About How To Train Your Dog With Love And Science - Dog Training with Annie Grossman, School For The Dogs
Annie Grossman, founder of School For The Dogs and author of the book How To Train Your Dog With Love & Science, is obsessed with positive reinforcement dog training and thinks you should be, too. Anamarie Johnson, PhD, who consults with shelters and loves to nerd out on dog-related studies. They want dog owners to be more literate in the basics of behavioral science! Tune in to learn how to use science-based methods to train dogs (and people) without pain, force, or coercion.
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"Daddy's Home, and He's Pissed": What Bad Dog Training Can Teach Us About Authoritarianism
In this episode, recorded on November 6th, I recap some of the weird moments having to do with pets and other animals in the run up to the election, from Peanut the Squirrel to Kristi Noem shooting her puppy, several stories about people eating dogs and beyond. But the apex of the weirdness came to me in in a speech where Carlson Tucker starts off talking about how American’s are too nice to dogs, and then devolves into talking about how those on the left need to be, well… spanked.
As a positive reinforcement trainer, I cannot help but reflect on the Trump’s win through the lens of animal behavior, as I’ve come to understanding it through working with dogs. This leads me to wonder what would happen if political governance wasn’t rooted in punishment? Is it possible that helping people to better understanding and applying positive reinforcement in dog training could have broader implications for society? Maybe? Maybe. Maybe if we all spent more time training, we’d at least spend less time doomscrolling…
This episode includes parts from the last two chapters of my new book, How To Train Your Dog With Love + Science (http://anniegrossman.com/book), one about studies that have been done on spanking kids and the American Veterinary Society of Animal Behavior’s recommendations on using punishment with dogs, and the other on BF Skinner’s suggestion for change people’s behavior on a societal level without force.
An audiobook (https://www.audiobooks.com/audiobook/how-to-train-your-dog-with-love-science-a-dog-lovers-guide-to-animal-behavior-and-positive-reinforcement-training/802251)version of the book has just been released from Tantor Press, narrated by Eunice Wong. If you’d like a review copy of the audiobook, I have a handful of download codes I can share to the first few people who email me (mailto:annie@schoolforthedogs.com) to ask! Put audiobook in the subject.
Ruff timeline:
00:00 Reflecting on the Election Through a Behavioral Lens
00:52 Donald Trump's Childhood and Authoritarianism
02:01 Weird Moments in the Presidential Campaign
Note: I edited both the Carlson and Noem clips here for length but without changing the meaning. I felt that playing the clips in full was just too inhumane.
05:54 Tucker Carlson's “Daddy’s Home” Speech
07:05 The Role of Punishment in Behavior
08:19 Positive Reinforcement in Dog Training
11:28 The Importance of Good Dog Trainers
13:02 Book Excerpt
Links:
Boston Globe article I wrote about Romney and his dog in 2012 (https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2012/05/12/animal-welfare-matter-perspective/svHGwYm1ySStcy71UsfDzI/story.html)
Mary Trump’s Too Much and Never Enough (https://www.amazon.com/s?k=too+much+and+never&hvadid=570437041410&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9198132&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=9363389111012905557&hvtargid=kwd-918535063643&hydadcr=27861_14512710&tag=googhydr-20&ref=pd_sl_8vr7g1ahk4_e)
Youtube: Dog Bonking (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=dog+bonking)
Audio montage clips:
Trump “Eating The Dogs” (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5llMaZ80ErY)
RFK Jr whale incident (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM82HFQllNs&t)
RFK Jr denies eating dog (https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EvXe01qLM_0)
RFK Jr bear cub story (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0zcahPwD2k&t=3)
Kristi Noem reads from her book (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B2Gi4aP_9s&t=)
JD Vance on peanut the squirrel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSSxYOvlYMA&t=1s)
JD Vance on cat ladies (https://youtu.be/qBTz3n9ZzPA?si=2dnCPyWA3XZsWB3y)
Tucker Carlsons’s Georgia Speech (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLgcLBFKrdM)
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31 Oct 2024
Dogmas & Dog Ewoks: How Halloween can polarize dog lovers
Everything seems crazy and awful right now in the world and then, on top of it all, people are… putting costumes on dogs.
Anamarie and I delve into the weirdness and ethics of dressing up dogs. Additionally, we talk about Brian Hare and Vanessa Wood’s Atlantic article about a third wive of domestication in dogs, and the Monks of New Skete’s feature in the Associated Press. Ultimately, my 5-year-old sums up the spirit of the episode by sharing her own impromptu thoughts on how we should consider our dogs comfort above all else.
Notes:
Join me this Saturday 11/2 at The Museum Of The Dog where I will be interviewed by Alex Pasternack of Fast Company, and signing books and (https://museumofthedog.org/mc-events/how-to-train-your-dog-with-love-science-with-author-annie-grossman/?mc_id=365)
Brian Hare and Vanessa Woods in the Atlantic (https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2024/10/service-dog-domestication-behavior/680240/)
The Monks of New Skete in the AP (https://apnews.com/article/puppies-monks-new-york-orthodox-christian-dog-training-breeding-ee03e64059cc4479d0fc6fca10f77521)
Genealogy of Obedience (https://www.amazon.com/Genealogy-Obedience-Human-Animal-Studies-Alterator/dp/9004380280) by Justyna Wlodarczyk (https://www.amazon.com/Genealogy-Obedience-Human-Animal-Studies-Alterator/dp/9004380280)
The Ewok Costume (https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/pets/2024/10/19/nyc-dog-halloween-costumes-parade/75690437007/)
Time stamps:
00:00 Halloween cnversations with a three year old
00:49 Upcoming Events and Announcements
02:32 Dog Halloween Parade Concerns
06:57 Dog Training Philosophies and Stereotypes
12:00 Service Dogs and Domestication
16:00 The Monks of New Skete in the news
31:31 Halloween conversations with a five year old
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30 Sept 2024
What happens when you publish a paper showing e-collars can be effective? Anamarie replies to negative feedback to her study. Plus: Annie tries to buy one.
Anamarie and I recorded this episode separately because we had different things we wanted to communicate in a format that wasn't really right for conversation.
Me first: What if you're someone who has strong feelings about putting dogs in shock collars and... one of your friends publishes a paper on research she did that involved putting shock collars on dogs?
What if that person is your podcast host?
Hi, I'm Annie, and this is my life.
The day after I publish a book that is essentially a paean to Positive Reinforcement dog training rooted in science and research, a major journal publishes a paper (rooted in science and research!) that says that using a shock collar may be more effective when teaching a dog to stop chasing than reward-based training would be in the same period of time. Anamarie was one of the authors.
Do you hop on the bandwagon and hate on this person?
Do you yell at the angry mob -- which contains many of your colleagues -- to stop hating on her because she is someone you respect and love?
Do you hit your desk on the head several times because you know that 99.9 percent of US dog owners don't care about the studies or the ethics and will never consult with experts but are going to use these things anyway because THEY'RE COMPLETELY LEGAL?
Do you ... buy a shock collar?
Join me as I confirm all my worst fears during a series of phone calls with shock collar retailers.
In the 2nd part of the episode, Anamarie responds to attacks on the study that has been the source of so much criticism in the Positive Reinforcement dog training community over the last few weeks.
You can read the study here:
More:
GET MY BOOK! Upload a receipt and I'll send you a clicker and a sticker. (http://schoolforthedogs.com/book)
Testing dog shock collars on young humans (https://youtu.be/GgFS4SMe0SY)Youtube compilation by me (from 2011)
Add link to study
https://www.mdpi.com/2076-2615/14/18/2632 (http://schoolforthedogs.com/book)
Add link to the study about no one using trainers
https://www.mdpi.com/2076-2615/14/9/1310 (http://schoolforthedogs.com/book)
Other links?
How big of a money making market the ecollar industry is:
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/dog-shock-collar-market-growth-trends-forecast (http://schoolforthedogs.com/book)
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