Born from that Wicked meme and fuelled by late-night voice notes, Holdin’ Space is where chaos meets clarity. Hosts Zach Stoner and Lee Gray hold space for the deep and the dumb, the heartfelt and the hilarious — all with zero judgement and maximum side-eye.
From family baggage to pop culture breakdowns, queer joy to existential dread, nothing’s off limits. It's not therapy, but it might feel like it. It’s not gossip, but it definitely is.
In a world that’s doing the most, Holdin’ Space is here to do just enough. Tune in for real talk, wild laughs, and the occasional emotional spiral.
For When You Finally Understand Why Marriage, Capitalism, and Your Spine Are All Crumbling at Once
This week, Z and Lee are holding space for the quiet rebellion of not showing up. From skipping events you didn’t want to attend to wondering if the human body was ever meant to make it past 35, we’re talking about why your back hurts, your marriage might not, and your job might soon belong to AI. It’s giving existential dread with ergonomic flair.
7 Aug 2025
for... Masculinity, Caleb Williams & Conservative In-Laws 😅
In this episode, Z & Lee are holdin space for all the messy, meaningful convos that keep showing up in real life 💭✨
We kick things off with some Spice Girls nostalgia 🧡 and summer catch-ups ☀️🍦, then dive into a bigger convo around NFL star Caleb Williams and why his personal style is triggering some very loud opinions 😬👕💅.
We unpack the fragility of masculinity, why emotional intelligence still feels taboo for men 🧠💔, and how therapy changes the game. Also on the table: the oh-so-fun challenge of meeting your partner’s conservative parents for the first time 😬🎭 - and what it really means to bridge political gaps in love 💌 vs. values 🌍.
🧩 Chapters:
00:00 – Spice Girls & Summer Adventures 👯♀️🌴
06:36 – Holdin Space for Caleb Williams 🏈👗
13:25 – Men, Emotions & Relationship Realness 🧠💞
21:21 – Politics, Parents & Partnership 🎭🗳️💬
3 Jul 2025
for TS Madison & The Myth of Protecting Women
Lee interviews TS Madison about the politicization and othering of trans people, especially Black trans women, exploring toxic masculinity, transphobia, and media representation in this episode.
26 Jun 2025
for Tops That Text Back & Sex Ed That Doesn’t Suck
Hosts Z and Lee discuss lessons learned from past experiences, reflect on Pride Month, explore gaps in queer sex education, and answer a listener letter about preparing for sex in this interview episode.
18 Jun 2025
for Zombies, Corsets, Cubicles & Fake-Woke Men
Hosts Z and Lee analyze the complexities of modern love, media's influence, and the gap between performative progressivism and genuine activism, offering insights on introspection and navigating relationships.
11 Jun 2025
for Millennials because Dating Is a Job, Work Is a Scam, and We’re Tired
Hosts Z and Lee explore the unique struggles of millennials, including financial instability, work-life balance, career burnout, dating app frustrations, and pervasive loneliness in this episode.
1 Jun 2025
for the Mother of All Episodes
Hosts Z and Lee explore the multifaceted roles of mother figures, examining their impact on identity, cultural narratives, and personal growth, while also discussing the importance of setting boundaries in friendships.
8 May 2025
for a new chapter
In this episode of Holdin’ Space with Z and Lee, Z opens up about reconnecting with his inner child and what it means to move through life with softness, even when everything around you feels chaotic. Together, Z and Lee get into the realities of dating in New York—the apps, the mess, the moments that leave you spiraling at 2AM - and how friendships are often the real love stories carrying us through.
They explore the lines between platonic and romantic intimacy, whether you could raise a child with a best friend, and why we should be putting more love into our chosen family. The conversation also weaves through NYC’s political tension, protest culture, and how safety and softness can feel like a privilege in the current climate.
And yes, they even touch on how economic chaos - tariffs, rent hikes, and the cost of literally existing - adds to the pressure. It’s an honest, layered look at how we’re all trying to grow, connect, and just stay soft in a world that keeps getting louder.
8 May 2025
for Beyonce, Sinners, gym etiquette and relationships on social media
In this episode of Holdin’ Space with Z and Lee, the duo catch up on life lately - from personal updates to pure excitement over Beyoncé’s upcoming tour (because obviously). They dive into a review of Sinners, a film that actually dares to do something different, and talk about why it stands out in today’s sea of remakes and reboots.
The conversation shifts to gym culture and the nonsense women have to deal with just trying to work out in peace - yes, we’re talking about respect, boundaries, and why some of y’all need to learn gym etiquette.
Z and Lee also get into the messiness of posting relationships online, the emotional baggage of past loves, and the blurry lines between sharing and oversharing. There’s also a moment of reflecting on childhood bullies - and how growing, thriving, and living well can sometimes be the best revenge.
8 May 2025
for Wicked & nothing but Wicked
In the very first episode of Holdin’ Space with Z and Lee, the two dive into the cultural grip Wicked has on them—yes, the film and the musical. From the emotional gut-punch of seeing it on screen to the deeper themes of corruption, identity, and power, they unpack how it reflects real life. Lee opens up about what it meant to see Elphaba played by a Black actress, and how that hit differently—leading into a wider convo about race, representation, and the power of performance, especially when the camera brings you in close.
They also get into how Defying Gravity is basically a queer anthem for self-acceptance—a big, dramatic “choose yourself” moment. And the Glinda vs. Elphaba debate? It’s more than just sparkle vs. sass—it’s about whether you’re actually doing the work or just posting about it.
From protest culture to personal dreams, they hold space for the mess, the meaning, and the magic of being seen—especially as queer folks of color navigating a world that wasn’t built for us.
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