similarly unhealthy relationships. The conversation emphasizes the importance of <strong>self-awareness</strong> and the necessity of establishing <strong>firm boundaries</strong> to break generational cycles of dysfunction. Ultimately, Mike and Kristen encourage listeners to shift their expectations, acknowledging that while they cannot change an immature parent, they can find <strong>healing and security</strong> through personal growth and spiritual faith. </p><p> </p><p><strong>© 2025 All Music by Mike and Kristen Jones for use by Heart and Soulution</strong>, including "Heart and Soulution theme", "Card of the day", "Get to Know You Theme", "If We're Asking Other People Theme" and all background music; written and created by Mike Jones; produced and mastered with Suno.com.</p><p> </p><p><strong>Reference material and Resources to dive deeper:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/what-the-wild-things-are/202504/emotionally-immature-is-not-a-diagnosis" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">"Emotionally Immature" Is Not A Diagnosis</a>, by Rachel Haack, MA, MFTI, "Psychology Today" (April 18, 2025).</li></ul><ul><li>Gibson, Lindsay C., PsyD (2016), <a href="https://a.co/d/09x7RESi" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents:How to Heal From Distant, Rejecting, or Self-Involve…</a>, New Harbinger Publications.</li></ul><ul><li><strong>Song reference (title):</strong> <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/5Ohxk2dO5COHF1krpoPigN?si=afee2680930244a8" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">"Sign of the Times"</a> by Harry Styles (2017).</li></ul><ul><li>Scazzero, Pete and Gerri. (2023), <a href="https://a.co/d/03iO8R4X" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Emotionally Healthy Relationships: Discipleship That Deeply Changes Your Relationship With Others</a>. HarperChristian Resources.</li></ul><ul><li><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/oct/13/emotionally-immature-parent-experience-echoes-into-adulthood-therapy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Growing up, Bianca could never predict her father’s moods: the disorientation of an emotionally imm…</a>, by Carly Dober, "The Guardian" (October, 2025).</li></ul><p> </p><p><strong>Connect with Heart and Soulution:</strong></p><ul><li>Follow on Instagram: Join the conversation <a href="https://www.instagram.com/heartandsoulution/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@heartandsoulution.</a></li></ul>
May 13, 2026
Sign of the Times: Navigating Relationships with Emotionally Immature Parents (Part 1)
<p>In this episode of <strong>Heart and Soulution</strong>, Mike and Kristen Jones discuss the psychological concept of <strong>emotionally immature parents</strong> and the polarizing reception of Lindsay Gibson’s popular book on the topic. They explore a <strong>Psychology Today</strong> article that criticizes the book for potentially encouraging layman diagnoses and shutting down family dialogue, contrasting it with a <strong>Guardian</strong> piece that validates the painful, unpredictable experiences of adult children. The hosts emphasize that while the book may not be a strictly scientific clinical tool, it serves as a valuable resource for <strong>self-awareness and setting healthy boundaries</strong>. They define <strong>emotional maturity</strong> as the ability to remain objective, take responsibility for one’s feelings, and maintain deep connections without exploiting others. Ultimately, the discussion encourages listeners to use these insights to break <strong>generational cycles of dysfunction</strong> and foster more honest, differentiated relationships. </p><p> </p><p><strong>© 2025 All Music by Mike and Kristen Jones for use by Heart and Soulution</strong>, including "Heart and Soulution theme", "Card of the day", "Get to Know You Theme", "If We're Asking Other People Theme" and all background music; written and created by Mike Jones; produced and mastered with Suno.com.</p><p> </p><p><strong>Reference material and Resources to dive deeper:</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/what-the-wild-things-are/202504/emotionally-immature-is-not-a-diagnosis" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">"Emotionally Immature" Is Not A Diagnosis</a>, by Rachel Haack, MA, MFTI, "Psychology Today" (April 18, 2025).</li></ul><ul><li>Gibson, Lindsay C., PsyD (2016), <a href="https://a.co/d/09x7RESi" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents:How to Heal From Distant, Rejecting, or Self-Involved Parents</a>, New Harbinger Publications.</li></ul><ul><li><strong>Song reference (title):</strong> <a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/5Ohxk2dO5COHF1krpoPigN?si=afee2680930244a8" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">"Sign of the Times"</a> by Harry Styles (2017).</li></ul><ul><li>Scazzero, Pete and Gerri. (2023), <a href="https://a.co/d/03iO8R4X" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Emotionally Healthy Relationships: Discipleship That Deeply Changes Your Relationship With Others</a>. HarperChristian Resources.</li></ul><ul><li><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/oct/13/emotionally-immature-parent-experience-echoes-into-adulthood-therapy" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">Growing up, Bianca could never predict her father’s moods: the disorientation of an emotionally immature parent echoed into her adulthood</a>, by Carly Dober, "The Guardian" (October, 2025).</li></ul><p> </p><p><strong>Connect with Heart and Soulution:</strong></p><ul><li>Follow on Instagram: Join the conversation <a href="https://www.instagram.com/heartandsoulution/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@heartandsoulution.</a></li></ul>
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