IndieMatters「独立食粮」电台是 XR 内容开发者社区的播客节目，我们会邀请同好畅聊有关 VR/AR 的话题和故事，陪伴大家的创作生活。
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IndieMatters「独立食粮」电台是 XR 内容开发者社区的播客节目，我们会邀请同好畅聊有关 VR/AR 的话题和故事，陪伴大家的创作生活。
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July 20, 2026
S2E8 与库克会面的 Vision Pro 游戏开发者
<p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">本期嘉宾是 <span>雷鸟创新 (RayNeo) </span><span>游戏制作人 陈振武 (Ziv) 和</span><span>游戏技术负责人 </span><span>彭璐。<br></span><br>今年春天，苹果在北京举办了一场游戏开发者展示沙龙活动，苹果 CEO 库克也亲临现场，与中国开发者面对面交流。作为现场唯一的 Vision Pro 游戏项目，「数码纪元：Elu传说」得到了很多关注。活动结束后，我带着强烈的好奇，拉着开发者聊了聊他们创作这款作品的经历。毫不意外地，这是一个有关「梦想与热爱」的故事。<br><br></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><img data-key="0" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/f065-audiofreehighqps/A9/54/GAqh9TMOM4gpAApMmwS54rF3.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/f065-audiofreehighqps/A9/54/GAqh9TMOM4gpAApMmwS54rF3.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/f065-audiofreehighqps/A9/54/GAqh9TMOM4gpAApMmwS54rF3.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="421.875" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/f065-audiofreehighqps/A9/54/GAqh9TMOM4gpAApMmwS54rF3.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="78.75"><br></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">节目中提到的游戏：https://apps.apple.com/us/app/elu-legend/id6738047583<br><br>--- 节目信息 ---<br>日期：2026-03-19<br>嘉宾：陈振武 / 彭璐<br>主播：脑潘<br><br>--- 内容提要 ---<br>00:00 “Ziv” 的游戏从业经历<br>06:02 “璐神” 的游戏从业经历<br>11:52 是什么驱使着你做游戏？<br>20:32 雷鸟内部团队为何做一款 AVP 游戏<br>31:00 「数码纪元：Elu传说」的现状与计划<br>36:38 更极致的「Pokémon GO」的愿景<br>43:54 交互体验设计验证与 visionOS 技术应用的探索<br>52:50 「空间场景」新功能的故事<br>59:09 如何让更多人享受到 AR 游戏<br>01:06:50 碎碎念：平台应加大游戏推荐力度<br>01:12:38 能继续做下去是最大期待<br><br>--- 制作团队 ---<br>剪辑：脑潘<br>音乐：布鲁特<br>运营：伊雪<br><br>--- 联系我们 ---<br>官网：indiematters.com<br>哔哩哔哩 / 微博 / 小红书：VRplay<br>公众号：vr-play<br>交流群：点击公号下方按钮「内容-我要进群」</p><span><br></span>
July 15, 2026
S2E7 另辟蹊径的 Vision Pro 创业者，为何仍未离场
<p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal">本期嘉宾是「口袋电梯」创始人麦子（许楠爽）。从国内第一波虚拟现实创业大潮中，打造梦想小镇「眼见 VR 孵化器」的梦想家，到 Apple Vision Pro 掀起空间计算新趋势的当下，深入 ToB 应用领域一线实践的创业者，麦子用自己的多样身份和亲身经历告诉我们，把手弄脏和持续在场，是一个 XR 信仰者参与这个时代的最佳方式。<br><br></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><img data-key="0" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/7d29-audiofreehighqps/13/96/GKwRIJEOLTdEAAVh4AS3G9O1.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/7d29-audiofreehighqps/13/96/GKwRIJEOLTdEAAVh4AS3G9O1.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/7d29-audiofreehighqps/13/96/GKwRIJEOLTdEAAVh4AS3G9O1.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="421.875" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/7d29-audiofreehighqps/13/96/GKwRIJEOLTdEAAVh4AS3G9O1.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="78.75"><br></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><br>节目中提到的播客：《不孤独星球》<br><br>--- 节目信息 ---<br>日期：2026-06-27<br>嘉宾：许楠爽<br>主播：脑潘<br><br>--- 内容提要 ---<br>00:00 从 VR 孵化器负责人到旅行播客主理人<br>05:20 我们为什么喜欢听播客、做播客<br>12:28 再聊 “VR 之神”<br>17:08 悦己还是悦人，这是一个问题<br>20:28 成为 Apple Vision Pro 创业者的故事<br>39:25 征服神秘的电梯行业，不能只靠 XR<br>45:54 “创业者是社会的产品经理”<br>53:24 <span>不离场的</span>「口袋电梯」背后的创业哲学<br>01:08:16 “你成为了更好的创业者吗？”<br><br>--- 制作团队 ---<br>剪辑：脑潘<br>音乐：布鲁特<br>运营：伊雪<br><br>--- 联系我们 ---<br>官网：indiematters.com<br>哔哩哔哩 / 微博 / 小红书：VRplay<br>公众号：vr-play<br>交流群：点击公号下方按钮「内容-我要进群」<br></p><span><br></span>
April 26, 2026
S2E6 新生代 XR 游戏制作人的养成之路
<p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;"><span>本期嘉宾是<span>籽象科技创始人费晨仪，<span>在 </span><span>Unity 中国开发挑战赛上，</span>她团队的原创作品<span>「唯有影子知道——狐狸旅社秘闻」</span></span>获得 XR 赛道银奖。作为近年活跃在 XR 领域的新晋创作者，你可以在 Meta Horizon、Apple Vision、线下娱乐和沉浸戏剧等多个生态领域看到她的身影，作品类型之丰富、品质之高，使她的经历愈发令人好奇。</span>我们在这届大赛的<span><span>颁奖礼当天，录制了这期</span></span>「IndieMatters | 独立食粮」电台，希望她的故事，能给更多独立开发者带来启发。</p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;"><img data-key="0" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/4823-audiofreehighqps/23/28/GAqhVLMNwio1AAbjBwSP1jXy.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" alt="" data-origin="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/4823-audiofreehighqps/23/28/GAqhVLMNwio1AAbjBwSP1jXy.jpg?op_type=0" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/4823-audiofreehighqps/23/28/GAqhVLMNwio1AAbjBwSP1jXy.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_large" data-large-width="750" data-large-height="421.875" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/4823-audiofreehighqps/23/28/GAqhVLMNwio1AAbjBwSP1jXy.jpg!op_type=4&device_type=ios&upload_type=attachment&name=mobile_small" data-preview-width="140" data-preview-height="78.75"></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;"><br>--- 节目信息 ---<br>日期：2025-12-18<br>嘉宾：费晨仪<br>主播：脑潘<br><br>--- 内容提要 ---<br>00:00 叙事解谜游戏「唯有影子知道」<br>21:20 为何踏上 XR 独立开发者之路<br>30:23 首个作品 VR 音游「种子指挥家」<br>40:57 线下 AR 多人对抗游戏「气与魔法」<br>45:29 MR 互动戏剧「有完没完！弗兰梗斯坦！」<br>53:19 如何通过作品项目完成高效的媒介探索<br>54:50 Horizon Worlds 手游项目<br>58:41 未来的计划、挑战与期望<br>01:04:15 优秀 XR 游戏制作人的独特视角<br><br>--- 制作团队 ---<br>剪辑：脑潘<br>音乐：布鲁特<br>运营：伊雪<br><br>--- 联系我们 ---<br>官网：indiematters.com<br>哔哩哔哩 / 微博 / 小红书：VRplay<br>公众号：vr-play<br>交流群：点击公号下方按钮「内容-我要进群」</p><span><br></span>
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