Hosts Steve and Warrick explore the intricate motivations of young individuals, examining intrinsic and extrinsic factors to highlight the significance of purpose and meaningful contributions in life.
25 Jun 2025
Episode 16 - Navigating the Car Ride Home
Steve Hart and Dr. Warwick Wood examine the challenging car ride home for parents and children, focusing on emotional connection and open communication, offering practical tips for parents to be present and supportive in this interview episode.
17 Jun 2025
Episode 15 - Driven by Evolution
Dan Vann from Evolution Performance shares his experiences thriving under pressure, leaning into discomfort, and using reframing techniques for stress relief in an interview.
10 Jun 2025
Episode 14: Soul Meets Sound
Ezra Neal discusses the importance of goals, culture, and masculinity, offering listeners inspiration to reassess their world views and seek daily growth in this interview.
4 Jun 2025
Episode 13 - Identity, Trust, & Whānau (Part Two)
Janelle explores the evolving landscape of masculinity, reflecting on generational shifts in gender roles and emphasizing cultural values in raising emotionally intelligent future fathers in this interview.
Principals Nic Hill and Steve Hart discuss the evolving challenges in boys' education, such as identity and belonging, with host Katie Stanton in an interview.
20 May 2025
Episode 11 - Identity, Trust, & Whānau.
In this enlightening episode, we are joined by the remarkable Janelle Riki-Waaka, a passionate advocate for Te Tiriti o Waitangi education and a self-confessed “Mumma Bear.” Janelle brings her wealth of experience in cultural advisory and education to the table, sharing her insights on navigating the often tumultuous teenage years.
Join us as we explore the critical themes of identity and relationship-building during adolescence. Janelle emphasizes the importance of creating strong, trusting connections with our youth, which is essential for their emotional and social development. We discuss how everything in life moves at the speed of trust and how fostering an environment of openness and support can lead to healthier, happier teenagers.
One of the key topics we delve into is the need for greater community engagement in our schools, particularly for those families who may have been affected by past traumas within the education system. Janelle shares her vision for a more inclusive and empathetic approach to education—one that honors the diverse backgrounds of our students and actively involves their communities.
We also touch on the importance of gratitude in our lives, both personally and within our educational systems. Janelle expresses her hope for our politicians to take a stand on the global stage, showcasing the advancements in education, health outcomes, and economic opportunities for our first people.
Tune in for a thought-provoking conversation that inspires us all to reflect on our roles in supporting our youth and enriching our communities through education. Whether you’re a parent, educator, or simply passionate about cultural advocacy, this episode is packed with valuable insights!
14 May 2025
Episode 10 - Embracing Pasifika Identity
In this enlightening episode, we welcome back Johnny Leo'o, a passionate advocate for Pasifika culture and identity. Join us as we delve into the profound impact that understanding and embracing one's cultural background can have on fostering a sense of identity and belonging.
Join us as we delve into the intricacies of how understanding and embracing Pasifika heritage can empower individuals to authentically express themselves in their everyday lives.
This episode is particularly special as it coincides with the inaugural Pacific Language Weeks for 2025, kicking off with Rotuman Language Week.
Throughout our conversation, we explore the intricate connection between language and identity, shedding light on how the languages we speak not only reflect our heritage but also strengthen our ties to community.
We explore the role of culture and identity not only in personal life but also within educational institutions and workplaces, shedding light on how inclusivity can lead to a more cohesive and understanding environment.
We discuss practical strategies that can be adopted to foster a more inclusive environment that honours and celebrates cultural diversity.
Johnny's heartfelt perspective serves as a call to action for listeners to embrace and advocate for their own identities while fostering a sense of belonging for others.
Tune in to the full episode for a heartwarming and thought-provoking discussion
6 May 2025
Episode 9 - Masculinity, Courage & Belonging
In this insightful episode, host Katie Stanton sits down with seasoned educators Headmaster Nic Hill and Principal Steve Hart to explore the challenges facing boys' education today. With a collective 47 years of experience in boys’ education, Nic and Steve offer invaluable insights into the evolving dynamics of masculinity, identity, and belonging for young men.
They discuss how relationships serve as the cornerstone of effective education—especially in helping boys navigate their unique identities. Throughout the episode, the conversation delves into the notion of masculinity and how societal perceptions have shifted over the years. Nic and Steve also share their observations on when boys tend to flourish.
A key theme is the central role of relationships in boys' education. Nic and Steve advocate for a supportive school culture where educators are dedicated to championing their students; essential for fostering growth and confidence.
Join us for this episode as we aim to reframe the narrative around boys’ education, equipping listeners with the knowledge and tools to champion young men in their growth journeys.
29 Apr 2025
Episode 8 - Scrum Down Stories (Part 2)
Join us to hear the second part of the Hammer and Steve chat as they discuss the wrapping up of Hammer’s playing career and his transition into coaching.
Hammer discusses various influential figures in his life both when he was playing and when he was learning his craft with coaching.
22 Apr 2025
Episode 7 - Scrum Down Stories
In our latest episode Mark Hammett or more affectionately known as Hammer, joins us to discuss his playing career and what different jerseys meant to him.
If you think it’s just about rugby then think again as Mark opens up about some challenges he faced when out in public after particularly tough games.
This episode is full of stories and throwbacks to playing days as well as reflections on getting some professional support when it’s needed.
15 Apr 2025
Episode 6 - School Sport, Connection and Character
He’s back!
Hamish Barclay is back in the hot seat discussing all things sport with Steve Hart in this latest episode. With his younger self a ‘win at all costs’ type of character Hamish now reflects on how difficult situations that arise within a sporting context can actually help our young people to develop resilience and consequently their self esteem.
Tune in and listen as they discuss the character that develops through school sport and the power of sport in providing opportunities for young people.
This is a great episode that is full of rich discussion.
9 Apr 2025
Episode 5: Fear of Failure
This week we are joined by the incredibly articulate and charismatic Dr Warrick Wood as we delve into what it means for something to be socially expensive, how we can support our young people during times of inevitable disappointment and the all important topic of having ‘tough conversations’.
This is a fantastic episode and the beginning of a mini-series that Warrick will join us for over the next few months.
Listen in and hear about:
-How co-curricular gives young people incredible opportunity to be themselves
-How to support young people when they face disappointment and how we express our unconditional love towards them
-Why failure earlier on in life is beneficial for later life
-Why we shy away from difficult conversations
-The magic dust Warrick would sprinkle on people for successful, fulfilling lives
This promises to be a great episode and we can’t wait to share it with you.
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1 Apr 2025
Episode 4 - Family, Faith, & Footy
Join us for another great episode as this week we host the inimitable Matafeo Johnny Leo’o.
Colleague, friend, rugby player, coach, husband, dad, teacher and leader within the pasifika community we delve into Johnny’s playing years and the courage it takes to change careers. From Canterbury teams, Crusaders and time with Racing 92 over in France we hear about Johnny’s values, beliefs and what motivated him at different times throughout his career. Johnny opens up about mentors and key people in his life such as his dad, Steve Hansen, Richie McCaw and Fiso John Fiso.
With his mantra of ‘just turn up’ coupled with some decent ball skills he explains how over and over again throughout his life timing has been everything. From driving himself around Paris hospitals at 3am to running beside cars as his training schedule, he entertains us with snippets of his professional life. He’s a great story teller and we can’t wait to share this episode with you.
25 Mar 2025
Episode 3 - Culture, Code and Leadership
Join self confessed “League die-hard” Andrew Auimatagi and Steve Hart as they discuss mentoring, developing culture within teams, key aspects of leadership and the co-existence of Rugby League and Rugby Union in schools.
Listen in to discover
-Their thoughts on whether League and Union should be mutually exclusive
-How culture contributes to success
-Why self belief is so important
18 Mar 2025
Episode 2: Collaboration, Competition, Success
In this episode, we dive deep into:
How collaboration and competition drive better outcomes.
Redefining success—what does it really look and feel like?
The importance of creating environments that foster connection and relationships.
Why schools must prioritize time for students to build meaningful connections and develop the skills to thrive beyond the classroom.
The power of shared practices and the courage to reflect critically on what we do as educators.
💡 " The value of a handshake, the importance of connection, and the courage to ask ‘why’—these are the keys to driving success."
Join us as we explore the critical role of collaboration, the value of connection, and how we, as educators, can ensure our students are equipped for the future.
📢 We’d love to connect with you, share ideas, and learn from one another. Reach out and let’s collaborate!
11 Mar 2025
Episode 1 - The Power of a Champion
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Hearts & Minds Episode 1-The Power of a Champion.
In this episode of Hearts and Minds, hosts Steve Hart and Hamish Barclay delve into the critical role of champions in education. They discuss why every student needs someone to advocate for them, emphasizing the importance of building strong relationships within schools. In a world where media often portrays a negative image of educational institutions, Steve and Hamish remind us that schools are fundamentally human organizations rooted in relational equity. Join them as they explore how fostering meaningful connections can empower students and lead to better outcomes.
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