by Ollie Palmer
Conversations with creative practitioners who also teach, exploring what, how, and why they do what they do. A podcast for anyone who works in a creative field, who studies a creative subject, or who teaches one. Hosted by artist, film-maker, and teacher Ollie Palmer, and supported by the Situated Art and Design Research Group at Caradt.
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November 10, 2023
<p>This episode features a conversation with teacher, artist, entrepreneur (and a few more things)...Cesar Jung Harada. You can find out more about Cesar at his website, <a href="https://cesarharada.com">cesarharada.com</a>.</p><p>Cesar's biography says: </p>Cesar Jung-Harada is a French-Japanese designer, environmentalist, educator, and entrepreneur, passionate about ocean technology, impact innovation, and education based in Singapore. Cesar is an Associate Professor of Design at the <a href="https://www.singaporetech.edu.sg/">Singapore Institute of Technology</a>. Cesar is currently a candidate Ph.D. in Design and Ocean Innovation at the <a href="https://www.cnam.eu/site-en/">CNAM</a> (France), Former Director of <a href="http://makerbay.net/">MakerBay </a>LTD (Hong Kong Makerspace), <a href="https://www.scoutbots.com/">Scoutbots</a> LTD (Ocean Robotic Startup). Cesar serves as a Trustee of the board of HBKU (Qatar), the <a href="https://wyng.hk/">Wyng Foundation</a> (Hong Kong), and regularly delivers workshops and keynotes at international conferences in places such as the <a href="/436680694cc04359b854a0d594d9b0bb">UN, Harvard or TED</a>. See his <a href="/f3d52c34757d499aa59b1713dd1cc23c?pvs=25">projects</a>.<p><br>As you'll hear, I first met Cesar back in the late 2000s, where he was making an audacious project at the Royal College of Art, with a note that said 'join me' - so I did! That project took me on a wild journey, and I learnt a lot from it. Since then, Cesar has worked, lived, and taught around the world, with a wealth of weird and wonderful experiences that he brings back into all of the other roles he has. I really enjoyed this conversation - there is a lot of wisdom in Cesar's words. </p><p>Please note, this conversation was recorded in 2022, when Cesar was teaching in Hong Kong. Since then, Cesar has moved from Hong Kong to Singapore. </p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://cesarharada.com">Cesar's website</a></li><li><a href="https://www.singaporetech.edu.sg/">Cesar's academic profile</a></li><li><a href="https://tetsuoharada.com/publications.htm">Harada</a>: the book Cesar made about his father, the sculptor <a href="https://tetsuoharada.com">Tetsuo Harada</a></li><li>Simon Sinek's book: <a href="https://simonsinek.com/books/the-infinite-game/">The Infinite Game</a> (mentioned at around 1:10:00)<p></p></li></ul><p><strong>Chapters<br></strong><br></p><p>00:00 Cesar's introduction<br>01:02 Ollie's introduction<br>06:05 Description of practice <br>07:40 Mode of practice<br>17:15 Teaching<br>20:08 Hong Kong<br>27:16 Early education<br>35:32 Preferred teaching exercise<br>41:35 Life experience and design; barriers to entry<br>51:50 Learning from repetition <br>55:14 Time management, and people management</p>
October 6, 2023
<p>This episode I’m delighted to be joined by Barbara Neves Alves. </p><p><br></p><p>Barbara was, for four years, a colleague of mine at the Master Institute of Visual Cultures, in St Joost School of Art and Design, where I teach. During that time, she was responsible for thesis supervision for Situated Design masters students. I really enjoyed working with her for all of that time, despite the fact that about half of it coincided with the global pandemic. As you’ll hear, she has a really interesting way of approaching theory, and practice, weaving them both into each other. </p><p><br></p><p>Barbara’s <a href="https://www.academia.edu/30217879/Miscommunicating_and_design_Researching_miscommunication_as_a_proposition_for_designing_political_scenes">PhD</a> was on the subject of Miscommunication: advancing the concept of Miscommunication to challenge the notion of ‘good communication’ as an objective of the field of communication design—communication is often failing to reach its intended audiences or outcomes. It expanded on miscommunication as concept and practice to demonstrate how social and cultural exchanges that produce error or misunderstanding can be provocative sites for developing new modes of communication design.</p><p><br></p><p>In this conversation, we talk about an article she wrote about her experiences at Occupy London years ago - there’s an odd echo of my conversation with Nelly Ben Hayoun last episode; we talk about her practice, teaching techniques, balancing the different modes of practice; and what she does if she’s stuck in a creative rut. As ever, there is a full transcript of this episode available, and the show notes have links to many of the things we’ve talked about.</p><p><br></p><p>This conversation was recorded way back in November 2021.</p><p><br>==</p><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Barbara</strong></p><ul><li>Barbara’s website: <a href="https://barbaranevesalves.net">https://barbaranevesalves.net</a> </li><li>Barbara’s article on Occupy: <a href="https://barbaranevesalves.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Miscommunicating_Publics_published_in_B.pdf">https://barbaranevesalves.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Miscommunicating_Publics_published_in_B.pdf</a></li><li>Barbara’s PhD: <a href="https://www.academia.edu/30217879/Miscommunicating_and_design_Researching_miscommunication_as_a_proposition_for_designing_political_scenes">https://www.academia.edu/30217879/Miscommunicating_and_design_Researching_miscommunication_as_a_proposition_for_designing_political_scenes</a> </li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Books and articles mentioned</strong></p><p><br></p><ul><li>Inventive Methods, edited by Celia Lury and Nina Wakeford: <a href="https://www.routledge.com/Inventive-Methods-The-Happening-of-the-Social/Lury-Wakeford/p/book/9780415721103">https://www.routledge.com/Inventive-Methods-The-Happening-of-the-Social/Lury-Wakeford/p/book/9780415721103</a></li><li>Claudia Giannetti: <a href="https://zkm.de/en/person/claudia-giannetti">https://zkm.de/en/person/claudia-giannetti</a> </li><li>Marcel-li Antunez (one of the creators of Fura del Baus): <a href="http://www.marceliantunez.com">http://www.marceliantunez.com</a> </li><li>Ursula K LeGuin: The Carrier Bag Theory of Fiction</li><li>Kathy Acker: Against Ordinary Language: <a href="https://www.yvonnebuchheim.com/uploads/1/7/0/8/17088324/acker-kathy_the_language_of_the_body.pdf">https://www.yvonnebuchheim.com/uploads/1/7/0/8/17088324/acker-kathy_the_language_of_the_body.pdf</a> </li><li>Barbara’s project around José Gil: Portugal Today: Fear of Existing. <a href="https://manifoldbooks.nl/ADiplomatsWalk.pdf">https://manifoldbooks.nl/ADiplomatsWalk.pdf</a> </li><li>Additional reading: Gordon Pask’s Conversation Theory discussed by Jon Goodbun and Ben Sweeting: <a href="https://journals.open.tudelft.nl/footprint/article/view/5668">https://journals.open.tudelft.nl/footprint/article/view/5668</a> </li><li>Manifold Books, Amsterdam: <a href="https://manifoldbooks.nl">https://manifoldbooks.nl</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>I hope you enjoy this episode! For more information, full transcripts, and more episodes, please visit the show website at www.holdthespace.art</p><p><br></p>
September 1, 2023
<p>A podcast about creative practice and teaching. This week I'm joined by Dr. Nelly Ben Hayoun to discuss her work and teaching, the University of the Underground, working with large teams on multi-year projects, Hannah Arendt, Michael Jackson, and couscous. It's a great conversation; join us!</p><p><strong>Chapters<br></strong></p><ul><li>(00:00) - 002: Nelly Ben Hayoun</li> <li>(00:33) - Intro</li> <li>(01:45) - Nelly Ben Hayoun Intro</li> <li>(07:41) - Background: Michael Jackson, origins of practice</li> <li>(15:37) - Quick tour of the studio</li> <li>(16:32) - Success criteria</li> <li>(24:20) - University of the Underground</li> <li>(29:36) - Student projects</li> <li>(35:12) - Teaching methodology</li> <li>(40:51) - Developing projects</li> <li>(49:43) - I am Not a Monster and Red Moon films</li> <li>(52:40) - Credits</li> <li>(54:49) - Outro</li> </ul><br><strong>Show notes</strong><p><br><strong>Nelly, projects, and the University of the Underground</strong></p><ul><li>Nelly Ben Hayoun Studios website: <a href="https://nellyben.com">https://nellyben.com</a></li><li>University of the Underground website: <a href="https://universityoftheunderground.org/">https://universityoftheunderground.org/</a></li><li>Nelly’s RCA Design Interatcions graduation project The Soyuz Chair: <a href="https://nellyben.com/projects/experiences/the-soyuz-chair-2/">https://nellyben.com/projects/experiences/the-soyuz-chair-2/</a></li><li>International Space Orchestra: <a href="https://internationalspaceorchestra.com">https://internationalspaceorchestra.com</a></li><li>Disaster Playground film: <a href="https://disasterplayground.com">https://disasterplayground.com</a></li></ul><p><strong>Projects mentioned in conversation</strong></p><ul><li>8:55 Nelly mentions Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Origins_of_Totalitarianism">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Origins_of_Totalitarianism</a></li><li>18:21 International Space Orchestra project with Kid Kudi: <a href="https://internationalspaceorchestra.com/international_space_orchestra_hit_the_road/">https://internationalspaceorchestra.com/international_space_orchestra_hit_the_road/</a></li><li>20:32 The End of Protest - book by MIcah White, co-founder of Occupy Wall Street <a href="https://endofprotest.com">https://endofprotest.com</a></li></ul><p><strong>University of the Underground students</strong></p><ul><li>30:20 Nelly discusses Alexander Cromer’s Black Arctic project. Here’s an article on the project in Metropolis M magazine: <a href="https://www.metropolism.com/en/features/49457_the_black_arctic_became_a_way_of_reclaiming_death_and_a_way_of_finding_some_kind_of_ancestral_home_in_conversation_with_alexander_cromer">https://www.metropolism.com/en/features/49457_the_black_arctic_became_a_way_of_reclaiming_death_and_a_way_of_finding_some_kind_of_ancestral_home_in_conversation_with_alexander_cromer</a></li><li>31:55 Nelly discusses pornographer Stoya’s project GRID: <a href="https://universityoftheunderground.org/gird-loins-faith-fellows">https://universityoftheunderground.org/gird-loins-faith-fellows</a></li><li>32:59 Nelly discusses Ana Subeliani’s project in Georgia: <a href="https://universityoftheunderground.org/student/ana-subeliani">https://universityoftheunderground.org/student/ana-subeliani</a></li></ul><p>This podcast is made possible by the Situated Art and Design Research Group at Caradt, the Centre for Applied Research in Art, Design, and Technology. Find out more at www.caradt.nl</p>
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Conversations with creative practitioners who also teach, exploring what, how, and why they do what they do. A podcast for anyone who works in a creative field, who studies a creative subject, or who teaches one.
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