Human Centered

About Human Centered

At VML, it is our unique ability to integrate our BX, CX and Commerce practices - creating connected brands to drive growth - ultimately combining real customer benefits with a deep brand bond, consistently pushing to exceed customer expectations and deliver unique and generous experiences. On Human Centered, we explore how brands – both large and small – are creating meaningful customer experiences, and discuss how professionals like you can tap into industry best practices to create value and gain traction in transforming your business.

Publisher

VML

Category

business · business

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

11 Nov 2020

Latest episode

14 Oct 2026

Latest episodes

7 of 47 episodes have a transcript.

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   14 Oct 2026TRANSCRIPT

   Engineering the Fan Experience: How the Kansas City Chiefs Scaled CX Beyond the Stadium | Lara Krug

   Host Nick Brunker interviews Lara Krug, EVP & Chief Media and Marketing Officer for the Kansas City Chiefs, about engineering a fan experience that scales CX beyond the stadium.

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   1 Oct 2026TRANSCRIPT

   Signal Discipline: How Brands Use AI & Customer Memory to Build Trust | Adam Troyak

   Host Nick Brunker interviews Adam Troyak about Signal Discipline, revealing how brands leverage AI and customer memory to build trust by strategically managing data, not just collecting it.

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   30 Mar 2026TRANSCRIPT

   The Content Consistency Paradox: Is Hyper-Personalization Fracturing Your Brand? | Chase Howell, Group Director Content Strategy at VML

   Episode Summary: For years, the "segment of one" has been the holy grail of digital marketing. Thanks to AI and programmatic media, brands finally have the technical capability to deliver hyper-personalized content to thousands of micro-audiences at scale. But this incredible power comes with a dark side that few marketers are talking about: the erosion of shared brand identity. When an algorithm serves 10,000 different versions of a brand to 10,000 different people, does that brand still stand for anything collectively? In Episode 45 of Human-Centered, host Nick Brunker sits down with Chase Howell, Group Director of Content Strategy at VML, to unpack the "Content Consistency Paradox." Chase argues that our obsession with one-to-one marketing is quietly fracturing the cultural, communal moments that build true brand legacy. Iconic campaigns like Coca-Cola's holiday ads or Nike's "Just Do It" work specifically because they represent a shared truth that we all recognize together. To solve this paradox, Chase explains why the traditional model of brand governance—relying on static brand books and manual approval of individual assets—is completely dead in the age of generative AI. Instead, brands must shift their governance upstream. Marketing teams can no longer police the output; they must learn how to govern the systems, rules, and AI prompts that generate the content. Chase breaks down his actionable three-layer framework for scaling personalization without losing your brand's soul: The Core: The non-negotiable essence of the brand that AI is never allowed to touch (like flagship campaigns and cultural tentpoles). The Adaptive: Content scaled by AI, but tightly governed by human logic and strict channel rules. The Dynamic: Real-time, automated personalization operating inside a highly controlled sandbox. The two also discuss the nuances of "deep consistency" versus surface-level consistency, how to translate fuzzy brand adjectives into rigid AI instructions, and the crucial moments when brands should actually say no to personalization to avoid crossing the line into creepy territory. If you are struggling to balance the demand for high-volume content with the need for brand integrity, this episode is a masterclass in modern content strategy. Timestamped Chapters [00:00] Intro [02:06] Meet Chase Howell: From sports journalism to Group Director of Content Strategy. [03:22] The Content Consistency Paradox: How AI is breaking shared brand experiences. [05:43] The cultural power of the "Campfire Moment" (Coke, Nike, Ford). [08:00] Why traditional brand books and manual creative approvals are dead. [11:00] Surface-level consistency (fonts/colors) vs. deep brand intent. [13:00] The Spotify Wrapped example: Hyper-personalization wrapped in a communal event. [14:28] Translating soft brand adjectives into actionable AI constraints. [16:15] The 3-Layer Content Framework: The Core, The Adaptive, and The Dynamic. [18:50] When to say NO to personalization and the danger of false urgency. [20:40] Applying the 3-Layer framework to modern web strategy and UX. [23:15] Who owns brand integrity in an automated world? [24:25] Rapid Fire: The verdict on automated balls and strikes in baseball. Links Mentioned in the Episode Read Chase's Article: The Content Consistency Paradox: Scaling Personalization Without Fracturing Your Brand (https://www.vml.com/insight/unlock-ai-personalization-content-consistency-paradox?utm_source=linkedin&utm_medium=organic_social&utm_campaign=unlock_ai_personalization_content_consistency_paradox&utm_id=unlock_demand_2026) Explore more about our CX work and Enterprise Solutions at VML.com (https://www.vml.com/) Guest Bio: Chase Howell is the Group Director of Content Strategy at VML, leading content strategy for premier clients across the US digital ecosystem. His career is defined by a slow march from "words to systems," beginning as a sports journalist for ESPN and the Cincinnati Enquirer before shifting to data, analytics, and brand marketing. Today, Chase sits at the collision point of brand identity, technology, and personalized customer experiences. If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe to Human-Centered on your favorite podcast platform and leave us a review! Your feedback helps us bring more incredible insights from the top minds in experience strategy.

Inside a recent episode

Engineering the Fan Experience: How the Kansas City Chiefs Scaled CX Beyond the Stadium | Lara Krug

Published 14 Oct 2026 · Transcript excerpt

[…] That's so fun. And you started to go down this road with the customer. Who is the customer actually? Because I think this is where sports breaks every model. The rest of us tend to work from, right? In our worlds, in traditional marketing, we spend careers and enormous budgets trying to manufacture a fraction of the attachment you guys have. Because it is that legacy brand and it's obviously the NFL. So start me here. Talk about the customer. And as your strategy was being developed, is it season ticket members in Kansas City? You've got fans globally like Frankfurt, who will never maybe even ever set foot at Arrowhead. […]

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• Lara Krug
• Adam Troyak
• Erik Haines
• Heather Physioc
• Jenny Collopy

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