Welcome to In Doctrine Nation, the official podcast of the North American Values Institute (NAVI). Each bi-weekly episode, host Josh Weiner uncovers how radical ideologies take root in K–12 classrooms and higher education. Featuring powerful stories from students, parents, and educators, the podcast reveals what’s happening behind the scenes in American education—and what can be done to restore balance and truth.
Georgia Mom Defeats Online Anti-Israel Curriculum in Classrooms w/ Laura Zhiss
Laura Zhiss recounts her successful efforts to remove biased anti-Israel curriculum from her child's Georgia classroom by organizing parents and advocating for accurate instruction, demonstrating the power of parental involvement in education; this is an interview.
30 Oct 2025
PeerK12 Advocacy after October 7th w/ Nicole Bernstein & Tamar Caspi [Part 2]
Nicole Bernstein and Tamar Caspi of PeerK12 explore the rise of antisemitism in K-12 schools following October 7th, sharing strategies for parents and educators to advocate for Jewish students in this interview.
14 Aug 2025
Peer K12 Moms Fight for Jewish Civil Rights w/ Nicole Bernstein & Tamar Caspi
Host Josh Weiner interviews Peer K12 co-founders Nicole Bernstein and Tamar Caspi about combating Jew-hatred in K-12 education and advocating for Jewish students' civil rights.
31 Jul 2025
Teacher Turns Activist Against Extremism in NYC w/ Karen Feldman
Karen Feldman, a veteran history teacher and activist, discusses the rise of antisemitism and social justice extremism in New York City public schools, advocating for educational reform in this interview.
17 Jul 2025
Jewish Mom Leaves ‘Woke’ School for Florida
Tracy Wolfe recounts her experiences with anti-Semitism and DEI programs at New Trier High School, which motivated her family's move to Florida for a better educational environment in this interview.
12 Jun 2025
The Impact of Social Media on Historical Literacy w/ Prof David Halahmy
Professor David Halahmy explores social media's impact on historical literacy and the evolution of history education, emphasizing critical thinking and engaging diverse perspectives in this interview.
5 Jun 2025
Understanding Religion: The Importance of Dialogue w/ Prof Nathan Katz - IDN Ep 7
Professor Nathan Katz examines the comparative studies of Judaism and Hinduism, highlighting the importance of dialogue and curiosity in fostering understanding among different cultures and religions in this interview.
Parent activist Sharon Sorkin recounts to Josh Weiner her journey into school board politics after October 7th, emphasizing community mobilization and collaborative strategies to advocate for educational excellence.
22 May 2025
October 8 Film: The Fight for the Soul of America w/ Wendy Sachs & Nimrod Erez - IDN Ep 6
The conversation delves into the film 'October 8', which explores the rise of antisemitism in America, particularly on college campuses, following the October 7th attacks by Hamas. The filmmakers discuss the ideological roots of this antisemitism, the role of social media in shaping perceptions, and the influence of K-12 education. They also examine the implications of foreign funding in academia and the broader societal impacts of these issues. This conversation delves into the themes of media bias, the impact of anti-Israel sentiment on youth, the intersection of anti-Zionism and antisemitism, the importance of education and historical context, and reflections on the filmmaking journey. The speakers discuss how media narratives shape public perception, particularly among young people, and the need for educational materials to address misconceptions about Jewish identity and history. They also reflect on the challenges and inspirations encountered during the filmmaking process.
Guests
Wendy Sachs, is the director of the film - October 8. She is also the author of Fearless and Free: How Smart Women Pivot and Relaunch Their Careers, the primer on managing personal disruption for women, and How She Really Does It: Secrets of Successful Stay-at-Work Moms. Follow Wendy on X - @wsachs
Nimrod Erez, is one of the producers and editor of the film- October 8. Nostalgic by nature, he is ever curious about and finds interest in people's stories - and the storyteller that he is, all the while finding the best way to retell them.
Follow Nimrod’s work on IMDb -https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1628619/
Watch the October 8 film at
Website -https://www.october8film.com/watch-at-home/
Amazon -https://www.amazon.com/October-8-Wendy-Sachs/dp/B0D3JJ67TD
Apple - https://tv.apple.com/us/movie/october-8/umc.cmc.3t6h2xx8d0im7h2lyzo3ep3cg
Socials
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/october8thefilm/
X- https://x.com/october8thefilm
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/October8TheFilm/
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14 May 2025
Student Runs for School Board : A Young Voice for Change - Jacob Rudolph
Jacob Rudolph, a 17-year-old running for school board in Lower Merion, shares his experiences and advocacy for special education and combating antisemitism in schools. He discusses his personal journey with ADHD, the challenges he faced in accessing special education services, and the systemic issues within the school district. Jacob also highlights the prevalence of antisemitism in his school community and the need for a cultural shift to address these issues. He advocates for a more inclusive curriculum that respects diverse perspectives and emphasizes the importance of treating all students with dignity and respect.
Guest Bio
Jacob Rudolph, 17, is Lower Merion’s youngest-ever school-board candidate. A twice-exceptional graduate who spent two years fighting for his ADHD services, he now campaigns—on both party tickets—to overhaul special education, stamp out antisemitism, and restore a students-first culture.
8 May 2025
Understanding Modern Antisemitism: A Cultural Shift w/ Prof Rona Kaufman - IDN Ep 5
Prof Rona Kaufman shares her deeply personal journey in combating antisemitism, reflecting on generational trauma and the evolving nature of antisemitism in modern contexts. She discusses the disconnect between American Jews and Israel, the critical role of education in addressing antisemitism, and the troubling manifestations of antisemitism in academia and law schools. Kaufman argues that anti-Zionism is a form of antisemitism and emphasizes the need for a cultural shift in understanding Jewish identity and history. She discusses the rise of anti-Zionism and its implications for Jewish identity and history, exploring the distortion of Jewish narratives in academia and the media, the challenges of combating antisemitism, and the importance of empowering the next generation with a truthful understanding of their heritage. The discussion emphasizes the need for a balanced perspective in a polarized world and the hope for a more informed and engaged future generation.
Guest Bio
Rona Kaufman is an associate professor at Thomas R. Kline School of Law of Duquesne University, where she teaches constitutional law, employment discrimination, family law, gender and the law, and children and the law.
Follow Prof Kaufman
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/prof.rona.kaufman/?hl=en
YouTube -@ronakaufman
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24 Apr 2025
Disrupting Antisemitism at Harvard : The Lawsuit w/ Shabbos Kestenbaum- IDN Ep 4
Shabbos Kestenbaum discusses the pervasive antisemitism at Harvard University, tracing its roots and the systemic issues that allow it to persist. He highlights the events of October 7th as a wake-up call for the broader American public regarding the hypocrisy and moral bankruptcy of elite institutions. Kestenbaum elaborates on his ongoing lawsuit against Harvard, aiming to hold the university accountable for civil rights violations against Jewish students. He connects the rise of antisemitism to anti-American sentiments and discusses the role of education, particularly in K-12 systems, in shaping these ideologies. The conversation emphasizes the need for systemic change and accountability in addressing these issues.
Guest Bio
Shabbos Kestenbaum is an American Jewish activist and graduate of Harvard Divinity School. He is known for leading a lawsuit against Harvard University, filed in January 2024, which alleges that the university failed to protect Jewish and Israeli students from antisemitic harassment and discrimination
10 Apr 2025
The Role of Education in Combating Anti-Semitism w/ Dr. Naya Lekht
Dr. Naya Lekht discusses her background, the rise of anti-Zionism on college campuses, and the impact of the BDS movement. She emphasizes the importance of understanding Jewish identity as it relates to anti-Zionism and the need for education to combat antisemitism. The discussion also covers the dangers of DEI initiatives, the role of the incoming administration in addressing these issues, and the empowerment of parents in advocating for their children's education. Dr. Lekht calls for a renewed focus on Jewish history and identity as a means to combat rising anti-Semitism.
Guest Bio
Naya Lekht was born in the former Soviet Union and came to the United States with her family in 1989. She received her PhD in Russian Literature and wrote her dissertation on Holocaust literature in the Soviet Union. Dr Naya has taught at both the collegiate and high school level courses on Russian literature, the Holocaust, Zionism, and history of Russian Jewry. She is the host of the podcast -Don't know much about.
20 Mar 2025
The Great Classroom Collapse: An In-Depth Discussion
Dr. Lance Izumi discusses the current state of K-12 education in America, highlighting the alarming statistics regarding student proficiency in reading and mathematics. He delves into the motivations behind his book, 'The Great Classroom Collapse,' and critiques the effectiveness of current educational methods, particularly the influence of constructivism and progressive education. The discussion also covers the role of school choice, the importance of foundational knowledge in teaching, and the need for educational reform to address systemic failures. In this conversation, Lance Izumi discusses the current state of education, particularly focusing on reading methodologies and the impact of progressive education. He highlights the shift away from ineffective teaching methods, the role of parents in advocating for better education, and the flaws in group learning approaches. The discussion also touches on the consequences of educational inequity and the need for reform in the system to better prepare students for future challenges.
6 Mar 2025
Disrupting the cycle of K-12 Education
Dr. Abraham Unger discusses the critical role of K-12 education in preparing students for the future, emphasizing the importance of classical education and the need for a return to foundational skills. He addresses the impact of ideological shifts in education, the role of parents in advocating for their children's education, and the significance of the middle class in driving educational reform. Dr. Unger also shares insights on recruiting quality educators and the importance of transparency in educational institutions, concluding with a hopeful outlook on the future of education and the potential for new models to emerge.
Rabbi Abraham Unger, Ph.D., is the founder and leader of Tikvah’s Millstone Scholars program and the founding head of Emet Classical Academy. Within one year, Emet opened both a middle school and high school to become one of Manhattan's most competitive private schools. With a diverse background in education, he has served as a university professor, Hebrew school principal, campus rabbi, and middle school teacher, creating various Jewish youth and outreach programs.
Formerly a Professor at Wagner College and a campus Hillel Rabbi, Rabbi Unger also held research positions at NYU and Fordham University. He is the author of three books and numerous articles. He earned his Ph.D. from Fordham University and Rabbinical ordination from Telz-Stone Kollel in Israel. Rabbi Unger’s broad experiences inform his commitment to preparing students for excellence in all aspects of life.
12 Feb 2025
Trailer
Welcome to In Doctrine Nation. The podcast that exposes and opposes radical ideology in K-12 schools and academia. We examine the illiberal education loop that is teaching students what to think and not how to think. We speak with leaders across the country about the politicized ideology that fosters indoctrination masquerading as education. We are Dr. Marcy Goldstein and Dr. Brandy Shufutinsky, your hosts. Join us and Americans nationwide! Podcast coming soon.
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Laura Zhiss
Nicole Bernstein
Tamar Caspi
Karen Feldman
Tracy Wolfe
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