Heart of the Brand is where leading HR and talent leaders share the tactical frameworks they use to build exceptional cultures and high-performing teams. VPs of People and Chief People Officers unpack proven playbooks for scaling culture, compensation design, and people operations - delivering actionable insights that sophisticated practitioners can immediately implement.
Heart of the Brand
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Heart of the Brand is where leading HR and talent leaders share the tactical frameworks they use to build exceptional cultures and high-performing teams. VPs of People and Chief People Officers unpack proven playbooks for scaling culture, compensation design, and people operations - delivering actionable insights that sophisticated practitioners can immediately implement.
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May 6, 2026
150 Engineers. 2 Months. The Hiring Sprint That Built PeopleWise.
Thomas Kohler, founder and CEO of pplwise, turned a moment of professional crisis into a data-driven recruiting business that now runs 45 specialized recruiters, generates €5M in revenue with €900K EBITDA, and is targeting €100M in the next 15 years. At 25, he was fired from a startup where he'd helped grow the talent function from 5 to 150 people — and within months, that same founder called him back to hire 150 engineers in two months to build a payment infrastructure that would unlock €50 million in revenue. That moment revealed how structurally broken most companies are with data. Thomas built pplwise around fixing that — and the result is a proprietary intelligence methodology that gathers 100-200 interview data points per week, benchmarks hiring funnels across companies, and tells clients not just what isn't working, but exactly why. Topics Discussed pplwise business model: renting specialized recruiters by function, region, language, and industry expertise Primary focus: Germany and DACH region, with international expansion for German-speaking go-to-market hires and US companies entering Germany pplwise Intelligence: 100-200 interview data points gathered weekly, funnel benchmarks by role and region, anonymized reports ISO 27001 compliance and three-layer data permission process (company agreement, candidate opt-in, access rights management) Red flag #1: Complex take-home case studies — comfortable for the hiring team but systematically filters out passive, employed top candidates Red flag #2: Unclear role requirements — can extend time-to-source from 3 weeks to 12 weeks or more Red flag #3: Post-raise unrealistic expectations — 700 candidate funnels for one hire, five-day in-office mandates with no brand equity to back them up TA funnel benchmarks: 12-15 TA screens per hire is healthy; 25-35 if take-home case study exists Three phases of time-to-hire: time to fill, time to source, time in stage — and why conflating them leads to wrong fixes Three biggest post-fundraise hiring mistakes: wrong role diagnosis, unrealistic expectations, no pre-built TA infrastructure The founding story: fired at 25, freelance recruiter, first client Tier Mobility (pre-Series D), then 150 engineers in 2 months → €25-30K/month personal transformation Four years in, 40 employees, €3.8M last year → growing, and why focus on German-speaking sales hires drove fastest growth 2026 goals: maintain €900K EBITDA on higher revenue; establish NPS baseline and push above 50 Thomas's 3 hiring traits: framework/data-driven, collaborative-oriented, freedom + ownership Annual 2-3 month "sabbatical" working one day per week — an organizational resilience test, not just personal recharge 2026 personal goal: let the organization own finance decisions and service development without Thomas's involvement Self-knowledge insight: pre-founding psychology session revealed competitive drive — consciously channeled to sport, not business
March 3, 2026
Silo Behavior Won't Survive Here: HomeToGo's Cultural Non-Negotiable
When HomeToGo finalized its acquisition of Interhome, the company didn't just double its headcount from 750 to 1,500 overnight — it inherited a workforce carved out of a large corporate parent, operating across multiple countries with fragmented HR systems, no unified performance framework, and deeply ingrained expectations around structure that HomeToGo itself was still building. Stephanie Frenzel stepped into the CPO role in the middle of this integration, and her challenge became one of the most complex people problems a scaling company faces: how do you build a cohesive group culture across brands that need to retain their own identity, while simultaneously establishing the shared infrastructure — leadership principles, performance processes, one HRIS — that makes a group actually function as one? Her approach, balancing standardization where it matters with deliberate restraint where it doesn't, offers a playbook for any people leader navigating post-acquisition complexity at scale. Topics Discussed Managing the people workstream of a major acquisition from day one in role Designing a group-level cultural integration roadmap across subsidiaries of vastly different sizes and maturity Determining which HR processes to standardize across a group versus which to leave locally autonomous Implementing quarterly all-hands communications to maintain alignment across a distributed, multi-brand organization Building performance management frameworks from scratch for entities that have never had them Consolidating fragmented, country-by-country HR systems into a single group HRIS Hiring for seniority and external experience as a company scales past the point where internal development alone can fill leadership gaps Defining and protecting cultural non-negotiables (cross-functional ownership, enabling each other to succeed) during rapid organizational change
October 30, 2025
Why Static Culture Kills Startup Growth
In this episode of Heart of The Brand, host Roman Kirsch interviews Oana Breen, Director of People Operations and Culture at Interactive Strength. Interactive Strength scaled from 15 to 100 employees in four years while navigating the unique challenge of building culture across two distinct workforces: corporate teams and customer-facing personal trainers. Oana's approach centers on a counterintuitive insight: culture must evolve with every new hire, not remain static. With a master's degree in organizational culture and leadership, she brings a rare academic foundation to startup people operations, focusing on intentional culture evolution rather than rigid culture preservation. Her framework uses customer feedback as a direct input for talent decisions, creating a measurable connection between hiring choices and business outcomes that most people leaders overlook. Topics Discussed Building intentional culture evolution frameworks that allow strategic change while maintaining core values during hypergrowth Scaling people operations from 15 to 100 employees while managing two distinct talent pools with different success metrics Using customer feedback data as primary input for talent acquisition and performance evaluation in service-based businesses Evaluating mid-market HR technology solutions and calculating ROI on people operations tools for 100-person companies Managing cultural integration when hiring internationally versus building globally distributed teams for US-based operations Implementing listening frameworks that uncover organizational needs across departments, verticals, and individual growth trajectories Balancing AI automation in recruiting while preserving human judgment for culture fit and customer-facing roles Designing talent acquisition processes that serve diverse customer bases without creating discriminatory hiring practices
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