Three long-time friends, two Pastors and one CEO, explore the spaces between Ministry and Business, Professional and Amateur Christianity, and Faith and Disbelief, with joy, love, and a grain of salt. <br/><br/><a href="https://holdforpodcast.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast">holdforpodcast.substack.com</a>
Hold For Podcast
Claim This Podcastby Looking for the Wisdom Path and trying to stay on it.
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Three long-time friends, two Pastors and one CEO, explore the spaces between Ministry and Business, Professional and Amateur Christianity, and Faith and Disbelief, with joy, love, and a grain of salt. <br/><br/><a href="https://holdforpodcast.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast">holdforpodcast.substack.com</a>
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May 18, 2026
S5E03 - Awareness, Clarity, and Moral Courage
<p>Alex debriefs his first management training gig — parachuting into a Florida nonprofit to coach twenty-something camp supervisors who’d rather be friends than give feedback. Then the tables turn: Macon’s been invited to do a 45-minute leadership talk and hates everything about it. What follows is Macon wrestling in real time with why management training makes him nauseous, landing on a framework he actually believes in: awareness, clarity, and focus — the same underlying muscle whether you’re doing lean on a warehouse floor, having a fierce conversation, or learning to deadlift. Alex pushes back on “focus” as too passive and calls out Macon’s blind spot: moral courage comes easy for an Enneagram 8, but most people are paralyzed by it. Along the way: the OODA loop, why the history of science is nothing like your textbook, survivorship bias in business books, the transferability of practices across domains, and whether rolling in on a skateboard would be the douchiest possible entrance.</p><p></p><p><strong>Show Notes:</strong></p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+10%3A25-37&version=ESV">Parable of the Good Samaritan</a> — “the man wanted to justify himself”</p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://www.amazon.com/Getting-Things-Done-Stress-Free-Productivity/dp/0143126563">Getting Things Done</a> by David Allen</p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lean_manufacturing">Lean</a> / <a target="_blank" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5S_(methodology)">5S</a></p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lean_manufacturing">4DX</a></p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://www.amazon.com/Measure-What-Matters-Google-Foundation/dp/0525536221">Measure What Matters</a> by John Doerr (OKRs)</p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Conversations-Talking-Stakes-Second/dp/0071771328">Crucial Conversations</a></p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://www.amazon.com/Radical-Candor-Revised-Kick-Ass-Humanity/dp/1250235375">Radical Candor</a> by Kim Scott</p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://www.amazon.com/Fierce-Conversations-Achieving-Success-Conversation/dp/0425193373">Fierce Conversations</a> by Susan Scott — “short sentences, strong verbs”</p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OODA_loop">OODA Loop</a> — observe, orient, decide, act</p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://bulletjournal.com/">Bullet Journaling</a></p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedonic_treadmill">Hedonic adaptation</a></p> <br/><br/>This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://holdforpodcast.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1">holdforpodcast.substack.com</a>
May 4, 2026
S5E02 - You know more than you can say.
<p>Alex and Macon debrief the Lenten reading of Torrance’s Atonement: why the judicial metaphor alone is eight-bit theology, how the familial metaphor recenters the whole story on a God who is for you. Then Macon goes full nerd on apprehension vs. comprehension: Polanyi’s tacit dimension, how scientists and warehouse workers alike interact with what’s real, why the Western philosophical tradition severed us from the world, and what Torrance means by critical realism. Along the way: the deposit of faith as not-perfectly-wordable Apostolic knowledge, Scripture as sign pointing beyond itself, repentance as an epistemological mode (not merely a moral mode), and why the incarnation is what makes God apprehensible to creatures.</p><p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/ctCwI9-mbPc?si=-Yzhw1nJSqCSKsek">One does not simply walk into Mordor</a></p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://www.gladwellbooks.com/">Gladwellit</a></p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://www.eyetricks-3d-stereograms.com/how_stereograms_work.html">Stereogram</a></p><p>* T.F. Torrance, <a target="_blank" href="https://a.co/d/0dOiLJgG">Atonement</a></p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_of_Norwich">Julian of Norwich</a></p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Polanyi">Michael Polanyi</a>: <a target="_blank" href="https://archive.org/details/tacitdimension0000mich_w4j8">tacit dimension</a></p><p>* TFT’s article: <a target="_blank" href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/14z9V5HJzsdzj_JH700yRVpkChftGjvas/view?usp=sharing">The Deposit of Faith</a></p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://mmbostwick.substack.com/i/105879647/critical-realism">Critical realism</a></p><p></p> <br/><br/>This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://holdforpodcast.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1">holdforpodcast.substack.com</a>
April 27, 2026
Management Consulting: What am I doing?
<p>Alex and Macon are back after a seven-week hiatus. Alex is preparing to fly out for his first corporate management training gig. Macon and Alex trade notes on what actually makes for good management, why most people in every profession are just figuring it out as they go, and (again) whether the word “culture” is even useful. Along the way: Torrance on relationships as constitutive of personhood, the Real Question for genuine management wisdom, Jesus washing feet as a model for authority, and why hiring might be the hardest job on the planet.</p><p>Show Notes</p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/ua_W3GojRoY?si=rM0ULN_a5ovFoAtw">Alex’s life vibes right now</a></p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastertide">Eastertide</a>: all the way to Pentecost</p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://www.arthurcoaching.com/">Shane Arthur</a> </p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://www.amazon.com/Getting-Things-Done-Stress-Free-Productivity/dp/0143126563">Getting Things Done</a> by David Allen</p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://www.amazon.com/Disciplines-Execution-Achieving-Wildly-Important/dp/145162705X">The 4 Disciplines of Execution</a> by Chris McChesney et al.</p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://www.amazon.com/Holacracy-Management-System-Rapidly-Changing/dp/162779428X">Holacracy</a> by Brian Robertson</p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5S_(methodology)">Lean / 5S</a></p><p>* Gary Deddo shout out for the “no” that serves the “yes”</p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+13&version=ESV">John 13</a> </p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://www.amazon.com/Boundaries-Leaders-Results-Relationships-Ridiculously/dp/0062206338">Boundaries for Leaders</a> by Henry Cloud </p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://mmbostwick.substack.com/i/105879647/critical-realism">Critical Realism</a> </p><p>* <a target="_blank" href="https://youtu.be/YSSYk0V1cOY?si=CpV57fEqSRlf28kC">What would you say you do here?</a></p> <br/><br/>This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://holdforpodcast.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1">holdforpodcast.substack.com</a>
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