- 11
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- 2025
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About In the Making by Michael R. Betz
In The Making is a podcast for anyone navigating life’s in-between moments — those times when you’re figuring out what’s next, whether by choice or circumstance. Hosted by Michael Betz, In The Making dives into real, raw conversations with people who are chasing new dreams, rebuilding after setbacks, or simply trying to find themselves along the way. From young professionals just starting out, to mid-career pivots, to second (or third) acts later in life — this show is for anyone who feels like they should have it all figured out, but doesn’t. You’ll hear honest stories of resilience, heartbr
- Publisher
- Michael R. Betz
- Category
- society & culture
- Language
- en
- Explicit
- No
- First episode
- 20 Mar 2025
- Latest episode
- 5 Jun 2025
Latest episodes
11 episodes in the feed.

5 Jun 2025
🎙️ Episode 10: Stirring Legacy Into Every Dish with Chef José Salazar
Chef José Salazar discusses his culinary journey from Colombia to Cincinnati, highlighting his creative risks and community-first leadership approach in an interview with Michael R. Betz.

22 May 2025
Corrie Loeffler | A Calling in Every Letter: Purpose, Leadership & Spelling Bee Legacy
What if staying in one place could take you everywhere? Corrie Loeffler has lived nearly every chapter of the Spelling Bee’s story—from childhood competitor to Executive Director—and as the Bee celebrates its 100th anniversary, she joins host Michael Betz to reflect on the power of legacy, learning, and leadership with heart. In this conversation, Corrie opens up about: Her journey from speller to national leader Launching the Beelieve Fund to expand access Why the Bee’s impact goes far beyond a trophy Navigating leadership and imposter syndrome What it means to serve something bigger than yourself 🎧 Listen in as we celebrate one of the most enduring institutions in American education—and the leader helping it evolve for the next 100 years. Listen on your favorite platform: 🎙 https://pod.link/1802594456 (https://pod.link/1802594456) 📺 Full article + video: https://michaelryanbetz.com/f/%F0%9F%90%9D-a-calling-in-every-letter-legacy-leadership-and-lessons (https://michaelryanbetz.com/f/%F0%9F%90%9D-a-calling-in-every-letter-legacy-leadership-and-lessons) 📅 Don’t miss the 2025 Scripps National Spelling Bee on ION, May 28–29 at 8/7c! 🐝 Spotify Tags / Categories (for Podcasters): Society & Culture → Personal Journals Education → Leadership Kids & Family → Parenting & Education Careers Nonprofits Self-Improvement

15 May 2025
🎤 New Episode: Natalie Jones on Family, Reinvention & Living Loud
Join host Michael Ryan Betz for an inspiring conversation with Cincinnati radio host, comedian, and creative spirit Natalie Jones. Natalie shares the real story behind her bold career pivots, putting family first, chasing dreams, and finding joy—even in the messiest seasons of life. In this episode: 🏡 Prioritizing family over career without regrets 🎙️ Finding identity through music and radio 🧘♀️ Staying grounded with movement, mindfulness, and daily flow 💬 Redefining dreams after loss and life changes 🎧 Listen to the full conversation: https://pod.link/1802594456 (https://pod.link/1802594456) 📖 Read the full story: https://michaelryanbetz.com/f/%F0%9F%8E%99%EF%B8%8F-in-the-making-podcast-%7C-preview-episode-8-natalie-jones (https://michaelryanbetz.com/f/%F0%9F%8E%99%EF%B8%8F-in-the-making-podcast-%7C-preview-episode-8-natalie-jones) 📲 Follow Natalie Jones: Instagram: @natjooones (https://www.instagram.com/natjooones) Website: Hubbard Cincinnati Profile (https://www.hubbardcincinnati.com/influencer-marketing/natalie) Facebook: Natalie Jones (https://www.facebook.com/natalie.jones.9216778/) 🎙️ Listen to her weekdays 3–7PM on Q102’s Roy, Nat & Freddy Mac Show! 👋 Follow Michael Ryan Betz: Website: michaelryanbetz.com (https://michaelryanbetz.com) Instagram: @michaelryanbetz (https://www.instagram.com/michaelryanbetz) Facebook: facebook.com/michaelryanbetz (https://www.facebook.com/michaelryanbetz) LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/michaelbetz (https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelbetz) 🛎️ Subscribe & click the bell to catch new episodes every Thursday at 10 AM EST. #NatalieJones #InTheMakingPodcast #FamilyFirst #CareerPivot #CreativeLife #RealTalkPodcast #MichaelRyanBetz #StillInTheMaking

1 May 2025
🎧 BETTY: 40 Years of Music, LGBTQ+ Advocacy & Dancing Through the Revolution | Ep 7 | IN The Making
In this episode of In The Making, host Michael Ryan Betz sits down with the legendary indie-pop band BETTY—Elizabeth Ziff, Amy Ziff, and Alyson Palmer—for a heartfelt, funny, and deeply inspiring conversation. With nearly four decades of fearless authenticity behind them, BETTY shares: How their activism began at the height of the AIDS crisis The political roots of their work in Washington, D.C. Stories of motherhood on the road (including gigs 10 days post-birth!) The power of women’s friendship and joyful resistance Composing for film—including their latest project headed to Cannes Film Festival Why they still believe in dancing through the revolution 🎶 Featuring songs from BETTY’s latest album EAT 🌈 Learn more about BETTY: https://hellobetty.com (https://hellobetty.com) 📖 Read the full feature story: https://michaelryanbetz.com/f/betty-4-decades-of-music-advocacy-dancing (https://michaelryanbetz.com/f/betty-4-decades-of-music-advocacy-dancing) 📲 Follow BETTY: Instagram: @bettyrules (https://instagram.com/bettyrules) Facebook: facebook.com/BETTYverse (https://facebook.com/BETTYverse) Twitter: @BETTYmusic (https://twitter.com/BETTYmusic) YouTube: youtube.com/BETTYverse (https://youtube.com/BETTYverse) 🎙️ Follow the host, Michael Ryan Betz: Website: https://michaelryanbetz.com (https://michaelryanbetz.com) Instagram: @michaelryanbetz (https://instagram.com/michaelryanbetz) Facebook: facebook.com/michaelryanbetz (https://facebook.com/michaelryanbetz) LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/michaelbetz (https://linkedin.com/in/michaelbetz) 🎧 New episodes every Thursday at 10 AM EST #InTheMakingPodcast #BETTYrules #LGBTQAdvocacy #WomenInMusic #MusicAndActivism #StillInTheMaking #PodcastDrop

24 Apr 2025
🎙 Eron Bucciarelli on In The Making – From Rock Stardom to Reinventing Legacy
🎙 Host: Michael R. Betz | Guest: Eron Bucciarelli 📅 Episode Drop: Thursday @ 10AM EST What happens when a platinum-selling drummer, grief, and a broken system collide? You get BeyondWill, and the remarkable reinvention of Eron Bucciarelli. In this heartfelt and future-forward episode of In The Making, host Michael Betz talks with Eron about the moment his father handed him an envelope—and how it became the blueprint for a digital estate planning platform that’s helping families prepare for loss without losing themselves in the process. From leading billion-dollar innovation inside Kroger to building a startup inspired by grief, Eron shares: 🔹 How losing his father became a startup catalyst🔹 Why 70% of estate plans are outdated—and what BeyondWill is doing about it🔹 Lessons from the band-to-founder pipeline (shoutout, Hawthorne Heights 🎸)🔹 Tips for founders balancing purpose and pressure🔹 The throughline between music, legacy, and meaningful tech 📖 From the book In The Making: “Tension—not failure—is often the clue that we’re outgrowing a chapter.” This episode proves that in every beat. 🎧 All Platforms: https://pod.link/1802594456 (https://pod.link/1802594456)📺 Watch on YouTube: @inthemakingpodcast (https://www.youtube.com/@inthemakingpodcast)📘 Buy the Book In The Making: https://michaelryanbetz.com (https://michaelryanbetz.com) 👤 About the Guest – Eron BucciarelliDrummer for platinum-selling band Hawthorne Heights, 3x tech founder (2 exits), and former innovation lead at Kroger & P&G. Eron is now the co-founder and CPO of BeyondWill, a digital platform transforming estate planning into something smart, seamless, and human. 🌐 BeyondWill: https://www.beyondwill.co (https://www.beyondwill.co) LinkedIn: Eron Bucciarelli (https://www.linkedin.com/in/eron-bucciarelli/) 🎧 Spotify: Hawthorne Heights on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/artist/0z8h1lIj9Ie3a4nEUEP3bF) 📚 About the Host – Michael R. Betz 📘 In The Making: Leading Through Change and Growing with Purpose🌐 Website: www.michaelryanbetz.com (https://www.michaelryanbetz.com)📱 Social: @michaelryanbetz🔗 Instagram: instagram.com/michaelryanbetz (https://www.instagram.com/michaelryanbetz)🔗 Facebook: facebook.com/michaelryanbetz (https://www.facebook.com/michaelryanbetz)🔗 LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/michaelbetz (https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelbetz) Michael Ryan Betz is a visionary leader, strategist, and storyteller with over two decades of experience helping brands, nonprofits, and movements grow with purpose and soul. As the President and Managing Partner of The Proper Group, Michael has built a reputation for driving transformative growth, fostering innovation, and delivering measurable outcomes across industries such as automotive, healthcare, SaaS, and media. Michael is the author of In The Making: Leading Through Change and Growing with Purpose, a purpose-driven memoir that offers a raw and real invitation to live with intention, impact, and a little bit of audacity. He is also the host of the In The Making podcast, where he dives into real, raw conversations with people who are chasing new dreams, rebuilding after setbacks, or simply trying to find themselves along the way. Michael's work is driven by a deep passion for change and a commitment to helping others navigate life's in-between moments. He believes that the moments we don't expect often shape us the most, and he is dedicated to sharing stories that inspire resilience, vulnerability, and the power of sharing our real experiences. #InTheMakingPodcast #EronBucciarelli #BeyondWill #EstatePlanningStartup #MichaelRyanBetz #StartupStories #ReinventionJourney #GriefToGrowth #LegacyTech #HawthorneHeights #CreativeLeadership #DeathTech #InTheMakingBook #StillInTheMaking #PodcastDrop 🎧 Subscribe, leave a review, and tell us what resonates most. 📲 Let’s keep the conversation going—because we’re all still in the making. 📅 New Episodes Drop Every Thursday @ 10AM EST

17 Apr 2025
🎙️ IN THE MAKING: Episode 5: From M&A to Meaning: Brandon’s Journey
In this episode of IN THE MAKING, host Michael R. Betz reconnects with longtime friend and M&A executive Brandon Blewett for a raw, reflective, and unexpectedly hilarious conversation about navigating life’s in-between moments. Brandon has worked on over $210 billion in corporate transactions and currently leads corporate development for a $1B private equity–backed platform. But this story isn’t about the corner office—it's about the layovers between the big wins. From failing in tax law to walking away from a prestigious role, moving closer to family, mentoring students and athletes, and writing a book—Brandon opens up about what it really means to grow through uncertainty. 💬 In this conversation, we explore: Admitting when your career path no longer fits Choosing family over status and redefining success The moment Brandon realized presence > prestige Writing his first book: How to Avoid Strangers on Airplanes Mentorship, identity, and the funny stuff no one talks about The truth that no one is ever fully “made”—we’re all still in the making 🎙️ Hosted by Michael R. Betz—author, speaker, fractional executive, and founder of The Proper Group—this podcast explores personal transformation, career reinvention, and the moments that shape who we are becoming. Michael’s new book, In The Making: Leading Through Change and Growing with Purpose, is available now on Amazon and dives deeper into these same stories of pivots, breakdowns, breakthroughs, and becoming. 🎧 Listen on all platforms: https://pod.link/1802594456 (https://pod.link/1802594456) 📺 Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@InTheMakingPodcast (https://www.youtube.com/@InTheMakingPodcast) 📕 Brandon’s Book – How to Avoid Strangers on Airplanes: Amazon: https://a.co/d/iqu1RSp (https://a.co/d/iqu1RSp) Barnes & Noble: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/how-to-avoid-strangers-on-airplanes-brandon-c-blewett/1146609602 (https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/how-to-avoid-strangers-on-airplanes-brandon-c-blewett/1146609602) Kobo: https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/how-to-avoid-strangers-on-airplanes-1 (https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/how-to-avoid-strangers-on-airplanes-1) 🌐 Website: www.brandonblewett.com (http://www.brandonblewett.com) 📱 Social: @brandonintheair 📚 Michael’s Book – In The Making: Leading Through Change and Growing with Purpose Amazon: https://amzn.to/4ikphQu (https://amzn.to/4ikphQu) 🌐 More on Michael + all episodes: www.michaelryanbetz.com (http://www.michaelryanbetz.com) 📱 Instagram + LinkedIn: @michaelryanbetz 🎙️ New episodes drop every Thursday at 10 AM ET | Subscribe now & leave a review if this one resonated! 🔗 Show Notes + Links

10 Apr 2025
Redefining Success & Delusional Optimism with Lauren Worley
In this episode of In The Making, host Michael Betz sits down with creative powerhouse Lauren Worley—founder of Blue Cardinal Village—to talk about what it means to redefine success, why founders need a little delusional optimism, and how the hardest work is staying true to yourself. From walking away from the “dream job” to embracing creative pivots, Lauren shares insights for anyone navigating change, doubt, or big leaps. 🎧 What You’ll Hear: The reality behind leaving your "dream job" Why optimism (even the delusional kind) drives innovation Building a life and brand that’s true to you Lauren’s story behind naming Blue Cardinal Village Fire round answers and a peek into Michael’s journey 🔗 Connect with Lauren Worley: Website: bluecardinalvillage.com (https://bluecardinalvillage.com) IG: @ohgirlvstheworld (https://www.instagram.com/ohgirlvstheworld/) LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/laurenbworley (https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenbworley) 🔗 Connect with Michael Betz: Website: michaelryanbetz.com (https://www.michaelryanbetz.com) | theproper.group (https://www.theproper.group) IG: @michaelryanbetz (https://www.instagram.com/michaelryanbetz) LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/michaelryanbetz (https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelryanbetz) ✨ Subscribe and follow for weekly episodes!

3 Apr 2025
The Care Economy, Career Pivots & Rebuilding the System with Camie Berardi
In this powerful episode of In The Making, host Michael Betz (@michaelryanbetz) sits down with Camie Berardi, a leading maternal health advocate and B2B strategist at Tinyhood, to talk about the future of parenting, the broken systems working families face, and what it means to pivot careers with purpose. With a background in healthcare policy and experience at organizations like the NYS Department of Health and Children’s Hospital Association, Camie brings a unique lens to today’s most pressing challenges in the Care Economy. 💡 We discuss: Why the Care Economy is the trillion-dollar future of work Her bold pivot from public policy to parenting tech The hidden barriers working parents face in the U.S. Camie’s work with Tinyhood, a female-founded parenting platform The power of whole-self leadership and resilience 🎁 Special Offers & Links: ▶️ Watch the Tinyhood Expecting Collection Trailer: https://classes.tinyhood.com/trailers (https://classes.tinyhood.com/trailers) 🎓 Try Tinyhood FREE for 7 Days: https://www.tinyhood.com (https://www.tinyhood.com) 💸 Many health plans reimburse for childbirth education—check your coverage! 💛 Support Camie’s personal cause: Let’s Build Beds – Every Child Deserves a Bed: https://www.paypal.com/donate?hosted_button_id=8YWSCDQZ9WF22 (https://www.paypal.com/donate?hosted_button_id=8YWSCDQZ9WF22) 📲 Follow Camie: 🔗 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/camieberardi (https://www.instagram.com/camieberardi) 🔗 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/camieberardi (https://www.facebook.com/camieberardi) 🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/camieberardi/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/camieberardi/) 🔊 New episodes drop every Thursday! Follow & review to support the show. 🎧 Tune in Thursday at 10AM EST ▶️ Listen: https://pod.link/1802594456 (https://pod.link/1802594456) 📺 Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@InTheMakingPodcast (https://www.youtube.com/@InTheMakingPodcast) 📖 Pre-order In The Making (April 10): https://michaelryanbetz.com (https://michaelryanbetz.com) 📲 Follow Michael :🔗 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/michaelryanbetz (https://www.instagram.com/camieberardi)🔗 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/michaelryanbetz (https://www.facebook.com/camieberardi)🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelryanbetz (https://www.linkedin.com/in/camieberardi/) Let us know what resonates most with you. #CareEconomy #WorkingParents #CareerPivot #MaternalHealth #Tinyhood #InTheMaking #LeadershipInMotherhood #ParentingTech #PodcastForMoms #WomenInBusiness

30 Mar 2025
Building Empathy-Driven Impact with Matt Fogarty, Founder of Cherry Willow Apparel | Ep. 2
🎙 Welcome to Episode 2 of In The Making with Michael Betz! In this episode, we’re joined by Matt Fogarty, Founder of Cherry Willow Apparel (https://cherrywillowapparel.com), a mission-driven clothing brand building a community of advocates to end homelessness. Matt opens up about what inspired him to leave the traditional startup world to create something rooted in empathy, advocacy, and impact. From launching a brand with heart to training for a 500+ mile bike ride to raise awareness, this conversation is packed with wisdom, vulnerability, and purpose. 💡 What we cover in this episode: ✔️ Why Matt founded Cherry Willow Apparel to fight homelessness ✔️ How empathy shapes leadership and brand culture ✔️ Lessons from starting when things aren’t perfect ✔️ Why the “messy middle” is the most important part of the journey ✔️ How YOU can help make an impact 🎧 Listen now on your favorite platform & don’t forget to subscribe! 📘 JUST ANNOUNCED: Michael Betz’s new book In The Making is now available for pre-order → https://amzn.to/4c5S365 (https://amzn.to/4c5S365) 🌐 Or pre-order direct at: www.michaelryanbetz.com (https://www.michaelryanbetz.com) 🎁 Special Listener Offer: Use promo code FOUNDER for 10% off all Cherry Willow Apparel gear at: https://cherrywillowapparel.com (https://cherrywillowapparel.com) 🚴 Support the Pedal for Progress ride to end homelessness → cherrywillowapparel.com/pedalforprogress25 (https://cherrywillowapparel.com/pedalforprogress25) 🌐 Cherry Willow Apparel: https://cherrywillowapparel.com (https://cherrywillowapparel.com) 🚴 Pedal for Progress Fundraiser: https://cherrywillowapparel.com/pedalforprogress25 (https://cherrywillowapparel.com/pedalforprogress25) 🎁 10% off code: FOUNDER 📘 Pre-order In The Making (Book): Amazon: https://amzn.to/4c5S365 (https://amzn.to/4c5S365) Website: https://www.michaelryanbetz.com (https://www.michaelryanbetz.com) 🎙 Subscribe to In The Making: https://pod.link/1802594456 (https://pod.link/1802594456) 📺 Watch the full episode: [Insert YouTube link once live] 🔗 LINKS & RESOURCES 🌐 Cherry Willow Apparel: https://cherrywillowapparel.com (https://cherrywillowapparel.com) 🚴 Pedal for Progress Fundraiser: https://cherrywillowapparel.com/pedalforprogress25 (https://cherrywillowapparel.com/pedalforprogress25) 🎁 10% off code: FOUNDER 📘 Pre-order In The Making (Book): Amazon: https://amzn.to/4c5S365 (https://amzn.to/4c5S365) Website: https://www.michaelryanbetz.com (https://www.michaelryanbetz.com) 🎙 Subscribe to In The Making: https://pod.link/1802594456 (https://pod.link/1802594456) 📺 Watch the full episode: https://youtu.be/WqwJWK-5zIA

25 Mar 2025
Episode 2 Preview – Matt Foggarty on Betting on Yourself & Navigating the Unknown
🚨 Sneak Peek 🚨 In this preview of In The Making Episode 2, Matt Foggarty gets real about what it means to take risks, let go of the script, and build something that feels right—even when it doesn’t look “right” to others. We talk about: Walking away from certainty The emotional side of leadership What it means to redefine success on your own terms 🎧 Don’t miss the full episode dropping Thursday, March 27 — available on Apple, Spotify, and all major platforms. Subscribe, share, and leave a review to help others find us. 🎧 Connect with Matt Fogarty & Cherry Willow Apparel 🚴♂️ Support the Pedal for Progress Campaign Help raise awareness and funds to fight homelessness: 👉 http://cherrywillowapparel.com/pedalforprogress25 (http://cherrywillowapparel.com/pedalforprogress25) 🌟 Follow Cherry Willow Apparel Instagram: @CherryWillowApparel (https://www.instagram.com/CherryWillowApparel) Facebook: Cherry Willow Apparel (https://www.facebook.com/CherryWillowApparel/) LinkedIn: Cherry Willow Apparel (https://www.linkedin.com/company/cherry-willow-apparel/) YouTube: Cherry Willow Apparel (https://www.youtube.com/@CherryWillow_Apparel) Twitter/X: @CherryWillowApp (https://twitter.com/CherryWillowApp) 📲 Follow Matt Fogarty LinkedIn: Matt Fogarty (https://www.linkedin.com/in/foge/) Instagram: @fog2foge (https://www.instagram.com/fog2foge/) TikTok: @fog2foge (https://www.tiktok.com/@fog2foge) 🎙️ Hosted by Michael Betz Founder of The Proper Group | Author of In The Making 🌐 Connect with Michael Betz Website: www.michaelryanbetz.com (https://www.michaelryanbetz.com) Instagram: @michaelryanbetz (https://www.instagram.com/michaelryanbetz) TikTok: @michaelrbetz Facebook: Michael Ryan Betz (https://www.facebook.com/michaelryanbetz/) Email: mbetz@theproper.group 🌟 The Proper Group Website: www.theproper.group (https://www.theproper.group) 📘 In The Making — The Book Available on all major digital platforms April 10 (including Amazon) A personal and professional playbook for growing through change, building with purpose, and redefining leadership on your terms.

20 Mar 2025
🎙️ IN THE MAKING PODCAST – EPISODE 1: Stevi Carr 🔗 Hosted by Michael Betz | @theredstick
In this premiere episode of In The Making, host Michael Betz (@theredstick) sits down with Stevi Carr, founder of WISe Wellness Guild, entrepreneur, and advocate for whole-self wellness and leadership. Stevi shares her journey of navigating career pivots, redefining success, and embracing wellness as a strategy for resilience. 💡 We discuss: ✅ The power of pivots—when & how to make a big career or life shift ✅ How whole-self wellness fuels leadership & personal growth ✅ The reality of entrepreneurship & creating sustainable success ✅ Lessons in resilience & learning from unexpected challenges 🎯 If you’ve ever felt stuck or in transition, this episode is for you. 🔔 Follow, rate & review! New episodes weekly. 📌 Follow Stevi & WISe Wellness Guild: 🌐 Website (https://www.wisewellnessguild.com/) 📸 Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/wise_wellness_guild/) 💼 LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/wise-wellness-guild) 📌 Follow Michael Betz & In The Making 🌍 Website (www.michaelryanbetz.com) 📸 Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/theredstick) 💼 LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelryanbetz/) 🏢 Company Website (www.theproper.group)
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