How to Make a Leader brings you the ideas and voices shaping the future of leadership. Host Hannah Beaver sits down with bold thinkers, builders, and changemakers across learning and leadership development to explore how great leaders are developed, through smart design, real-world experience, and the moments that matter. These are candid, curiosity-driven conversations crafted for L&D and leadership development professionals who want fresh insight, sharper thinking, and a smarter way to build leaders who thrive. Brought to you by Big Think+.
How To Make a Leader
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How to Make a Leader brings you the ideas and voices shaping the future of leadership. Host Hannah Beaver sits down with bold thinkers, builders, and changemakers across learning and leadership development to explore how great leaders are developed, through smart design, real-world experience, and the moments that matter. These are candid, curiosity-driven conversations crafted for L&D and leadership development professionals who want fresh insight, sharper thinking, and a smarter way to build leaders who thrive. Brought to you by Big Think+.
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May 28, 2026
How to develop leaders in a distributed, AI-augmented world
<p>Your managers are leading people they've never met in person, on teams that include both humans and AI agents. Most leadership programs weren't built for that.</p><p>Kameko Leung has built leadership development programs at Zillow, Michael Page, and now Pinterest, and she knows what it takes to develop leaders for that reality. She breaks down what distributed leadership requires: the operating systems, trust-building practices, and program design that make it work.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Things to listen for:</strong><br>(01:47) Developing leadership in a distributed environment<br>(03:28) Adapting leadership programs for remote teams<br>(08:11) Building trust and collaboration in virtual teams<br>(10:59) Developing leadership instincts in remote environments<br>(13:50) Integrating AI into leadership training and development<br>(16:54) Using AI to improve feedback and manager training<br>(18:55) Coaching circles and peer-led leadership development<br>(21:15) The evolving role of managers in an AI-augmented world<br>(24:14) What strong AI leadership actually looks like<br>(25:40) How AI is changing learning and development roles<br>(27:47) Leadership advice for building trust in virtual teams</p><p><strong><br>About Kameko Leung:</strong></p><p><br>Kameko Leung manages Leadership Development programming for Pinterest and is the Founder of Bloom Mindset Consulting. With over 10 years of experience in learning and development, Kameko has experience providing the right developmental opportunities for leaders at each transition stage of their career journey - from aspiring manager to executive. With a special focus on leading and managing remotely, Kameko has worked with teams across tech, education, recruitment, engineering, sales, and non-profit to support leaders to evolve their practices and strategies for today's work environment. Kameko is a CPTD credential holder and actively involved in the talent development community.</p><p>Connect with Kameko on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kamekoleung/">LinkedIn</a> and check out her dog treat company: <a href="http://www.theseattlebarkery.com/">The Seattle Barkery</a>. </p>
April 30, 2026
Building systems of learning (not just one-off programs)
<p>T. Rowe Price doesn't do one-off training programs. They engineer leadership.</p><p>Ryan Smith leads Global Leadership and Career Development at T. Rowe Price, where he's spent nearly four years building a company-wide learning system that reaches leaders at every level, from the C-suite to frontline associates. The foundation: a belief that everyone, regardless of title, has the capacity to lead.</p><p>He shares how they built their leadership academies, why co-creation was non-negotiable at every level, foolproof tactics to get buy-in from the C-suite, and how they turn a learning event into lasting behavior change.</p><p><strong>Things to listen for:<br></strong>(00:00) Introducing Ryan Smith<br>(01:13) The “everyone is a leader” mantra<br>(02:39) The difference between leaders and managers<br>(05:51) Why systems of learning became a priority<br>(09:33) Defining a system of learning<br>(10:28) Leadership academies and behavior frameworks<br>(12:27) Insights from the Executive Leadership Academy<br>(13:37) Building manager capability<br>(15:16) Building communities of practice<br>(17:10) Driving adoption and executive buy-in<br>(19:56) Connecting learning systems to organizational metrics<br>(23:02) Measuring engagement and performance<br>(24:30) First steps for leadership development strategy<br>(25:53) Best leadership advice Ryan has received</p><p><strong>About Ryan Smith:</strong><br>Ryan Smith is the Head of Global Leadership and Career Development at T. Rowe Price, where he focuses on career mobility and building scalable leadership systems that develop leaders at every level of the organization.</p><p><br>Before joining T. Rowe Price, Ryan spent 15 years at Truist, leading leadership and professional development for more than 45,000 employees. His work centers on creating equitable access to leadership development and aligning learning with real business outcomes.</p><p>Connect with Ryan on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-smith-07b54617b/">LinkedIn</a>. </p><p><br></p>
April 9, 2026
Quick question: What can L&D learn from the marketing team?
<p>We’re back with a Quick Question: one big question, one expert answer, in five minutes. </p><p><br>Mike Taylor explains why learning teams often underestimate the role of attention, and how ideas from cognitive and marketing psychology can improve the way training is designed. He shares six simple attention triggers that make learning more relevant, tangible and memorable, and shows how L&D teams can move from one-off courses to campaign-style learning.</p><p><strong>About Mike:</strong><strong> </strong></p><p><br></p><p>With over two decades of experience as a learning consultant, Mike has been a driving force behind transformative instructional design and organizational performance. He is a Learning Consultant at Nationwide, a faculty member in Franklin University's Graduate Instructional Design and Technology program, and co-author of the book, Think Like a Marketer, Train Like an L&D Pro. His work bridges the gap between academic theory and real-world practice, equipping future learning professionals with the skills to excel in today's dynamic landscape. </p><p><br>Connect with Mike <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/miketaylor/">here</a>. Check out his <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Think-Like-Marketer-Train-Pro/dp/1960231197?crid=1B7VIKU79J2CS&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.uU5HIMGWzUx2HMCntugJnKCKEKBSeUHzEqXVqbBupxU.iZ6DgBHtZ0wM4P-cptif_r9xkxt0h3GqWLYERp93rtA&dib_tag=se&keywords=think+like+a+marketer+learn+like+an+L&D+pro=&qid=1724668868&sprefix=think+like+a+marketer+learn+like+an+l&d+pro,aps,164=&sr=8-1&linkCode=sl1&tag=miketaylor02-20&linkId=5fcc99c38faf354318cf5db5850b14c4&language=en_US">book</a> and his <a href="https://miketaylor.kit.com/">newsletter</a>. </p>
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