This is the podcast on the new book Holding Space: A Storytelling Approach to Trampling Diversity and Inclusion, by Aminata Cairo. Hosted by Winnie Roseval and Aminata Cairo we have asked people from the general public and across the world to engage some of the chapters of this book. This book was written for you. Join us and engage as we learn how to embrace Holding Space as an alternative philosophy and approach to creating inclusive living and working environments.
Music is provided by Tripp Bratton. Songs and compositions are provided by Maimouna Youssef aka Mumu Fresch, Mama Wapajea, and Gerben Kor. Podcast produced by Mart Jeninga at Podcast Studio Amsterdam.
Episode 8 of the book discussion Holding Space is about Courage and its role as a key element in facilitating Holding Space. Winnie and Aminata engage in discussion with lawyer Gerben Kor (Netherlands), professional change expert Bettina Haarbosh (Netherlands), youth and family worker Camiel Kesser (Netherlands), and Director of Cultural Affairs at Western Carolina University Dana Patterson (USA)
18 May 2021
Episode 7: Power of Silence
Episode 7 of the book discussion Holding Space discusses the Power of Silence. Director of advice ad training organization Dimensa Mala Paltoe (Netherlands) engages with the musical director of the Aslan Music School Priya Keet (Netherlands), poet and artist Denise Brown (USA), and Winnie and Aminata.
14 May 2021
Episode 6: Gezelligheid
Therapist and entrepreneur Engracia Veldwachter (Netherlands) and student coach Mirjam Marte (Suriname) engage in a lively discussion in episode 6 with Winnie and Aminata. The topic is "Gezelligheid", a fun Dutch word and concept that has major implications for abilities to engage and connect with the other and create inclusive environments.
11 May 2021
Episode 5: Fortress of Information
In the 5th episode Winne and Aminata engage with the coordinator of the Master's Arts Education program at the Amsterdam University of the Arts Jappe Groenendijk (Netherlands), civil rights lawyer Courtney McCausland (USA), and human rights intersectional activist Eduardo Santos (Brazil). They discuss the chapter Fortress of Information in which they explore how information can be an obstacle or an excuse in overcoming the dominant and other divide.
7 May 2021
Episode 4: Appropriation As Colonisation
Appropriation as Colonization is the title of the chapter discussed in the fourth episode of the book discussion Holding Space. Law professional and social activist Roshni Ramautar (Netherlands), start up entrepreneur Bertrand Laborde (Netherlands), and university anthropology professor Erin Kenny (USA) engage with each other and Winnie and Aminata around the different ways in which appropriation can be enacted and experienced.
4 May 2021
Episode 3: Positions We Cannot Escape
In this third episode researcher Soumya Bouzaggou (Netherlands), dance studio owner Teresa Tomb (USA) and social entrepreneur Dervin Sno (Netherlands) engage with Winnie and Aminata in a conversation about the chapter Positions We Cannot Escape. This chapter is dedicated to the concept of positionality as it contributes to the dominant and other divide.
30 Apr 2021
Episode 2: The D Word
In this second episode of the book discussion Holding Space, Winnie and Aminata talk with journalist Anja Vink (Netherlands) and researcher Victoria Manya (Nigeria/Netherlands) about the chapter "The D Word". "D" in this case stands for "diversity". In this chapter Aminata lays out her vision on Diversity and Inclusion, something that will be discarded throughout the book.
26 Apr 2021
Episode 1: Introduction
In this first episode Winnie Roseval interviews Aminata Cairo about the making and content of her new book Holding Space: A Storytelling Approach to Trampling Diversity and Inclusion. The interview is interspersed with segments of the book.
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