Anita Wing Lee has spent a decade as content creator -- blogging, filming, snapping, live streaming, editing and publishing her way around the world. Since the age of 21, she's told stories from dozens of countries, confronted inequality and injustice, shared her spiritual journey, and aspired to be a voice for good.
But behind the Instagram and YouTube videos, there was something she never talked about: God had let her down.
A supernatural encounter in 2017 forced her to stop traveling, demolished her fledgling career, and left her with no option but to come back to Toronto where she found herself working at church.
When she enrolled in a Master's of divinity at Tyndale University, she wasn't trying to become holy or a pastor.
It was just unfinished business.
They call it deconstruction. She calls it seeking the truth. This is her story.
What Did You Think About The Podcast? A Conversation With Listeners
When we first developed this podcast, we hoped that it would spark conversation for people. That it would create a safe space where people could think critically about their own questions about faith and Christianity.
A few weeks ago, we found out that one of our listeners had brought this podcast to her home church and they did just that, spending four Sundays listening to the podcast and discussing it together. Here is our conversation with Sue Jean and Soonil, leaders of a small house church in Toronto.
28 Mar 2023
Making Sense of Seminary with Jesse Sudirgo [Season 1 Full Interviews]
Anita Wing Lee reflects on the past 4 years of studies with her program director, Professor Jesse Sudirgo. We also dissect the challenges of being someone of faith in our fast-paced, solutions-oriented world.
21 Mar 2023TRANSCRIPT
Women In Leadership with Dr. Beth Green [Season 1 Full Interviews]
In this full interview with Dr. Beth Green, Tyndale University's Provost, we discuss what it takes to be a woman in leadership. Dr. Green shares some unique challenges she faces and how we can work together to make workplaces better for everyone.
14 Mar 2023
Spirituality vs. Religion with Dr. Sarah Wilkins-Laflamme [Season 1 Full Interviews]
Does religion stand a chance in this age of spirituality? This is the full interview we did with Dr. Sarah Wilkin-Laflamme where we discuss the state of religion in Canada and how people perceive "spiritual" people differently from "religious" types.
7 Mar 2023
Mixing Mental Health & Christianity with Dr. Helen Noh [Season 1 Full Interview]
This is the full interview we did with psychologist and counselling professor Dr. Helen Noh as we discussed mental health and what it means for the church. Dr. Noh shares fascinating insights on the difference between mental health practitioners and pastors and why we might need both.
9 Dec 2022
BONUS: Unpolished Conversation on Season 1
What did you think? Anita Wing Lee and Dr. James Tyler Robertson reflect on the highlights from Episodes 1 to 11 of Season 1 and talk about what's next for this Heavenly Minded Earthly Good.
6 Dec 2022
Episode 11: My Mom's Side of the Story — Season 1 Finale
In this season finale, Anita Wing Lee interviews her mom, Rev. Faith Lee. The woman who prayed for years behind the screen. She never could have guessed that things would come together like this. After a long, slow road of healing, learning, and reconciling, Anita shares her new take on life, faith, and her hope for the years ahead.
29 Nov 2022
Episode 10: The Creator In You
God is still in business. When Anita Wing Lee discovers community of faith-driven entrepreneurs, a dormant passion is awakened, and possibly, the gateway to a new career and life. Featuring Philip Yan, the director of Tyndale's Center for Redemptive Entrepreneurship.
22 Nov 2022
Episode 9: House On A Hill
If Christianity is not a set of intellectual beliefs, then what IS it? Anita Wing Lee shares the series of inconceivable events that led her to redefine the Christian faith as a way of life marked by generosity and hospitality. Featuring pastor and neighbour Sonya Tetley and author Kevin Makins.
15 Nov 2022
Episode 8: How to Start Healing
How do you heal a wound that makes you successful? As Anita Wing Lee learns to find her identity in something other than work and the Internet, she examines different ways of understanding her primal brokenness: performance orientation, spiritual direction and the enneagram.
Featuring registered psychotherapist Lyndsay Thompson and spiritual director Sandra Hunt.
8 Nov 2022
Episode 7: For the Love Of Idols
There's nothing quite as intoxicating as success –– unless you combine it with the allure of travel! After two surprise trips to Jamaica and Guatemala, it looks like Anita's best life is back within her grasp. That is until she is faced with the truth behind her workaholism. Featuring Jesse Surdirgo, the director of my Church In The City Program at Tyndale University.
1 Nov 2022
Episode 6: Heaven Bent featuring Tara Jean Stevens
In this special episode, we interview Tara Jean Stevens, the host of the chart-topping podcast Heaven Bent. Tara Jean tells us about the events in her adolescence that unravelled her faith, the freedom she's found living without Christianity, and the real questions that still trouble her.
25 Oct 2022TRANSCRIPT
Episode 5: The Weight Of A Woman
Why would anyone want to be part of something that oppresses women? Exhausted by the unspoken power dynamics women face in Christianity, Anita Wing Lee asks her tough questions to the provost of Tyndale University, Dr. Beth Green and ordained minister, Dr. Marilyn Draper.
18 Oct 2022
Episode 4: When Theology Meets Marvel
Can we make up our own theology? Who cares about doctrine? How does your universe work? Anita Wing Lee demystifies 'theology' as she uncovers the thousands of different ways to express faith in something bigger than ourselves.
Features conversations with Dr. Patrick Franklin, Dr. Victor Shepherd and Dr. James Tyler Robertson.
11 Oct 2022
Episode 3: Spiritual But Not Religious
"You don't need to go to church to be a good person." Anita Wing Lee tries to make sense of whether she should be spiritual, religious, both or neither.
Features conversations with professor of sociology, Dr. Sarah Wilkins-Laflamme, author and pastor, Kevin Makins and historian Dr. James Tyler Robertson.
4 Oct 2022
Episode 2: Invisible Grief, Hidden Trauma
It's not about what you believe. Anita Wing Lee dives deep into the layers of grief and trauma that pushed her to leave the Christian faith as a teenager and kept her away for years.
14 Sept 2022
Episode 1: The Art of Throwing Rocks at God
Anita Wing Lee was living her dreams as a traveling content creator when a supernatural encounter forced her to return to Toronto and face the thing she had avoided most: God.
2 Sept 2022
Trailer 2 — Heavenly Minded Earthly Good
Dr. James T. Robertson introduces the new podcast — Heavenly Minded Earthly Good
2 Sept 2022
Trailer 1 — Heavenly Minded Earthly Good
Introducing Heavenly Minded Earthly Good
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Women In Leadership with Dr. Beth Green [Season 1 Full Interviews]
Published 21 Mar 2023 · Transcript excerpt
[…] There are a lot of theologians, there are a lot of Bible teachers, there are a lot of really good teachers in Christian schools, but the number of people who actually research how to put those things together, how to put theology together with pedagogy, and how to think about that, particularly in the K -12 context, is quite a small bunch of us. […]
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