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Inside Out: Mental Health at Work and in Life

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In this <a href="https://www.mentalhealthscot.land/" target="_blank">MHScot</a>-hosted podcast, we break down barriers and spark conversations about mental health. Starting in the workplace and extending outward, we’ll explore tools, stories, and initiatives that shape a healthier, more inclusive world. Whether you’re an employer, employee, or community member, tune in to discover actionable insights, challenge assumptions, and learn how nurturing well-being from the inside out helps us all thrive.

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July 27, 2026

Who Looks After the Leader?

In this episode of Inside Out: Mental Health at Work and in Life, I'm joined by Jodie Marshall, Founder and Managing Director of social enterprise A Mind Apart, and founder and owner of her consultancy and coaching company Mantleco Ltd. We start with a question most workplaces skip: who looks after the leader? Jodie is honest about her own burnout, and about how a burnt-out leadership can never build a team that isn't burnt out too. She explains why she deliberately put a therapist on her board, so that when hard conversations come up there is someone to bring the human angle, and so she has support of her own. From there the conversation widens into something rarely tied to mental health: money. Jodie makes the case that financial sustainability is a wellbeing issue. When an organisation is firefighting, wellbeing, training and development are the first things dropped. Get the business right, and you can reinvest in the people. We also talk about the fear running through employment right now, the young people entering work who are the COVID teenagers, and Jodie's argument that mental health belongs under the Equality Act, not just the HR inbox. 🔑 Key Topics <ul><li>Why a team can't be well if its leadership is burnt out, and who supports the leader</li><li>Building a board on purpose, putting a therapist in the room</li><li>Financial sustainability as the foundation of staff wellbeing</li><li>"What is not serving you?", the courage to drop what is draining the team</li><li>Fear-driven employment: probation, rights from day one, and getting stuck</li><li>Neurodiversity and treating a team as individuals, not one 40-hour mould</li><li>Shared responsibility between employers and workers, and the generation now entering work</li></ul> 💡 Did You Know? After A Mind Apart brought in creative therapy and proper wellbeing support for those they were working with and their team, serious safeguarding incidents with the young people they work with fell dramatically, from something close to a daily occurrence to a handful across a whole year. When you resource the people doing the work, the work itself changes. 📝 Actionable Takeaways <ul><li>Look after the leadership, not just the team, and ask your board to resource it</li><li>Treat financial sustainability as part of your wellbeing strategy, not separate from it</li><li>Ask of every service and commitment: is this still serving us? Be willing to stop</li><li>Do the market research before you launch. Piling untested ideas on your team is a wellbeing cost</li><li>Have the conversation about someone's working pattern and needs. Letting people lead it is not saying the wrong thing</li><li>If you are an SME without HR, get external support in place before you need it, through a chamber membership or ACAS</li></ul> 🗣️ Join the Conversation If you lead a small organisation, who looks after you? And what would change if you treated the health of your business and the health of your team as the same question? Connect with Jodie: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodie-marshall/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>, <a href="https://amindapart.org.uk/" target="_blank">A Mind Apart</a>, <a href="https://www.mantleco.io/" target="_blank">Mantle</a> <ol><li>https://www.linkedin.com/in/jodie-marshall/</li><li>https://amindapart.org.uk/</li><li>https://www.mantleco.io/</li></ol>

July 13, 2026

The Colleague You Think Is Fine: Trauma at Work

In this episode of Inside Out: Mental Health at Work and in Life, I'm joined by Tracey Secker, founder of Voices Social Enterprise, a non-profit raising awareness of domestic abuse, trauma and other forms of abuse, supporting both employees and employers through training, resources and events. Tracey also works with the charity Rape and Sexual Violence Project. Tracey came to this work through lived experience of domestic abuse and its long aftermath. She understands how trauma can shape the way someone responds to managers, colleagues and pressure at work, often without realising it at the time. That understanding sits underneath everything she now does. We talk about why a mentally healthy workplace starts with a culture that feels safe, open and supportive, and why so many people, including senior leaders, stay silent for fear of being judged or seen as weak. Tracey lays out the scale of the issue: around one in four women and one in six men experience domestic abuse in their lifetime, which means trauma is present in almost any workforce, whether it's current or historical. She's candid about the assumptions that get in the way. "It doesn't happen here" is, she argues, one of the most dangerous things a leader can believe. People hide it well. For some, work is the one place they feel in control, a safe space they protect by becoming someone else for the day. The fix isn't to turn managers into counsellors. It's far simpler, and it belongs to everyone: notice, ask, listen, believe, and point people towards the right support. 🔑 Key Topics <ul><li>Why a mentally healthy workplace starts with a culture that feels safe, open and supportive</li><li>The scale of domestic abuse and trauma in any workforce, and the ONS figures behind it</li><li>How historical trauma, coercive control and post-separation abuse follow people into work</li><li>Why "it doesn't happen here" is the assumption that does the most damage</li><li>Work as a safe space, and the quiet signs someone may be surviving something at home</li><li>Supporting people without being a counsellor: hear, believe, listen, signpost</li><li>Policies that mean something versus tick-box policies that don't</li><li>Why checking in on each other is everyone's job, not just managers'</li></ul> 💡 Did You Know? Around one in four women and one in six men experience domestic abuse in their lifetime (ONS). In a team of ten, the maths is unavoidable: someone you work alongside is likely carrying it, current or historical, whether you can see it or not. 📝 Actionable Takeaways <ul><li>Don't assume trauma isn't present. Find out. Even an anonymous QR-code check-in can surface what you can't see</li><li>When someone opens up, hear, believe and listen first. You don't have to fix it</li><li>Be honest about your limits. Don't promise what you can't deliver, and signpost to specialist support</li><li>Make your policies (domestic abuse, menopause, mental health) mean something, and live by them from the top down</li><li>Check in on people, including the ones at the top who rarely get asked</li><li>Treat a disclosure as a chance to support and educate, not automatically to discipline</li></ul> 🗣️ Join the Conversation When did someone last ask you, simply, "are you okay?", and what difference did it make? Share your thoughts and connect with us on social media. Connect with Tracey Secker on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tracey-secker-9522b047/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://www.voices-social-enterprise.co.uk" target="_blank">Voices Social Enterprise</a> <ol><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tracey-secker-9522b047/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/tracey-secker-9522b047/</a></li><li>Voices Social Enterprise: <a href="https://www.voices-social-enterprise.co.uk" target="_blank">https://www.voices-social-enterprise.co.uk</a></li></ol> If anything in this episode affects you, support is available. In the UK, the National Domestic Abuse Helpline (run by Refuge) is free on 0808 2000 247, 24 hours a day. If phoning isn't safe or possible, you can also reach them through the live chat on their website: <a href="https://www.nationaldahelpline.org.uk" target="_blank">https://www.nationaldahelpline.org.uk</a>

June 29, 2026

Leading with Humility: Why the Best Bosses Stay Human

In this episode of Inside Out: Mental Health at Work and in Life, I'm joined by Steven Pink, who is the CEO of Verve Healthcare, a SELDOC Group company. Steven has worked in retail, banking, aviation, the NHS and private healthcare. You will hear in the podcast how experiences from each of these industries have shaped Steven's view on how to lead well. Steven's route to leadership has been interesting, starting as a 16-year-old selling men's suits in Marks and Spencer to leading two healthcare businesses as CEO: Verve Healthcare and SELDOC. That breadth shows in how he thinks about work. For Steven, a mentally healthy workplace is one where people get something back for themselves, not just a wage, but a sense of purpose, challenge and growth. He makes the case that we often have far more agency over our working lives than we think. We need to take hold of it. We talk about reflection as a vital discipline rather than a luxury. We consider why leaders who never carve out time to think end up leading with tunnel vision, and how saying no in a good way is an important technique you can learn; it isn't just about confidence. Steven shares his own turning point on health and fitness, and what changed when he finally treated his own wellbeing as a priority. He's also candid about the kind of leader he wanted to become. After working for some excellent bosses and some poor ones, he set out to build the kind of workplace he wished he'd been in when he was unhappy. The result: 97% workforce retention over five years in his current business, without the need to always be the best payer. His explanation is disarmingly simple, just be a bit human. 🔑 Key Topics <ul><li>Why purpose and challenge matter as much as pay for mental health at work</li><li>The agency we have over our own working lives, and why we underestimate it</li><li>Reflection as a leadership discipline, and building structure to protect it</li><li>Saying no by offering an alternative, a learnable technique, not just confidence</li><li>Leaders not always putting themselves last, and why looking after yourself isn't selfish</li><li>Building the workplace you wish you'd had: humanity, belonging and retention</li><li>Influence with humility, and the responsibility that comes with seniority</li></ul> 💡 Did You Know? Steven's business holds 97% staff retention over more than five years, despite, in his words, not always being the best payer. His reason: once people arrive, it's simply a good, human place to be. Genuine kindness and low ego are vital ingredients for effective leadership. 📝 Actionable Takeaways <ul><li>Decide what gives you value from your work, then engineer more of it into your week</li><li>Protect time to reflect, whether that's the gym, a walk, or talking it through with someone you trust</li><li>Practise saying no with an alternative: "I can't really do that this week, but I can do a great job with it next week. Would that work for you?"</li><li>Treat your own health and wellbeing as your number one priority; allow other things to reorganise around it</li><li>If your team look nervous or avoid you, treat it as feedback on your leadership, not on them, change how you are</li><li>Use influence with humility, the bigger your role, the greater your responsibility</li></ul> 🗣️ Join the Conversation When did you last give yourself real time to reflect, and what changed when you did? Share your thoughts and connect with us on social media. Connect with Steven: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevenpink123/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> | <a href="https://www.vervehealthcare.co.uk/" target="_blank">Verve Healthcare</a> <ol><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevenpink123/" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevenpink123/</a></li><li><a href="https://www.vervehealthcare.co.uk/" target="_blank">https://www.vervehealthcare.co.uk/</a></li></ol>

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What is Inside Out: Mental Health at Work and in Life?: In this <a href="https://www.mentalhealthscot.land/" target="_blank">MHScot</a>-hosted podcast, we break down barriers and spark conversations about mental health. Starting in the workplace and extending outward, we’ll explore tools, stories, and initiatives that shape a healthier, more inclusive world. Whether you’re an employer, employee, or community member, tune in to discover actionable insights, challenge assumptions, and learn how nurturing well-being from the inside out helps us all thrive.
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