In the Hidden Money podcast, you'll learn how you can legally use the tax code to your financial advantage. There’s wealth inside the tax code. Taxes aren’t the enemy. Most people hate taxes (and pay more than they should). But when you view taxes only as an evil expense, you miss out on legal ways to grow your wealth. Unlock the secrets to saving tax and building wealth with the Hidden Money Podcast! 🎧💰 Hosted by Mike Pine and Kevin Schneider.

Hidden Money Podcast
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In the Hidden Money podcast, you'll learn how you can legally use the tax code to your financial advantage. There’s wealth inside the tax code. Taxes aren’t the enemy. Most people hate taxes (and pay more than they should). But when you view taxes only as an evil expense, you miss out on legal ways to grow your wealth. Unlock the secrets to saving tax and building wealth with the Hidden Money Podcast! 🎧💰 Hosted by Mike Pine and Kevin Schneider.
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July 28, 2026
Careers at Revo
<p>Kevin and Mike turn the mic on their own firm: the four values behind the Revo name, the staffing model built on excess capacity and a 50-hour ceiling, why half of revenue goes to the team, and the new Grapevine, Texas headquarters. If you’re a CPA who thinks outside the box, this episode is the job posting.</p><p><strong>Careers page:</strong> <a href="https://www.revotaxpayer.com/careers?utm_source=revo-taxpayer&utm_medium=website&utm_campaign=ep-s4e21-careers-at-revo&utm_content=show-notes">https://www.revotaxpayer.com/careers?utm_source=revo-taxpayer&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=ep-s4e21-careers-at-revo&utm_content=show-notes</a></p><p><strong>Connect With Us</strong></p><p>• Website: <a href="https://www.revotaxpayer.com/?utm_source=revo-taxpayer&utm_medium=website&utm_campaign=ep-s4e21-careers-at-revo&utm_content=show-notes">https://www.revotaxpayer.com/?utm_source=revo-taxpayer&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=ep-s4e21-careers-at-revo&utm_content=show-notes</a><br>• Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/revotaxpayer/">https://www.facebook.com/revotaxpayer/</a><br>• Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/revotaxpayer/">https://www.instagram.com/revotaxpayer/</a><br>• LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/revo-taxpayer-advocacy">https://www.linkedin.com/company/revo-taxpayer-advocacy</a><br>• YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@HiddenMoneyPodcast">https://www.youtube.com/@HiddenMoneyPodcast</a></p><p><strong>Chapters<br></strong>[00:00] Introduction<br>[00:30] A revolutionary history<br>[02:50] R is for Relationship<br>[05:00] E is for Excellence<br>[05:45] V is for Values<br>[07:00] The hiring bar<br>[08:15] O is for Out-of-the-box<br>[10:30] The new Grapevine HQ<br>[11:30] Why in-person to start<br>[14:45] The staffing philosophy<br>[16:45] The attrition trap<br>[19:45] Excess capacity by design<br>[21:15] Where the money goes<br>[24:00] The mission<br>[25:25] Family first<br>[26:45] The insurance decision<br>[28:30] Above-market pay, smaller-firm life<br>[29:30] Who should apply<br>[30:30] How to apply</p>

July 21, 2026
Tax and AI
<p>Mike and Kevin sit down with Jake Jordan for a practical conversation about AI: what it actually is, how to use the tools you already own, and how to chain them into systems that work for you. Along the way they uncover the tax angle, R&D credits that help pay for AI adoption, and the cautions every taxpayer needs around accuracy and data security.</p><p><strong>Get in touch:</strong> <a href="https://www.revotaxpayer.com/?utm_source=revo-taxpayer&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=ep-s4e20-tax-and-ai&utm_content=show-notes#contact-1">https://www.revotaxpayer.com/?utm_source=revo-taxpayer&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=ep-s4e20-tax-and-ai&utm_content=show-notes#contact-1</a><br><strong>Take our 5 minute tax assessment:</strong> <a href="https://www.revotaxpayer.com/?utm_source=revo-taxpayer&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=ep-s4e20-tax-and-ai&utm_content=show-notes#taxassistant">https://www.revotaxpayer.com/?utm_source=revo-taxpayer&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=ep-s4e20-tax-and-ai&utm_content=show-notes#taxassistant</a></p><p><strong>Connect With Jake<br>• </strong>Website: <a href="https://lamplightcircle.com">https://lamplightcircle.com</a><br>• Contact: jake@lamplightcircle.com</p><p><strong>Connect With Us</strong></p><p>• Website: <a href="https://www.revotaxpayer.com/?utm_source=revo-taxpayer&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=ep-s4e20-tax-and-ai&utm_content=show-notes">https://www.revotaxpayer.com/?utm_source=revo-taxpayer&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=ep-s4e20-tax-and-ai&utm_content=show-notes</a><br>• Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/revotaxpayer/">https://www.facebook.com/revotaxpayer/</a><br>• Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/revotaxpayer/">https://www.instagram.com/revotaxpayer/</a><br>• LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/revo-taxpayer-advocacy">https://www.linkedin.com/company/revo-taxpayer-advocacy</a><br>• YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@HiddenMoneyPodcast">https://www.youtube.com/@HiddenMoneyPodcast</a></p><p><br><strong>Chapters</strong><br>[00:00] Welcome + deadline reminders<br>[01:00] The Irish farmer and the Industrial Revolution<br>[04:00] What AI actually is<br>[05:30] General intelligence, and the AI already inside your tools<br>[07:00] Kevin's experiment: AI watched five years of presentations to find the most-asked questions<br>[08:30] The "Kevin bot" idea: turning years of content into a client-facing assistant<br>[09:30] Why AI gets things wrong<br>[11:00] Google is AI-first now <br>[13:00] Your inbox is an underused tax tool <br>[14:30] From queries to systems<br>[19:30] The caution <br>[20:30] The hidden money<br>[23:30] Jake's advice: "vibe coding" and why there's no excuse not to try something<br>[24:30] AI and healthcare<br>[25:30] Clients running tax returns through AI<br>[27:30] Security<br>[30:30] Wrap-up + how to connect with Jake Jordan</p>

July 14, 2026
What I Would Tell My Young Investor Self 10 Years Ago
<p>On this episode Mike and Kevin take a time machine back to their own early investing years and lay out, in specific dollar terms, everything they'd do differently, from the house Mike was too scared to buy to the oil and gas deal that turned out to be a Ponzi scheme. Along the way they break down fixed vs. variable debt, tax-advantaged real estate, and why the tax code rewards people willing to take a calculated risk.</p><p><strong>Get in touch:</strong> <a href="https://www.revotaxpayer.com/?utm_source=revo-taxpayer&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=ep-s4e19-young-investor-self&utm_content=show-notes#contact">https://www.revotaxpayer.com/?utm_source=revo-taxpayer&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=ep-s4e19-young-investor-self&utm_content=show-notes#contact</a><br><strong>Take our 5 minute tax assessment:</strong> <a href="https://www.revotaxpayer.com/?utm_source=revo-taxpayer&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=ep-s4e19-young-investor-self&utm_content=show-notes#resources">https://www.revotaxpayer.com/?utm_source=revo-taxpayer&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=ep-s4e19-young-investor-self&utm_content=show-notes#resources</a></p><p><strong>Connect With Us</strong></p><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://www.revotaxpayer.com/">https://www.revotaxpayer.com/</a></li><li>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/revotaxpayer/">https://www.facebook.com/revotaxpayer/</a></li><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/revotaxpayer/">https://www.instagram.com/revotaxpayer/</a></li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/revo-taxpayer-advocacy">https://www.linkedin.com/company/revo-taxpayer-advocacy</a></li><li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@HiddenMoneyPodcast">https://www.youtube.com/@HiddenMoneyPodcast</a></li></ul><p><strong>Chapters<br></strong>[00:00] Introduction <br>[00:02] Real estate regrets begin<br>[00:05] Don't try to time the market <br>[00:07] Kevin's first home and the first-time buyer credit <br>[00:09] Buying a commercial property against their own tax practice<br>[00:11] Debt is dessert<br>[00:12] The 10X leverage example<br>[00:13] Fixed vs. variable debt<br>[00:15] The oil and gas investment that became a Ponzi scheme <br>[00:17] Kevin's grandfather's investing rule<br>[00:19] Why CPAs are bad at following their own advice <br>[00:21] Tax-advantaged real estate vs. stock dividends<br>[00:23] Maxing your 401(k) match<br>[00:24] Don't be scared<br>[00:27] The oil and gas tax math<br>[00:28] Why the tax incentive exists<br>[00:31] Closing thoughts</p>
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