Indigenous Insights: An Evaluation Podcast

About Indigenous Insights: An Evaluation Podcast

Indigenous evaluation conversations

Publisher

Indigenous Insights

Category

education

Language

en

Explicit

Yes

First episode

30 Oct 2022

Latest episode

27 Jul 2026

Latest episodes

57 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   27 Jul 2026

   S05E09: Belonging, Indigenous Evaluation, and Growing the Next Generation with Cheyenne Seneca

   Cheyenne Seneca is a descendent of the Seneca Nation of Indians. She comes from a lineage of social workers, teachers, and lawyers who have dedicated their life’s work to supporting communities in Indian Country. She grew up in the San Francisco Bay Area and her calling to serve Native people through science and storytelling was nurtured by the urban Indian community. She has worked with urban Indian organizations, partnered with Tribal research councils, and carried out Indigenous evaluation for almost ten years. Today, she works as an Indigenous evaluator at the Urban Indian Health Institute, a Tribal Epidemiology Center that serves urban American Indians and Alaska Natives nationally. She is committed to its mission to decolonize data for Indigenous people, by Indigenous people and has made contributions through her expertise in providing training and technical assistance in public health research and evaluation. She is passionate about reclaiming evaluation as an Indigenous value and practice, and improving the evaluation capacity of urban Indian organizations and young people. She especially loves mentoring interns participating in the Urban Indian Health Institute’s Public Health Training Program and supporting their journeys to becoming leaders for their communities. Overview In this episode, Gladys is joined by Cheyenne Seneca, an Indigenous evaluator at the Urban Indian Health Institute, for a beautiful conversation about identity, belonging, public health, and evaluation as a practice of service to community. Cheyenne shares her journey of coming into confidence in her Indigenous identity, shaped by family stories, connection to Seneca heritage, urban Indigenous community, and formative experiences at the National Congress of American Indians, Intertribal Friendship House, Native American Health Center, and tribal research spaces. Through these relationships, she came to understand evaluation not as an extractive or judgment-based practice, but as a way of giving back, strengthening community, and carrying responsibility with care. Cheyenne reflects on her work supporting the evaluation of the Urban Indian Health Institute’s Public Health Training Program, which supports Indigenous youth, interns, and fellows in exploring public health, research, evaluation, and service. They explore the opportunity of storytelling, art, oral presentations, and culturally grounded evaluation methods as powerful ways for young people to reflect on their learning and reclaim their place in science, public health, and community leadership. This episode is an invitation to invest in Indigenous youth, build spaces of belonging, and imagine Indigenous evaluation as a practice rooted in love, cultural connectedness, mentorship, and collective futures. Resources Responsibility to All Relations: Indigenous Evaluation of an AIAN Public Health Workforce Development Program, Cheyenne Seneca, Benita McCarn, and Lenice Baker in the Canadian Journal of Program Evaluation. Insights For Indigenous Evaluation Book (Open access and free online!) https://pressbooks.pub/indigenousinsightscollective/ For more visit: https://www.gladysrowe.com/podcast (Scroll to the bottom to subscribe to the newsletter!) If you are loving this podcast please leave a five star review on your favourite streaming service. If you would like to offer support please visit: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InsightsPod

2. 

   13 Jul 2026

   S05E08: Collective Dreaming, Indigenous Impact, and Story as Evaluation with Martell Hesketh and Gillian Joseph

   Martell Hesketh, a member of Michel First Nation from Treaty 6 territory in Canada, is a program evaluator dedicated to advancing Indigenous ways of knowing through data and storytelling. After studying Human Biology at Stanford University and earning her MPH from the University of Washington, Martell worked with Urban Indian organizations at a tribal epidemiology center. Her work focuses on reclaiming narratives through evaluation grounded in Indigenous values and community priorities. She currently works at NDN Collective as the Impact & Learning Manager and lives on Coast Salish lands in Seattle, Washington. Gillian Joseph is Ihaŋktoŋwaŋ and Mdewakaŋtoŋ Dakota and grew up as a guest on Waxhaw and Catawba lands. They have worked as a researcher, evaluator, and writer across diverse contexts, guided by their passion for Indigenous sovereignty and storytelling. Some of their previous experience includes serving as Research Manager at NDN Collective, developing and evaluating a curriculum about Indigenous Knowledge, producing social sciences textbooks, and utilizing decolonial methodologies to deepen understandings of health and well-being. They have a Bachelor’s degree in Psychology from George Washington University and a Master’s in Social and Cultural Psychology which was completed at ISCTE - University Institute of Lisbon, the University of Oslo, and the University of Limerick. Overview In this episode, Gladys is joined by Martell Hesketh and Gillian Joseph in a conversation about Indigenous evaluation, storytelling, and the ongoing work of redefining impact. Martell and Gillian share their journeys into evaluation through public health, psychology, community-based research, and Indigenous-led organizations, reflecting on how they came to understand evaluation as a practice of responsibility, relationship, and narrative reclamation. Together, they explore their process of developing an impact framework within a movement organization, where work is constantly shifting in response to community needs. Rather than treating impact as a fixed or linear concept, Martell and Gillian describe it as contextual, relational, and intergenerational, something shaped by ancestors, present-day realities, and collective dreams for the future. They highlight the importance of strong and flexible evaluation questions, positive feedback loops, Indigenous definitions of sustainability, and the need to resist narrow metrics that flatten community stories. A central thread of the episode is collective dreaming: the practice of coming together to imagine futures rooted in Indigenous worldviews, shared meaning, and community power. This episode invites listeners to consider how evaluation can hold space for dreams, uncertainty, accountability, and the many ways Indigenous communities already know how to measure what matters. Resources Article: Reclaiming Data for Indigenous Dreaming & Self-Determination. Insights For Indigenous Evaluation Book (Open access and free online!) https://pressbooks.pub/indigenousinsightscollective/ For more visit: https://www.gladysrowe.com/podcast (Scroll to the bottom to subscribe to the newsletter!) If you are loving this podcast please leave a five star review on your favourite streaming service. If you would like to offer support please visit: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InsightsPod

3. 

   22 Jun 2026

   S05E07: She Carries the Words: Pedagogy of Peace and Relational Leadership with Dr. Lindsay Brant

   Dr. Lindsay Marie Brant  is the Director, Indigenous Initiatives at St. Lawrence College and is from Tyendinaga Mohawk Territory. In addition to her administrative role, Lindsay is an Adjunct Assistant Professor in the Master of Health Professions Education program at Queen’s, and Senior Advisor, Teaching, Innovation and Learning, advising on the curriculum design and redevelopment for this program. Lindsay has received several awards in recognition of her contributions to education, including the Educational Leadership Award from the Educational Developers Caucus and an Ideas Worth Teaching Award from the Aspen Institute in 2021, the latter acknowledging her innovative work in the Commerce program at Smith School of Business at Queen’s University. Most recently, she was honoured with the Canadian Association for Medical Education’s Certificate of Merit Award (2024) for her impactful work in health education curriculum development. Lindsay was also the 2025 recipient of the Indigenous Women’s Movement Award from the Ontario Native Women’s Association, honouring her commitment to leading community-driven and values- based work both in community, and across educational institutions. Lindsay has also been honoured with several team awards from Queen’s University, including Principal’s Teaching & Learning Award for Indigenous Education (2 x recipient in 2023 and in 2026). Dr. Brant was recently named an inaugural invited scholar and Pedagogy of Peace Nexus leader in the newly established Queen’s Institute for Educational Scholarship and Research (QIESR) at Queen’s University, which will allow for cross-institutional research, and global reach for advancing Indigenous knowledges/research/scholarship/educational praxis. In addition to her academic and leadership roles, Lindsay is also an accomplished storyteller, writer, and poet, whose work is rooted in Indigenous knowledges, values, creativity, and community/ancestral connection and healing. Overview In this episode, Gladys is joined by Dr. Lindsay Brant. Rooted in her community of Tyendinaga Mohawk Territory and guided by the teachings embedded in her name, Lindsay shares a deeply personal journey of leadership, storytelling, and coming into her responsibilities as a knowledge carrier. Their conversation focuses on how her love of language, land, and water shaped her understanding of education as a relational practice and ultimately led to the development of her Pedagogy of Peace framework. Lindsay reflects on creating the framework during the COVID-19 pandemic, drawing upon the teachings of the Great Law of Peace, Haudenosaunee values, and Anishinaabe understandings of relationality and balance. The episode explores how peace, strength, a good mind, and self-in-relation can guide educational practice, leadership, and evaluation. Lindsay offers reflections on the responsibilities that come with sharing Indigenous knowledge within institutional spaces, the importance of protecting community-rooted teachings, and the role of poetry and creative practice in imagining decolonial futures. The episode closes with Lindsay sharing her poem Fearless Futures, a powerful reflection on hope, world-building, and the possibilities that emerge when we choose peace, connection, and collective care. Resources Queen’s University Centre for Teaching and Learning Pedagogy of Peace Animation. Available through the Queen’s Centre for Teaching and Learning YouTube channel. Insights For Indigenous Evaluation Book (Open access and free online!) https://pressbooks.pub/indigenousinsightscollective/ For more visit: https://www.gladysrowe.com/podcast (Scroll to the bottom to subscribe to the newsletter!) If you are loving this podcast please leave a five star review on your favourite streaming service. If you would like to offer support please visit: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InsightsPod

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Apple Podcasts (US)

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5.0 / 5

20 ratings

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