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Industry Inner Join

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Industry Inner Join is the community lifting data literacy across Australia. Hosted by Douglas, a former data analyst and founder of DR Analytics Recruitment, the show features real, unfiltered conversations with data leaders across industry. It’s built for early to mid-career professionals who want to grow their skills, navigate the data world and hear the kind of advice you won’t find in a course or textbook. Douglas started Inner Join to share the insights he wishes he had earlier in his career - straight from the people who’ve been there. Proudly sponsored by DR Analytics Recruitment,

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Episode thumbnail for 11: Law to Data Leader: Tim Sondalini on Squiggly Careers, Hackathons and Building Teams

June 25, 2026

11: Law to Data Leader: Tim Sondalini on Squiggly Careers, Hackathons and Building Teams

<p>In this episode, Doug sits down with <strong>Tim Sondalini, </strong>Head of Data &amp; Analytics at Perth Airport, to explore what happens when a law graduate with a civic heart finds his calling at the intersection of technology and problem-solving and never really stops building things on the side.</p><p>With a career spanning management consulting at Deloitte, data team builds at Water Corporation and Hesperia, and now Perth Airport, Tim brings a refreshingly squiggly perspective on what it actually takes to lead in the data space without ever having been a programmer.</p><p>Doug and Tim cover the questions that matter most right now:</p><ul><li>Why translation skills beat technical depth when building and hiring data teams;</li></ul><ul><li>How the $1 Sprint compresses an entire innovation cycle into 90 minutes;</li></ul><ul><li>What the printing press can teach us about surviving the AI revolution;</li></ul><ul><li>and why information governance is the most underrated career move a senior analyst can make.</li></ul><p>They also go deep on the bigger picture; whether AI is a net good, how open source models are quietly becoming the scariest thing in the room, why the demo beats the memo every single time and the advice Tim gives to anyone trying to carve out a career in data without a traditional path.</p><p>Whether you&#39;re a data professional gunning for your first leadership role, a builder obsessed with getting to market fast or someone figuring out how to stay relevant in a world that changed again last weekend, this one&#39;s got plenty of takes!</p><p><strong>Want to learn more about Industry Inner Join?</strong></p><p>Industry Inner Join is a community initiative that brings together Perth data and AI professionals to connect and share industry insights.</p><p>Our aim is to uplift data literacy across Perth and Australia. We host quarterly in-person and online events, bringing together analysts, engineers and data leaders from across industries to share knowledge and build community.</p><p><strong>Powered by </strong><a href="www.analyticsrecruitment.com.au" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer"><strong>DR Analytics Recruitment.</strong></a></p><p><strong>Building people | Building community | Building businesses</strong></p>

Episode thumbnail for 10: CPO to AI CEO: Kevin Brown on Self-Learning Surveillance, AI Strategy and Doing What Lights You Up

May 21, 2026

10: CPO to AI CEO: Kevin Brown on Self-Learning Surveillance, AI Strategy and Doing What Lights You Up

<p>In this episode, Doug sits down with <strong>Kevin Brown, CEO of Icetana AI.</strong> An ASX-listed self-learning surveillance software company built right here in Perth, to explore what happens when you put serious AI behind thousands of cameras, and what that means for safety, privacy and the future of security operations.</p><p>With a career spanning IT leadership, product and operations across VGW and beyond, Kevin brings refreshingly unfiltered take on building AI-powered technology, scaling a global business from Perth and navigating the ethical edge of surveillance tech.</p><p>Doug and Kevin cover the questions that matter most right now: how Icetana's anomaly detection is already preventing slip-and-fall claims worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, why the Bondi attack exposed a systemic gap in how we monitor public spaces, what an AI operating system actually looks like inside a leadership team and why Kevin runs an uncensored LLM at home just to get an unfiltered answer.</p><p>They also go deep on the bigger picture; AI alignment risks, longevity escape velocity, whether AI will create more jobs than it destroys and the advice Kevin gives his own sons about building a career in a world that's changing faster than any of us can track.</p><p>Whether you're a data or AI professional, a founder navigating scale or someone just trying to figure out where to place your bets, this one's got plenty takes!</p><p><strong>Want to learn more about Industry Inner Join?</strong></p><p>Industry Inner Join is a community initiative that brings together Perth data and AI professionals to connect and share industry insights. </p><p>Our aim is to uplift data literacy across Perth and Australia. We host quarterly in-person and online events, bringing together analysts, engineers and data leaders from across industries to share knowledge and build community.</p><p>Powered by DR Analytics Recruitment; helping businesses hire top data talent.</p><p><strong>Building people | Building community | Building businesses</strong></p>

Episode thumbnail for 9: Banker to Head of AI: Jess Kuan on Domain Knowledge, Hiring and AI Adoption

April 23, 2026

9: Banker to Head of AI: Jess Kuan on Domain Knowledge, Hiring and AI Adoption

<p>In this episode, <strong>Doug</strong> sits down with <strong>Jess Kuan, Head of Data and AI at P&amp;N Bank</strong>, to unpack what it really takes to build a career at the intersection of data, technology and business.</p><p><br></p><p>With nearly 20 years in financial services, spanning complaints, collections, frontline sales, back-office processing, and product management before landing in data and AI - Jess brings a rare perspective shaped by time spent actually doing the work.</p><p>They cover the career questions that matter most right now: why domain knowledge is still a competitive edge in a world of AI-generated code, what Jess actually screens for when hiring (spoiler: it&#39;s not your SQL skills) and how P&amp;N Bank has rolled out tools like Snowflake Intelligence to put self-serve analytics in the hands of business users.</p><p>Whether you&#39;re a junior analyst trying to break in, a hiring manager rethinking your process, or a data leader navigating AI adoption, this one&#39;s packed with practical insight.</p><p><strong>Want to learn more about Industry Inner Join?</strong></p><p>Industry Inner Join is a community initiative that brings together Perth data professionals to connect and share industry insights.</p><p>Our aim is to uplift data literacy across Perth and Australia.</p><p>We host quarterly in-person and online events, bringing together analysts, engineers, and data leaders from across industries to share knowledge and build community.</p><p><strong>Powered by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠DR Analytics Recruitment⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - helping businesses hire top data talent.</strong></p><p><strong>Building people | Building community | Building businesses</strong></p>

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What is Industry Inner Join?

Industry Inner Join is the community lifting data literacy across Australia.

Hosted by Douglas, a former data analyst and founder of DR Analytics Recruitment, the show features real, unfiltered conversations with data leaders across industry.

It’s built for early to mid-career professionals who want to grow their skills, navigate the data world and hear the kind of advice you won’t find in a course or textbook.

Douglas started Inner Join to share the insights he wishes he had earlier in his career - straight from the people who’ve been there.

Proudly sponsored by DR Analytics Recruitment,

How often does this podcast release new episodes?

This podcast updates daily.

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Yes, this podcast regularly features guests.

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