Beyond Vibe Coding is a weekly podcast for senior engineering leaders navigating the impact of AI on how software gets built.
Hosted by Sebastian Heide-Meyer zu Erpen and André Neubauer in partnership with Impala Search, each episode brings together the leaders shaping the next era of engineering - from how teams are adopting AI, to what changes for product and architecture, to what stays unchanged when the tools shift underneath us.
New episodes weekly.
#S2.18 Agentic Engineering Needs Better Planning, Not More One-Shotting - Yenny Cheung (Bluefish AI)
Yenny Cheung, VP Engineering at Bluefish, joins us to discuss what agentic engineering looks like when quality, compliance and customer trust are non-negotiable. She explains why daily AI briefings can be valuable even when imperfect, why one-shotting complex work fails, and why teams need to move more alignment into the planning stage.
We also cover a practical operating model for business-owned skills: engineering owns the CI/CD pipeline, isolated environments and deterministic checks while customer-facing teams own the workflows closest to their problems. Yenny shares how Bluefish scopes a KTLO agent, monitors model cost and thinks about outcome metrics beyond raw output.
Finally, we discuss Claude Artifacts, generative interfaces and the enduring value of taste: knowing what good looks like is still the human work.
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Beyond Vibe Coding Podcast is a project by Sebastian Heide-Meyer zu Erpen and André Neubauer, partnering with Impala Search. The content is created by us and our guests. Join the discussion on LinkedIn or visit www.bvc.fm (http://www.bvc.fm), where we publish all episodes. For questions and inquiries, feel free to contact us via LinkedIn. Thank you for your time and see you in the next episode.
1 Oct 2026
#S2.17 Don’t Design AI for Your Company. Redesign Your Company for AI - Stefan (Infinite Mind)
What does it take to make AI change a company rather than become another pilot programme? Stefan Atanassov, co-founder of Infinite Mind, joins us to argue that the decisive work is not choosing a model. It is redesigning processes, roles, skills and governance around the value the company wants to create.
We discuss why CEOs must own the AI narrative, why generic tool rollouts and generic training fail, how role-specific enablement develops real intuition and why scaling needs permissions, security, governance and cost management from the beginning. Stefan also explains why the goal is for AI to become boring: embedded safely in the way work gets done.
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Beyond Vibe Coding Podcast is a project by Sebastian Heide-Meyer zu Erpen and André Neubauer, partnering with Impala Search. The content is created by us and our guests. Join the discussion on LinkedIn or visit www.bvc.fm (http://www.bvc.fm), where we publish all episodes. For questions and inquiries, feel free to contact us via LinkedIn. Thank you for your time and see you in the next episode.
24 Sept 2026
#2.16 The AI Apocalypse Debate: What the Hugging Face Incident Actually Changed
What should leaders make of stories about autonomous agents coordinating, bypassing constraints and acting beyond their assigned task? Sebastian Heide-Meyer zu Erpen and André Neubauer examine the reported OpenAI and Hugging Face incident as a systems problem. They discuss why persistent agents, access to tools and weak control boundaries can create surprising outcomes without requiring mysticism about AI.
The conversation also confronts the strategic problem behind safety: frontier labs and governments face strong incentives to move quickly. The hosts argue for a more useful debate than either fear marketing or casual dismissal, one focused on verifiable controls, independent scrutiny and practical incident preparedness.
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Links and References
METR's independent investigation of the OpenAI / Hugging Face incident (https://metr.org/blog/2026-08-26-openai-hugging-face-incident-investigation/)
OpenAI's Black Hat presentation on the incident (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87DyyMV0kCY)
Reporting on the Irregular sandbox incidents (https://www.effort.news/irregular)
Reporting on the German wiki breakout (https://thenextweb.com/news/openai-agents-german-wiki-breakout)
ExploitGym benchmark paper (https://arxiv.org/abs/2507.00905)
Beyond Vibe Coding Podcast is a project by Sebastian Heide-Meyer zu Erpen and André Neubauer, partnering with Impala Search. The content is created by us and our guests. Join the discussion on LinkedIn or visit bvc.fm (https://www.bvc.fm), where we publish all episodes. For questions and inquiries, feel free to contact us via LinkedIn. Thank you for your time and see you in the next episode.
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