What does justice look like, beyond the confines of State-administered carceral punishment? In Imagine Justice we hear true stories, told by the people who lived them, of irreparable harm followed by reconciliation.
These stories invite us into the possibility- and reality- of a justice that is co-created by victims, perpetrators, and survivors of violence and their communities. Each of our storytellers navigates toward peace differently, but they all give us insights that can transform the way we think about and approach justice.
Imagine Justice is created by musician, songwriter, and artist Zeo Boekbinder, whose interest in exploring processes of Transformative and Restorative Justice is informed by their time teaching and writing songs alongside incarcerated men at New Folsom Prison, which culminated in the creation of The Prison Music Project.
To submit a story for a future episode, visit https://zeoboekbinder.com/podcast
To support the show for as little as $1 per month, visit https://www.patreon.com/zoeboekbinder
Season 2 music by Katy Guillen and the Drive. https://katyguillenmusic.com/ (https://katyguillenmusic.com/)
Note: Zeo has released a lot of music under a different spelling of their name. Zoe and Zeo are the same person. Call them Zeo (like Leo), thanks!
Bonus Episode: Extended Interview with Thomas Walker, Peacemaker
Thomas Walker was interviewed in Season 1, Episode 2. This is the extended interview. There was too much to include while focusing on Rachel's story but his interview is worth hearing in entirety. So much wisdom and experience.
8 Oct 2026
October 7 - Special Episode
I woke up too early today, October 7, which marks three years since the genocide in Gaza began. I needed to write and this is what came out.
19 May 2026
S2:E5 Amanda from the Ashes - Season Finale
In this episode, Zeo speaks with Amanda Carrasco, who survived childhood sexual abuse and attempted murder. There are no detailed descriptions of violence. Amanda’s book, Becoming The Brave One: My Journey to Justice, is available in online bookstores. Here is a link to her website. This is the last episode in Season 2. If you know of a story that would be good for this podcast, please submit it here. If you enjoy the podcast, please leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, share with f...
12 May 2026
Dr. Angela F***ING Davis
I’m still pinching myself that I got to interview Dr. Angela Y Davis. What an incredible honor. This interview originally aired back in 2020 when I was part of a collective called the Prison Music Project and we were releasing an album of songs written by and with men who were incarcerated, called Long Time Gone (on all the streaming apps). So much of what Dr. Davis says in the interview is still (or even more) relevant in 2026. We are blessed to have her in our timeline. To find a list...
12 May 2026
PATREON PREVIEW | Thomas Walker, Navajo Peacemaker
If you have not listened to Season 1, Episode 2 (Rachel and Zaadii), I encourage going back to doing so. Thomas Walker was the peacemaker who facilitated the healing process in that story. I spoke with him about peacemaking and wanted to share more with you. You can hear this full bonus episode, which is over a half hour long, on Patreon. Subscriptions start at $1 per month. Please support the show if you can. I currently pay for this show out of my own pocket, as well as doing the labo...
5 May 2026
Marylyn and Her Neighbor
Marylyn Tesconi speaks about sexual trauma she experienced as a child. The descriptions of sexual abuse occur from 6:38 - 7:27. To support the show, please visit: https://www.patreon.com/zoeboekbinder
28 Apr 2026
What is Restorative Justice, really?
On this show, we talk about different forms of justice outside the criminal legal system. The one most commonly talked about on the show is Restorative Justice. I had the honor of speaking with three people who are knowledgeable on the topic, including Howard Zehr, who is considered one of the people who introduced it in the 1970’s (though is has indigenous roots and existed long before). Howard Zehr wrote a book called The Little Book of Restorative Justice, among many others. To learn more ...
23 Apr 2026
Season 2 Teaser
A little sample of what is to come in Season 2 of Imagine Justice.
21 Apr 2026
Taliesin’s Rainbow
In this episode, Zeo speaks with the mother and sister of a victim of violence. Taliesin had an encounter with a stranger, who was harassing two young women on public transit, and was killed. (The descriptions of violence in this episode are brief and not detailed.) To learn more about Taliesin, visit the website that is dedicated to him: wechoose.love
13 May 2025
Important Update
Thanks so much to all the listeners. Please help the show continue by sharing with your communities. Please leave a rating and review. To submit a story or send a tip or link, visit www.zeoboekbinder.com/podcast The show is on hiatus while I search for more stories to share. I sat on these four episodes for years because I wanted to have more before release. Eventually I just had to release them and hope that, in doing so, more stories would come my way. If you want to learn more about holist...
6 May 2025
Stacey Ann Lannert
When Stacey was 18 years old, she shot and killed her father who had been sexually abusing her for many years. The night she shot him he had just abused her little sister for the first time. She was convicted of murder and sentenced to life without parole. Her story is powerful. She wrote a memoir, called Redemption, which is available anywhere books are sold. Here is a link to her book on goodreads. To submit a story for the podcast, visit https://zeoboekbinder.com/podcast
29 Apr 2025
Jane and the Stranger
Jane Piper survived something so rare and horrific, an attack by a total stranger. Being a survivor led her down a path of learning about forgiveness and repair from harm. She started to volunteer in prison, working with men who had committed similar violence to what she endured. To submit a story for the podcast, visit https://zeoboekbinder.com/podcast
22 Apr 2025
Cheryl and Lester
In 1991, Cheryl survived a deadly home invasion. Years later she sits face to face with Lester, one of the men who broke into her home that night, leaving her husband dead and her daughter sexually assaulted. Hear interviews with both Cheryl and Lester, and learn how they became friends and how Cheryl is fighting to get him out of prison. The song after the credits was written and performed by Zeo Boekbinder and can be found on their album, Wildflower To submit a story for the podcast, ...
22 Apr 2025
Rachel and the Magical Little Man
In 2015 Rachel and two of her kids were hit by a distracted driver. Her 3 year-old son, Zaadii, was killed. Rachel asked the woman who was driving the car to enter into a Navajo Peacemaking process, which brought them face-to-face. This is a powerful story about loss and forgiveness. To listen to or purchase Jonah Littlesunday's song, Zaadii's Dance, visit https://canyonrecords.bandcamp.com/track/zaadii-s-dance To learn more about Sihasin, the band behind the song at the end of the epis...
16 Mar 2025
Episode 1 Releases April 22!
This is a preview of Episode 1 of Imagine Justice, a brand new podcast! Episodes 1+2 will be available April 22. The following episodes will be released weekly on Tuesdays.
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Apple Podcasts (US)
5.0 / 5
16 ratings
Spotify
5.0 / 5
6 ratings
Podcast Authority Score: 29 / 100
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YouTube
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Engagement
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