Holding Up The Ladder
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<p>A podcast about the creative process - the how, the why.</p><p>Most artists are inspired by more than just their own medium – so even though podcast host, Matshidiso is a musician, the Arts more broadly, politics, people – in short, life informs the music she makes.</p><p>And why ‘Holding up the ladder?’ Because we’re all trying to get somewhere and Matshidiso believes we not only further the arts but each other if we ‘hold up the ladder’ rather than pull the ladder up from under us as we climb.</p><br><p><strong>Website:</strong> <a href="https://www.holdinguptheladder.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">holdinguptheladder.com</a></p><p><strong>IG: </strong><a href="https://www.instagram.com/holdinguptheladder/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@holdinguptheladder</a></p><p><strong>Twiiter: </strong><a href="https://twitter.com/hutl_" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@hutl_</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>
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September 26, 2025
It’s your job to make the work
<p>Welcome to a special live episode of Holding up the Ladder in collaboration with The Royal College of Art. feat. Gülce Tulçalı and Phoebe Davies.</p><br><p>As part of the Royal College of Art (RCA) MA graduate students', 'Curating Contemporary Art Exhibition' and their curatorial show, Feed Back, I was invited to lead a discussion exploring remediating legacies, curatorial repair and the role of artistic practice in defining and potentially shaping new legacies. </p><br><p>Our conversation took place in the Hanger space at the RCA, an open concrete and brick exhibition space with numerous MA students assembling their curatorial shows. So during our conversation expect to hear the hive like activity of a space in preparation.</p><br><p>The<strong> curatorial team</strong> responsible for Feed Back were: Apoorva Subbanna, Yi Fan, Serena Gao, Francesca Inciong, Stephanie Rubio, Arina Baburskova and Indy Calland</p><br><p>In conversation were artists: <a href="https://gulcetulcali.studio/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gülce Tulçalı</a> & <a href="https://www.phoebedavies.co.uk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Phoebe Davies</a></p><br><p>We talk about dystopian realities, about the body, about making, about the artist’s role responding to the world around us. We talk about tenant farming and about collectivity and the commons.</p><br><p>Gülce Tulçalı <a href="https://gulcetulcali.studio/About" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bio </a></p><p>Phoebe Davies <a href="https://www.phoebedavies.co.uk/about" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bio</a></p><br><p><strong>Links</strong></p><p>Now, <a href="https://libcom.org/article/now-invisible-committee" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Invisible Committee</a></p><p><a href="https://www.pagesofhackney.co.uk/webshop/product/octavias-brood-science-fiction-stories-from-social-justice-movements/?srsltid=AfmBOooCN7XOtRGCL7FZArBf61JKu8LhuQTJ_1KNww7p2QB4xGyjrLuN" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Octavia's Brood</a></p><p>Vandana Shiva, <a href=" https://www.tgjonesonline.co.uk/Product/Vandana-Shiva/Reclaiming-the-Commons--Biodiversity-Traditional-Knowledge-and-the-Rights-of-Mother-Earth/10705207" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Reclaiming The Commons</a></p><p><a href="https://www.sladefarmorganics.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Slade Farm Organics</a> & <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@sladefarmorganics6490" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Podcast</a></p><br><p>Title: It's Your Job to Make the Work - A Holding Up The Ladder production in collaboration with RCA feat. Gülce Tulçalı and Phoebe Davies</p><br><p><br></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p>
June 10, 2025
Zadie Smith & Devonté Hynes
Author Zadie Smith and musician Devonté Hynes explore storytelling, music's power, the myth of 10,000 hours, and the complexities of defining oneself as an artist in this interview.
June 7, 2025
I've been thinking about...friendship (Pt 2)
The host reflects on the profound importance of friendship and its pivotal role in shaping and nurturing her creative endeavors.
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- What is Holding Up The Ladder?
<p>A podcast about the creative process - the how, the why.</p><p>Most artists are inspired by more than just their own medium – so even though podcast host, Matshidiso is a musician, the Arts more broadly, politics, people – in short, life informs the music she makes.</p><p>And why ‘Holding up the ladder?’ Because we’re all trying to get somewhere and Matshidiso believes we not only further the arts but each other if we ‘hold up the ladder’ rather than pull the ladder up from under us as we climb.</p><br><p><strong>Website:</strong> <a href="https://www.holdinguptheladder.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">holdinguptheladder.com</a></p><p><strong>IG: </strong><a href="https://www.instagram.com/holdinguptheladder/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@holdinguptheladder</a></p><p><strong>Twiiter: </strong><a href="https://twitter.com/hutl_" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@hutl_</a></p><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.</p> - How often does this podcast release new episodes?
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