This is the Outcome Economy Podcast. The best strategies, business models and jobs today are all about outcomes, not about input or output, not about products or billable hours. The Outcome Economy Podcast hosts leaders that enable their organizations to focus on the ultimate value for the customer and on the outcomes for all stakeholders. We talk about their goals and how they work with their teams to achieve them.

Inside Outcomes: the podcast for strategists and the strategy execution community
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This is the Outcome Economy Podcast. The best strategies, business models and jobs today are all about outcomes, not about input or output, not about products or billable hours. The Outcome Economy Podcast hosts leaders that enable their organizations to focus on the ultimate value for the customer and on the outcomes for all stakeholders. We talk about their goals and how they work with their teams to achieve them.
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Recent Episodes

December 16, 2025
SPECIAL EDITION: AI, Humanocracy and the Future of Work - With Michele Zanini
<p>What does it take to transform a tens-of-thousands-employee enterprise like Bayer? In this Outcome Economy episode, Michele Zanini explains why the status quo is indefensible, why agile and OKRs fail without systemic change, and how outcome-based organizations align strategy, resource allocation, and local autonomy. Recorded at the Peter Drucker Forum, the conversation dives into front-runner teams, capabilities, perseverance in downturns, and why boards underestimate the risk of doing nothing.</p>

October 30, 2024
Driving transformation in corporate IT and product organizations - with Bruno Bonando from REWE Digital
<p>Bruno Bonando is Director of Customer Relations and Sales at REWE Digital, the digital organization of REWE Group - one of Europe’s largest retail and tourism enterprises, with brands like REWE, Penny, Toom, Lekkerland, and ITS Travel. Bruno, former Vice President of Technology at MediaMarkt Saturn and Head of Engineering at Cazoo, originally comes from Brazil, but has been working in Europe for many years. </p> <p><strong>In this episode of the Outcome Economy Podcast Bruno and Johannes speak about</strong></p> <ul> <li>Digital Transformation in the retail industry (2:30)</li> <li>The Role of OKRs in Product Org Transformations and new ways of working (12:35)</li> <li>Challenges in adopting OKRs (15:00)</li> <li>Embedding direction and metrics into daily routines (17:20)</li> <li>Proving business impact as IT or Digital Organization (19:50)</li> <li>Communication between business and tech and across silos (24:18)</li> <li>Recommendations and learning resources (31:00)</li> </ul> <p><strong>Bruno’s reading and podcast recommendations</strong></p> <ul> <li><em>Measure What Matters</em> <a href="https://amzn.eu/d/a87oxXJ" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://amzn.eu/d/a87oxXJ</a> </li> <li><em>Leaders Eat Last</em> <a href="https://amzn.eu/d/0SfxaqH" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://amzn.eu/d/0SfxaqH</a></li> <li><em>The Tim Ferriss Show </em><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/5qSUyCrk9KR69lEiXbjwXM" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://open.spotify.com/show/5qSUyCrk9KR69lEiXbjwXM</a><em></em></li> <li><em>Masters of Scale</em> <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/1bJRgaFZHuzifad4IAApFR" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://open.spotify.com/show/1bJRgaFZHuzifad4IAApFR</a></li> <li><em>The Deal Podcast</em> <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6Fer4LFL94q6eMulaqQORH" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://open.spotify.com/show/6Fer4LFL94q6eMulaqQORH</a></li> </ul> <p><strong>How to connect with Bruno</strong></p> <p>Linkedin: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brunobonando/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.linkedin.com/in/brunobonando/</a></p>

August 26, 2024
Resilience strategies in turbulent times - how the Circular Economy can drive efficiency and new business growth
<p>"Business model transformation requires new operating models, metrics and ways of working.”</p> <p>After spending several years at McKinsey, this episode’s guest Dr. Manuel Braun joined Systemiq, a think tank and consultancy for the circular economy and for sustainable business transformation. Manuel is a lecturer at the Technical University of Munich (TUM) and an author who just published his book „The Circular Business Revolution“ in July 2024.</p> <p><strong>In this episode of the Outcome Economy Podcast Manuel and Johannes speak about:</strong></p> <ul> <li>The principles of circular business models and a more circular economy (2:35)</li> <li>Data from the “Global Resources Outlook” on the development of world wide resource consumption and its influence on climate change (04:20)</li> <li>“Nature risk is business risk”: Why circularity is relevant for business and how this relevance has grown over the last 7 years (6:30)</li> <li>Business model transformation and the 5 different business model archetypes building on circularity, combining business cases with an environmental case (9:18)</li> <li>How circularity is applicable to most industries, explained on the examples of Hilti and several other companies (16:55)</li> <li>How circular business models and strategies require a shift in ways of working and operating models (22:00)</li> <li>Three layers of implementation to make a circular business model transformation work and circularity strategies succeed (23:00)</li> <li>Strategic top level KPIs that need to shift in order to master the transformation, with an example of Philips (26:00)</li> <li>The relevance of partnerships and ecosystem oriented strategies for this transformation (30:55)</li> <li>What else you can learn from Manuel’s book and the mission he pursues with it (33:50)</li> </ul> <p><strong>Mentioned sources and recommendations</strong></p> <ul> <li>The Global Resources Outlook: <a href="https://www.resourcepanel.org/reports/global-resources-outlook-2024" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.resourcepanel.org/reports/global-resources-outlook-2024</a></li> <li>Manuel’s book „The Circular Business Revolution“: <a href="https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Julia-Binder/dp/1292458968" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Julia-Binder/dp/1292458968</a></li> <li>The “XaaS: Everything as a Service” Paper: <a href="https://www.systemiq.earth/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/XaaS-MainReport.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.systemiq.earth/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/XaaS-MainReport.pdf</a></li> <li>Hilti’s Fleet Management Strategy - HBS Case Study: <a href="https://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Pages/item.aspx?num=52550" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Pages/item.aspx?num=52550</a></li> </ul> <p><strong>How to connect with Manuel</strong></p> <ul> <li>Linkedin: <a href="https://de.linkedin.com/in/manuelbraun2016" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://de.linkedin.com/in/manuelbraun2016</a></li> <li>Mail: <a href="mailto:manuel.braun@systemiq.earth" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">manuel.braun@systemiq.earth</a> <br></li> </ul>
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