In Depth: Psychoanalysis in the Academy
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<p>“In Depth: Psychoanalysis in the Academy” is a podcast of the Academics for the Advancement of Psychodynamic Psychology (A2P2). We are a group of scholars, clinicians, and educators working to promote psychodynamic research, training, and practice in the field of clinical psychology. This podcast features insightful interviews with psychoanalytic academics who are actively shaping the future of psychotherapy and psychology education. </p><p>If you’re drawn to depth-oriented thinking, critical scholarship, and the enduring relevance of the unconscious, welcome! You’re in the right place. Through these regular conversations, you’ll gain insight into how psychodynamic theory and practice intersect with contemporary academic life. </p><p>A2P2 is a community-driven organization working to shape the future of psychoanalytic education, from undergraduate study to postdoctoral training. Our projects focus on improving mentorship and educational resources, supporting psychoanalytic research, and expanding public discourse around psychodynamic training.</p><p>If this work resonates with you, visit <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://a2p2group.org" target="_blank">a2p2group.org</a> or reach out to us at <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:asquaredpsquared@gmail.com" target="_blank">asquaredpsquared@gmail.com</a> to get involved. We’re actively looking for volunteers and we especially encourage students to participate.</p><p>Follow us on Instagram and X (@asquaredpsquared) and LinkedIn (@a2p2) to keep up with our work. </p>
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Recent Episodes
July 8, 2026
Bridging the Gap: How Research and Practice Diverge in Psychology with Dr. Jonathan Shedler
<p>This interview with Dr. Jonathan Shedler explores the systemic issues in psychology and psychotherapy, including the research-practice divide, the rise of CBT, and the challenges facing psychoanalysis. Gain insights into how these trends impact clinical practice, research validity, and public understanding.</p><p></p><p><b>Chapters</b></p><p>00:00 Introduction to Dr. Jonathan Shedler</p><p>01:12 The research-practice divide in psychology</p><p>02:26 Historical roots of clinical psychology post-WWII</p><p>09:18 Limitations of psychotherapy research methods</p><p>16:29 Influence of politics and ideology on psychology</p><p>26:43 Psychoanalysis' contribution to its own decline</p><p>30:04 The potential for psychoanalysis to meet public hunger</p><p>38:32 Personality and holistic approaches to treatment</p><p>40:28 The hierarchy of evidence and scientific methodology</p><p>50:37 Closing remarks and hope for the future</p><p></p><p><b>Resources</b></p><ul><li><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/releases/amp-65-2-98.pdf" target="_blank">'The Efficacy of Psychodynamic Psychotherapy' </a></li><li><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://swapassessment.org/" target="_blank">Shedler-Westen Assessment Procedure </a></li><li><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.guilford.com/books/Psychodynamic-Diagnostic-Manual/Lingiardi-McWilliams/9781462558711?srsltid=AfmBOooRD37n9dVUSYvRTXgvvrY4ijDN5NrR7-jeLi08qVkzNDHk4Pj9" target="_blank">Psychodynamic Diagnostic Manual </a></li><li><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366(24)00356-0/abstract#:~:text=The%20meta%2Danalysis%20showed%20that,into%20understanding%20dimensions%20of%20change" target="_blank">Client-identified outcomes of individual psychotherapy: a qualitative meta-analysis</a></li><li><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://jonathanshedler.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Shedler-That-was-then-this-is-now-R10.pdf" target="_blank">“That was then, this is now: Psychoanalytic psychotherapy for the rest of us” </a></li><li><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/reichenbach/" target="_blank">Hans Reichenbach's philosophy of science</a></li><li><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://philpapers.org/archive/RICEAP-4" target="_blank"><i>Experience and Prediction</i> </a></li><li><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://www.zeww.uni-hannover.de/019_Hoyningen_ctxt_disc.pdf" target="_blank">Context of Discovery and Context of Justification </a></li><li><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.com/Schopenhauers-Porcupines-Intimacy-Dilemmas-Psychotherapy/dp/0465042872" target="_blank">Schopenhauer's Porcupines</a></li></ul><p></p><p><b>Guest Links</b></p><ul><li><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://jonathanshedler.com/" target="_blank">Professional Website </a></li><li><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=_qT8drIAAAAJ&hl=en" target="_blank">Publications</a></li><li><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-shedler-932b72140" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></li><li><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://jonathanshedler.substack.com/" target="_blank">Substack</a></li><li><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://profiles.ucsf.edu/jonathan.shedler" target="_blank">Faculty Page </a></li></ul><p></p><p><b>Credits:</b></p><p><i>Host & Executive Producer</i> - Bevin Campbell, Psy.D.</p><p><i>Guest</i> - Dr. Jonathan Shedler</p><p><i>Audio Editor & Co-Producer</i> - Ellis Feldman</p><p><i>Composer, Writer, & Co-Producer</i> - Brian Mageo-Sausser</p>
July 1, 2026
The Future of Psychoanalysis in Academia: Insights from Dr. Paul Wachtel
<p>In this interview, Dr. Paul Wachtel discusses the evolution of psychoanalysis in academia, the importance of integration with other therapeutic approaches, and the future of psychotherapy research. He shares his personal journey, the challenges and opportunities in the field, and practical advice for aspiring psychoanalysts.</p><p></p><p><b>Chapters</b></p><p>00:00 Introduction to Psychoanalysis in Academia</p><p>02:35 Dr. Paul Wachtel's Academic Journey</p><p>04:29 The Evolution of Psychoanalysis in Academia</p><p>08:30 Integration of Psychoanalysis and Other Therapies</p><p>14:00 Current State of Psychoanalysis</p><p>16:03 Personal Reflections on Psychoanalysis' Journey</p><p>22:26 Research in Psychoanalysis</p><p>29:17 Students' Perspectives on Psychoanalysis</p><p>32:11 Advice for Aspiring Psychoanalysts</p><p>43:33 A Day in the Life of Dr. Wachtel</p><p></p><p><b>Resources</b></p><ul><li><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.com/Psychoanalysis-Behavior-Relational-Psychotherapy-Integration/dp/1557984093" target="_blank">Psychoanalysis, Behavior Therapy, and the Relational World (Psychotherapy Integration) </a></li><li><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1999-02194-000" target="_blank">Race in the mind of America: Breaking the vicious circle between Blacks and Whites </a></li><li><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.guilford.com/books/Relational-Theory-and-the-Practice-of-Psychotherapy/Paul-Wachtel/9781609180454?srsltid=AfmBOoo0MQuhTpbVRqi6IKFfKwmsjy1r8tegqwBwdOgXO75n28rijg5K" target="_blank">Relational Theory and the Practice of Psychotherapy </a></li><li><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://archive.org/details/therapeuticcommu0000wach_k3i4" target="_blank">Therapeutic communication: knowing what to say when</a></li><li><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2010-19900-000" target="_blank">Inside the session: What really happens in psychotherapy</a></li><li><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.amazon.com/Poverty-Affluence-Psychological-Portrait-American/dp/1632460211" target="_blank">The Poverty of Affluence </a></li><li><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2014-16201-000" target="_blank">Cyclical psychodynamics and the contextual self</a></li><li><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.guilford.com/books/Making-Room-for-the-Disavowed/Paul-Wachtel/9781462553174?srsltid=AfmBOoqmx8Bb_IrGhkO6k7n6NpnyEfGbUWw_BSArI1sD-XwSvsFqFD3j" target="_blank">Making Room for the Disavowed: Reclaiming the Self in Psychotherapy </a></li><li><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.ackerman.org/" target="_blank">Ackerman Institute for the Family</a></li><li><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.sepiweb.org/" target="_blank">Society for the Exploration of Psychotherapy Integration </a></li><li><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://hewittlab.sites.olt.ubc.ca/files/2020/04/Westen-1998.pdf" target="_blank">Westen (1998) - The Scientific Legacy of Sigmund Freud: Toward a Psychodynamically Informed Psychological Science</a></li></ul><p></p><p><b>Guest Links</b></p><ul><li><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.ccny.cuny.edu/profiles/paul-wachtel?srsltid=AfmBOooryKTyrLnBTEXNUTte1Y7W7GTB8-wA5hruKspVffvwtVv2Akxp" target="_blank">Faculty Page</a></li><li><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Paul-Wachtel-2" target="_blank">Publications</a></li></ul><p></p><p><b>Credits:</b></p><p><i>Host & Executive Producer</i> - Bevin Campbell, Psy.D.</p><p><i>Guest</i> - Dr. Paul Wachtel</p><p><i>Audio Editor & Co-Producer</i> - Ellis Feldman</p><p><i>Composer, Writer, & Co-Producer</i> - Brian Mageo-Sausser</p>
June 24, 2026
Integrating Psychoanalysis and Quantitative Research in Psychology with Dr. Chris Hopwood
<p>In this interview, Dr. Chris Hopwood shares his journey into academia, his integration of psychodynamic and interpersonal theories into quantitative research, and his perspectives on personality assessment, clinical orientation, and the role of psychology in addressing global issues like climate change and animal rights.</p><p></p><p><b>Chapters</b></p><p>00:00 Introduction to Dr. Chris Hopwood</p><p>01:55 The Journey into Academia</p><p>04:08 Discovering Psychoanalytic Theory</p><p>06:30 Interpersonal Theory and Its Impact</p><p>08:49 Debates in Personality Assessment</p><p>10:40 The Evolution of Personality Disorders</p><p>12:54 Understanding Personality Functioning</p><p>15:14 The Intersection of Personality and Clinical Psychology</p><p>16:40 The Importance of Theoretical Orientation</p><p>18:58 The Role of Scientific Method in Psychoanalysis</p><p>20:38 The Future of Psychological Theory</p><p>22:33 Experiences in Zurich and European Perspectives</p><p>25:19 The State of Psychoanalysis in Academia</p><p>27:38 The Relevance of Theoretical Orientation</p><p>29:41 Human-Animal Relations and Moral Crisis</p><p>31:53 Addressing Climate Change in Clinical Practice</p><p>33:12 Confronting Eco-Anxiety and Human Cruelty</p><p>36:50 Navigating Academic Paths and Choices</p><p>41:52 Balancing Academia and Personal Life</p><p>44:38 The Role of Psychoanalysis in Modern Psychology</p><p>51:26 Exploring Human-Animal Relations</p><p>55:08 Addressing Climate Anxiety in Therapy</p><p></p><p><b>Resources</b></p><ul><li><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://phair.psychopen.eu/index.php/phair" target="_blank">Psychology of Human-Animal Intergroup Relations </a></li><li><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.guilford.com/books/Major-Theories-of-Personality-Disorder/Lenzenweger-Clarkin/9781593851088?srsltid=AfmBOopLdgrlplw47dmqlz1tkn_F30_rXMWDj79rtGUUFfSEYXbMjg1H" target="_blank">Major Theories of Personality Disorder </a></li><li><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://sitarsociety.org/" target="_blank">Society for Interpersonal Theory and Research </a></li><li><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://medschool.harvard.edu/" target="_blank">Harvard Medical School Psychiatry Department</a></li><li><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Robert-Karen" target="_blank">Robert Karen’s work</a></li><li><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=ef7-oHkAAAAJ&hl=en" target="_blank">Les Morey’s work</a></li><li><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2003-04682-009" target="_blank">“Interpersonal theory of personality” by Aaron Pincus</a></li><li><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://personality.faculty.ucdavis.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/467/2017/08/Pincus-Hopwood-2012-interpersonal-Oxford.Widiger.pdf" target="_blank">“A Contemporary Interpersonal Model of Personality Pathology and Personality Disorder” by Pincus and Hopwood</a></li></ul><p></p><p><b>Guest links</b></p><ul><li><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.psychology.uzh.ch/en/areas/sob/perspsy/team/hopwood.html" target="_blank">Faculty page</a></li><li><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=10KBQ-IAAAAJ&hl=en" target="_blank">Publications</a> </li></ul><p></p><p><b>Credits:</b></p><p><i>Host & Executive Producer</i> - Bevin Campbell, Psy.D.</p><p><i>Guest</i> - Dr. Chris Hopwood</p><p><i>Audio Editor & Co-Producer</i> - Ellis Feldman</p><p><i>Composer, Writer, & Co-Producer</i> - Brian Mageo-Sausser</p>
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<p>“In Depth: Psychoanalysis in the Academy” is a podcast of the Academics for the Advancement of Psychodynamic Psychology (A2P2). We are a group of scholars, clinicians, and educators working to promote psychodynamic research, training, and practice in the field of clinical psychology. This podcast features insightful interviews with psychoanalytic academics who are actively shaping the future of psychotherapy and psychology education. </p><p>If you’re drawn to depth-oriented thinking, critical scholarship, and the enduring relevance of the unconscious, welcome! You’re in the right place. Through these regular conversations, you’ll gain insight into how psychodynamic theory and practice intersect with contemporary academic life. </p><p>A2P2 is a community-driven organization working to shape the future of psychoanalytic education, from undergraduate study to postdoctoral training. Our projects focus on improving mentorship and educational resources, supporting psychoanalytic research, and expanding public discourse around psychodynamic training.</p><p>If this work resonates with you, visit <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://a2p2group.org" target="_blank">a2p2group.org</a> or reach out to us at <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="mailto:asquaredpsquared@gmail.com" target="_blank">asquaredpsquared@gmail.com</a> to get involved. We’re actively looking for volunteers and we especially encourage students to participate.</p><p>Follow us on Instagram and X (@asquaredpsquared) and LinkedIn (@a2p2) to keep up with our work. </p> - How often does this podcast release new episodes?
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