Inner and Outer Worlds Podcast

About Inner and Outer Worlds Podcast

A podcast about Science and Spirituality, Physics and Metaphysics, Biology, and Philosophy, brought to you by the Hanania brothers, Zach and Jordan (PhD). Here we study reality from all angles, exploring our inner subjective worlds and consciousness, and unpacking what we know about science. Our goal is to help people, and ourselves, gain a deeper understanding of life and what's really going on in this human experience, and to keep learning as we seek truth and continue discovering.

Publisher

with the Hanania bros

Category

science

Language

en

Explicit

Yes

First episode

1 Feb 2024

Latest episode

24 Aug 2026

Latest episodes

17 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   24 Aug 2026

   Review of DMT Entity Paper "Traces of the Other" by Andrew Gallimore, Don Hoffman, and Niffe H. -#16

   Are DMT entities actually real? Science officially cares enough to start performing experiments to find out. In this episode us bros dive into the paper entitled "Traces of the Other: DMT Phenomenology in the Framework of Conscious Realism" by leading DMT and Conscious Realism Scientists Dr. Andrew Gallimore (@AlienInsect), Dr. Donald Hoffman, and Dr. Niffe Hermansson. Dr. Hanania goes hard in describing different theories of reality and in guiding us through this paper which focuses on how the theory of conscious realism fits in attempting to explain how we realistically could be accessing other entities (aka "conscious agents") during DMT trips, and the two of us discuss these implications. We also cover what experiments they are planning on doing on the "other side" while people are tripping to prove the existence of these entities as autonomous conscious agents and not just as a trippy figment of our imagination.

2. 

   14 Aug 2026

   Retreats: Jordan's InnerSpace Retreat Reflection, Hosted by Music Duo Days of Lavender - #15

   In this episode of Inner and Outer Worlds, Jordan reflects on a wholesome weekend at the beautiful 2026 InnerSpace Retreat, hosted by our friends Days of Lavender Music (https://open.spotify.com/artist/7Iq0QBMNUJjBwS7XicMOWE?si=mHxFy4gdQLuovU2C9y_Ccw). This weekend was full of sound baths, yoga, meditation, delicious health food and various musical acts performed throughout the weekend by Days of Lavender (https://open.spotify.com/artist/7Iq0QBMNUJjBwS7XicMOWE?si=mHxFy4gdQLuovU2C9y_Ccw) , Forrest Mortifee (https://open.spotify.com/artist/2YQJdQtHgTYz4u9vvf3DgJ?si=o4A12IwoQ5CAHdpSocp2EA), Navin Sahj Paul (https://open.spotify.com/artist/0xUjAzDGKbupupwYxN8VB5?si=1boMfz5qSv6Vyw-GyvyeQw) , and more. The bros also reflect on how revitalizing the 2025 InnerSpace Retreat was last year, and get into the concept of retreats and how needed wholesome experiences are in adulthood. Maybe, just maybe, they'll plant a seed in your brain for you to go check one out some day - Kool-aid not required.

3. 

   11 Aug 2026

   Changing Our Energetic State Part 2: State Changes through Focus & Stories (including Self-Talk, Identity and Meanings) - #14

   In part 2 of our state-change mini-series, Z&J dive deep into how the things we focus on, the language we use to assign meanings to events, and the self-talk we have with ourselves forms an identity - and how focus, meanings and self-talk has the ability to energize us or deplete us.In the episode, we get into a study done by Stanford University on Tony Robbins events and how the formula of State Change, Story Change, then Strategy Change can create lasting change due to neuroplasticity, especially when it comes to depression and anxiety.We discuss how certain types of meditations, plant medicines/psychedelics, learning new things, exercise and deep sleep also create the perfect condition for neuroplasticity (aka change in our lives!)It is through Exercise, Learning, Deep Sleep, Psychedelic Therapy, and certain meditative practices that we can enter a state of neuroplasticity, and when we follow this state with the right Focus, Self-Talk, and Assigned Meanings to Events, we can far more easily and permanently make lasting change in our lives, to overcome depression, anxiety, bad habits, addictions, or phobias.Join us as we get into the exciting concept of changing ourselves! Change is always possible. It just requires neuroplastic states of mind to be entered first (through physiological changes), and THEN followed up by telling new, more beneficial stories, assigning better meanings, and focusing on the right things. When we follow this, suddenly, change isn't so hard. Suddenly, discipline is easy.Resources:Stanford University Study of Tony Robbins' Date with Destiny Events:https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022395622001157The above study summarized:https://scienceoftonyrobbins.com/Dr. K Interview on Huberman Lab Podcasthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G2MRFs4vac&time_continue=2&source_ve_path=NzY3NTg&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bing.com%2F&embeds_referring_origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bing.com

4. 

   11 Aug 2026

   Changing Our Energetic State Part 1: Physiological Changes - Brain Series - #13

   To kick off our ongoing series on the brain, Dr. Jordan and I are starting off with 2 episodes on changing our energetic state. Our state can be defined as the snapshot of our physiology and psychology in any given moment, based on the exact neurons firing in the brain at that moment. Our state determines the amount of energy we have in that given moment, and with heightened energy we can show up to everything important in life better, from relationships, to career/life's work, to hobbies.In this episode, we discuss 5 ways to increase the physiological portion of our state, to give us a heightened sense of energy: exercise, music, posture, radical changes in our physiology (like cold plunges or breathwork), and diet/nutrition.These physiological changes profoundly impact our psychology as well, thanks to the neurotransmitters they release while performing them, and the neuroplasticity (changeability) they allow in our brain during and after the time we are physically active.Managing our state goes beyond just physiological changes though: our focus and the stories we tell ourselves about who we are, what events mean, and what type of world we live in deeply impact our energetic state, so in the next episode, we will dive into focus and stories and how these energize or deplete us.Lasting change is the result of first changing our physiological state so our brains can enter a state of neuroplasticity (changeability), and then choosing better focus and stories/meanings that energize us so we can show up for everything in life better.

5. 

   29 Jul 2026

   Vitamin E from Leafy Greens Impact on the Brain

   Vitamin E in leafy greens like lettuce, cabbage, kale, and spinach neutralize free radicals in the brain, preventing them from causing a chain reaction of atoms/molecules stealing electrons from one another and leaving portions of our brain not functioning properly due to the instability this causes. #science #brain #health Clipped from Episode #13 - Brain Series - Changing Our Energetic State - Part 1: Physiology

6. 

   1 Jun 2026

   #12 - The Power of Fiction

   (02:10) Exploring the Power of Fiction (03:04) Defining Fiction: A Spectrum of Reality (08:05) The Impact of Shared Fictions (26:39) The Emotional Depth of Fiction (33:13) The Importance of Emotional Payoff in Storytelling (41:59) Questioning Everyday Fictions and Systems (45:59) The Power of Shared Stories and Beliefs (51:24) The Causal Power of Fiction in Society (01:01:36) The Role of Identity in Storytelling (01:09:47) Perception and Reality: The Fiction of Self (01:17:43) Understanding the Psyche of Villains (01:24:57) The Nature of Reality as Fiction

7. 

   20 Apr 2025

   #11 - Jordan's Scientific Journey to His PhD (so far!)

   Jordan answers Z's interview questions about his early days finding interest in science, choosing Physics as his University Major, his undergrad program, Master's in Planetary Physics, and his new jam - a PhD in Medical Physics! Join us as we delve deep into his work with NASA studying data from a Mars rover, how consciousness fits into science, and his current research analyzing dopamine's affect on Parkinson's disease. 00:00 Intro 01:25 What first got Jordan interested in Science? 02:24 Sleep Walking is Channeling 10:00 Marijuana Opening Scientific Perspective 14:55 Does Science Become Repetitive if it's Not Innovative Science? 19:10 Choosing a Post Secondary Path 20:55 Jordan's Fave Aspects of Physics 32:50 Quantum Physics vs Classical Physics 38:57 Science Describes How Reality Behaves, Not What It Is 44:40 Beginning to Read Your Intuition 47:20 How Science Could Study Consciousness Better 50:45 What Is Knowledge? / Jordan Officially Believes In God 59:20 Statistical Mechanics 1:01:57 Jordan's Master's Mars Mission: Working With NASA In Guelph 1:22:35 Why The Change From Planetary Physics To Medical Physics? 1:24:00 Jordan's PhD Project: Studying Dopamine's Relation To Parkinson's Disease 1:26:29 Hanania Bros Interest In Investigating Reality 1:31:05 Biology, Complexity & Biological Information Transfer 1:35:44 Methods Of Expanding Mental Capacity1:41:17 Dopamine's Relation To The Brain & Body 1:48:12 Imaging Dopamine via PET Scans Using Glucose & Raclopride Molecules 1:53:35 Will We Eventually Be Able To Cure Parkinson's Disease? 1:54:44 Epigenetics: How Bad Are Stress Hormones In The Environment Of Our Body? 1:58:59 The Coolest Parts Of Jordan's PhD Program 2:01:09 How Much Appreciation Has Science Added to Jordo's Life? 2:03:50 Purely Human Feelings Add Even More Appreciation to Life 2:07:50 What Jordan Loves Most About Science 02:11:35 Paradigms Evolving 02:14:01 Is Science Jordan's Most Favorite Thing in Life? 02:16:23 What Gives Life The Most Meaning?

8. 

   6 Feb 2025

   #10 - Integration Series - Part 2

   While part 1 (Episode 9) of our Integration Series covered why integration is important and why we become fragmented from our true selves, this part 2 (Episode 10) gets into the nitty gritty of what our shadow self is, what shadow work (shadow integration) is, what dark and light polarity are in the universe and within ourselves, how excess hijacks our dopamine systems and creates a feedback loop of a desire for more consumption (leading to addiction), and why having an integrated and healthy balance of our dark and light sides is essential for living a fulfilling life of integrity. It's about accepting and loving all parts of ourselves like they are a family, so they don't feel neglected and act out, and so we can remain in integrity with our values and the people we care about. (00:00:55) Relationships are Key to Becoming Aware of Ourselves (00:04:18) Trauma and It's Role in Becoming Aware of Ourselves (00:08:13) Psychedelics / Plant Medicines and their role in Healing Trauma (00:14:10) The Shadow Self (00:20:05) Should We Actively Seek Out Our Shadow Self? (00:24:49) How the Self Becomes Fragmented: Compartmentalizing, Lying, and People-Pleasing (00:26:36) Demons and How it Feels like the Shadow is a Demon "Possessing" Us (00:27:20) Excess, Drugs, Porn, Dopamine, and the Shadow Self that Results from Excess Indulgence (00:32:04) Shadow Work (00:33:27) Integration = Befriending Your Shadow (00:34:10) Awakening, THEN Integrating; Becoming Aware of What's Inside, then Integrating it Into a Cohesive Sense of Self (00:35:40) Carl Jung's Outlook on The Shadow Self (00:36:36) Guilt vs. Shame (00:37:55) Why We Repress and Suppress (00:40:52) Dark and Light Polarity (00:48:29) The Power of Intention (00:50:48) Changing our Brains: Neurogenesis vs. Neuroplasticity (00:53:15) Jordan's AI Endeavors (00:58:20) Dark & Light Aspects of Self Need Balance (01:04:49) Unifying Duality into Oneness, through Integration (01:07:50) Integration vs. Assimilation (01:10:30) Integrating All Parts of Yourself like they're One Big Family #science #spirituality #mentalhealth #health #wellness

9. 

   12 Jan 2025

   #9 - Integration Series - Part 1

   Jordan and his guests explore the importance of integration in achieving inner and outer peace through a 3-part series on integrating the dark and light aspects of the self, and how this process is crucial for personal and global evolution.

10. 

    27 May 2024

    #8 – Shootin' the Shit about Consciousness

    Hey innie and outies! (never saying that again, sorry, had to say it once...). Welcome back to the pod. This time we shot the shit about things that we've been thinking about lately, and it turned out to be a solid 3+ hour conversation. We talk about the nature of reality and how science, spirituality, and conscious experience fit together. This involves the role of love, self respect, morality, and more. Thanks for joining us for this wild ride. Timestamps (00:00) introduction (05:10) Jordan’s current views on consciousness (11:30) consciousness vs intelligence (16:34) mind vs matter (29:25) lucid dreaming (36:10) what makes me “me” and you “you” (43:55) physics vs consciousness (51:48) higher dimensional information-preserving structures (1:07:35) spacetime is doomed (1:13:55) what was before the Big Bang? (1:23:41) scarcity and the theory of evolution (2:16:10) who/what chose the laws of physics? (2:37:18) love

11. 

    28 Mar 2024

    #7 - The Boys do LSD! - Trip Report

    Description Alas, Zach and Jordan, along with their amigo JJ, trip out together on LSD! In this trip report episode the boys tell the tale, that includes a magical majestic blue sphere-ish geometrical item that the universe dropped in their path, a landscape that changed in sync with their consciousness, heightened psychic abilities, creative powers, relationship drama and resolution, massive laughter, insane happiness, a new outlook on life, and all-in-all being one of the best days of their lives. Do drugs! Explore consciousness! And be safe about it. Also, you do not have to do drugs. Enjoy this episode and please, enjoy your beautiful life! Timestamps (00:00:00) Introduction (00:02:28) BEST. EXPERIENCE. EVER. (00:02:58) Safety Precautions (00:04:17) Dosage and Onset (00:06:12) - Setting (00:07:25) - Visuals (00:08:00) - Expanding Minds, Expanding Environment (00:10:26) - The Magical Blue Geometric Sphere (00:15:38) - Unnecessary Paranoia (00:17:18) - JJ Chillin Like a Villain (00:18:28) - Psychic Abilities! (00:23:27) - Majestic Chill Spot, Vice City-Esque (00:26:26) - Habibi Moments (00:29:10) - New Perspectives on Important Relationships (00:33:10) - Ideals: Stand for Something! (00:37:06) - Creativity & Influence (00:40:58) - Musical Serenading & Composer Possessing Jordan (00:40:58) - Donnie Darko (00:46:24) - The Science of Colour & Light (00:54:18) - Takeaways / Summary (00:58:40) - Where to Buy Legal LSD

12. 

    8 Mar 2024

    #6 – General Scientific Explanations on Fusion, Stars, DNA - and more! (Science Ep.2)

    Jordan gives a nice scientific explanation of how our sun came to be and the many benefits it gives us. Jordan then does a general science Q&A with Zach on a broad spectrum of sciency things, covering steam, function of DNA and other associated molecules, microscopes, telescopes, calculus, and A.I. Timestamps (00:00:00) Introduction (00:01:24) The Science of How We Got Here, on Earth, in the Milky Way Galaxy (00:06:45) Nuclear Fusion (00:20:11) Supernovas (00:26:20) Types of Stars (00:44:50) How Our Sun Impacts Earth (00:58:35) Muons (01:16:36) How Steam Travels (01:21:35) Functions of the DNA and Associated Molecules in Our Bodies (1:36:57) CERN Particle Accelerator (1:42:55) Microscopes and Telescopes Explained! (1:50:46) Most Beautiful Math Equation (02:04:28) Jordan's Favorite Type of Equations to Solve (02:10:10) WTF is Calculus? (02:18:55) A.I. (artificial intelligence) is the most leading-edge (and bleeding-edge) tech discovery of our time. (02:24:10) What are the main scientific discoveries we benefit from on a daily basis?

13. 

    1 Mar 2024

    #5 – Zach's First 5-MeO-DMT Experience - Trip Report

    The boys discuss Zach's experience with 5-MeO-DMT and the important lessons he learned from it. Timestamps (00:00:00) Introduction (00:04:20) 5MeO-DMT vs NN-DMT (00:15:08) What was Zach expecting? (00:19:34) Trip & 5 Lessons (00:24:20) Lesson 1: Relaxing is the Path to our True Selves (00:43:00) Lesson 2: Trust is the Fabric of the Universe (00:44:00) Lesson 3: Nothing Matters, or rather, no-THING matters (00:50:40) Lesson 4: We are our own Best Homie (00:57:10) Lesson 5: Trying to report back can diminish the trip

14. 

    23 Feb 2024

    #4 – Atoms in Motion: Understanding Temperature, Car Engines, and Fire (Science Ep.1)

    In this episode Jordan gives a solo lecture on atoms and how their little jiggling bodies make up much of the world we observe, followed by a question period with Zach. We also explain the lore behind the "YEOW" sound effect in the intro (skip to question period to hear that) Timestamps (00:00:00) Introduction (00:03:10) The Atomic Hypothesis (00:08:10) How Big is an Atom? (00:14:00) What is Temperature and Heat? & Phases of Water (00:21:10) Heat Transfer & why you shouldn’t touch a hot stove (00:25:00) What is Pressure? & The Ideal Gas Law (00:33:30) Engines: How to turn Heat into Work/Motion (00:39:00) Evaporation, Cooling & Why you blow on hot soup (00:47:00) What is Fire? Combustion: Turning Chemical Bonds into Heat (00:59:20) Question Period

15. 

    14 Feb 2024

    #3 – Free Will, Ethics, & Meaning in Life

    Today we discuss free will, determinism, ethics, justice, and meaning. Timestamps: (00:00:00) Introduction (00:03:00) Defining terms (00:09:15) Free will as related to Individualism (00:21:20) Determinism and Randomness (00:35:00) What do we have control over? (00:39:00) Computational Irreducibility and God (00:47:20) Free will of the ego vs universal will (00:49:25) Jung (00:55:45) Schopenhauer and Kastrup (01:00:50) Summary so far (01:06:15) Meaning / we are observers of the universe (01:11:52) Becoming present in the face of the immensity of reality (01:21:00) Identifying with nature (01:30:00) Eckhart Tolle (01:32:00) Sam Harris, Ethics, Empathy & Justice (01:41:08) Golems: collective behaviour gone wrong (01:49:12) Justice (01:55:13) Neale Donald Walsch (02:02:00) Zach sums things up

16. 

    8 Feb 2024

    #2 – Alien Information Theory by Andrew R. Gallimore | Cellular Automata, Reality, and DMT

    This episode we are summarizing the book "Alien Information Theory" by Andrew R. Gallimore, who is a computational neurobiologist, chemical pharmacologist, and writer. Timestamps: (00:00:00) Introduction (00:06:39) Information, Bits, Bytes (00:20:12) Information Processing (00:38:04) Rule-based Systems (00:42:20) Cellular Automata & The Game of Life (00:57:44) Complexity and Life (01:09:14) Our Universe as a Rule-based System (01:20:44) What is Life? (01:34:36) How Our Brain Creates Reality (02:06:46) Brain Connectivity: Structural, Functional, & Effective (02:16:01) How Psychedelics Affect the Brain (02:41:05) DMT Worlds: Entry, Structure, & Entity Encounters (02:58:45) Upwards and Downwards Information Flow (03:02:49) Where Does Consciousness Fit in this Model? (03:11:05) DMT, Information Flow, Pizza, Shircles (03:14:40) How to Change the Rules & Interdimensional Communication (03:23:14) Perturbation Brain Patterns & Becoming an Interdimensional Being (03:37:56) Summary (03:49:16) Zach asks a question but Jordan is too tired Links: Epic game of life: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2vgICfQawE Life in life: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP5-iIeKXE8 Conway himself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9Plq-D1gEk Buy the book: https://www.amazon.ca/Alien-Information-Theory-Psychedelic-Technologies/dp/1527234762

17. 

    1 Feb 2024

    #1 – Introduction to Inner and Outer Worlds: A Podcast on Science and Spirituality

    The boys share their backgrounds in science and spirituality and outline the intentions for this podcast. Buckle up, it's gonna get trippy.

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