
“HR Heretics” | How CPOs, CHROs, Founders, and Boards Build High Performing Companies
Hosted by Kelli Dragovich and Nolan Church · hrheretics.substack.com
4.9from 52 ratings
- 209
- Episodes
- 25
- Transcribed
- 52
- Ratings
- 2023
- First episode
About “HR Heretics” | How CPOs, CHROs, Founders, and Boards Build High Performing Companies
After a decade+ of “blitz-scaling” companies, HR, talent, and People leaders now face an uncertain economy that has already seen big booms and busts. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners – Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. This show is for those who are ready to ditch conventional wisdom and figure out from first principles what works for their culture, business model, and industry, with the goal of building a resilient and enduring company. You’ll come away with real guidance for seeing around corners, building enduring companies, and carving out an impactful career – plus a newly-honed bullshit detector. Topics frequently touched on in this season include: building high performing cultures, compensation negotiation, performance reviews, company design, equity, M&As, recruiting the best talent, and how to manage your own psychology as a people leader. hrheretics.substack.com (https://hrheretics.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast)
- Publisher
- hrheretics.substack.com
- Category
- business
- Language
- en
- Explicit
- No
- First episode
- 19 Oct 2023
- Latest episode
- 23 Dec 2025
Latest episodes
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23 Dec 2025TRANSCRIPT
The 2026 Recruiting Reckoning & AI Predictions

18 Dec 2025TRANSCRIPT
Inside Executive Coaching with Nathan Tanner: Real Revenue, Real Clients, Real Strategy

16 Dec 2025TRANSCRIPT
Blitzscaling's Chris Yeh on Infinite Learning, Staying Cool, and Building Strategic Networks
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The 2026 Recruiting Reckoning & AI Predictions
Published 23 Dec 2025 · Transcript excerpt
[…] Like, if you are, if you're in that stage of life, it's like the time that there'll be a lot of people who decide they need to get need to get in the game. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's right. All right. Let me give you mine. So my first one is. AI becomes the de facto first screen for inbound and candidates will love it. So everybody knows in amounts of mess, like with any company that has a brand. I can't tell you like everybody who I talked to is like, I don't check my buckets. I mean, this is going back to when I was at Google in 2012. It was the joke. We ended up hiring like a team offshore. […]
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- Bryan Power
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