The Interum Era is a podcast about navigating the messy middle of work and life. Hosted by veteran marketers Matt See and Mark Palmer, the show explores the realities of career transitions, job hunts, and the personal ups and downs that come with them. Expect honest conversations, stories from the front lines, and insights from experts on mental health, leadership, and what it takes to keep moving forward when nothing feels certain.
What Job Loss Really Does to a Marriage | The Interim Era | E8
What really happens to a marriage when a job disappears?
In this episode of The Interim Era, we flip the mic and invite our wives into the conversation to talk honestly about what it’s like living with someone navigating job loss, burnout, identity shifts, and an unpredictable job market.
This isn’t career advice from a guru. It’s the unfiltered truth from the people who carried the emotional weight when the paychecks stopped.
We talk about:
What layoffs actually do to families and marriages
The emotional toll of long job searches
Imposter syndrome, shame, and self-worth
How support turns into exhaustion—and back again
Why the “interim era” affects everyone, not just the person out of work
There’s humor, tough love, and moments that might hit a little too close to home.
If you’re unemployed, supporting someone who is, or quietly struggling through your own interim era, you’re not alone.
🎙 Hosted by Matt See & Mark Palmer
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11 Nov 2025
How to Hold On When It All Falls Apart | The Interim Era | E7
When you lose your job, it can feel like losing your identity. In this episode, Pastor Larry joins Mark and Matt to talk about the spiritual, emotional, and deeply human side of job loss and transition. They explore the grief of losing your title, the role of community and soul care, and why “everything happens for a reason” might be the wrong message.Whether you’re a person of faith or just looking for meaning in the middle of chaos, this episode is a grounding reminder: The worst thing is not the last thing.🔔 Subscribe for more raw and real conversations about the messy middle.
28 Oct 2025
How to Win the LinkedIn Game | The Interim Era | E6
Your LinkedIn posts aren’t working. Here’s why.
In this episode of The Interim Era, we sit down with LinkedIn ghostwriter Maria Marhefka to break down the scroll-stopping secrets behind personal branding, content that connects, and how to build trust (not cringe) on LinkedIn.
We cover:
The truth about ghostwriting and finding your voice online
Why executives need to stop hiding behind company pages
The MEAL method: a simple formula for writing great LinkedIn posts
The golden hour, content sandwiches, and how NOT to “post and ghost”
How jobseekers can use LinkedIn to grow visibility, not just virality
Whether you’re between jobs or just want to show up better online, this episode will change how you think about LinkedIn.
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🔗 Maria’s website: https://www.mariawritescopy.com/
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14 Oct 2025
Touch Grass. Shower. Apply. | The Interim Era | E5
Job searching got you spiraling? You’re not alone. In this episode of The Interim Era, we sit down with counselor Katie Gray Hundley, LPC, to talk about the weird mental gymnastics of layoffs, why your libido crashes when your self-worth tanks, and how trying to treat your job hunt like a 9–5 is actually making things worse.
We get real about:
😬 The emotional whiplash of rejection
🧠 Identity loss and imposter syndrome
🛁 Why routines like showering (yes, really) matter
❤️ Layoffs and libido (it’s a thing)
🌱 Why you need to touch grass and reconnect with real life
If you’re in the thick of it, this episode is for you. It’s funny, honest, and just might help you feel a little less alone.
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30 Sept 2025
I Paid $1,600 For A Resume | The Interim Era | E4
The job search can feel brutal: hundreds of applications, constant ghosting, and endless rejection. But what if the problem isn’t you — it’s your strategy?In this episode of The Interim Era, Matt See and Mark Palmer talk with career advisor and former recruiter Hayley McNeal Drake. With years of experience on the hiring side, Hayley pulls back the curtain on what actually gets candidates noticed and what gets them skipped in seconds.What we cover:✅ Why “Easy Apply” is a trap for most job seekers✅ Resume mistakes that kill your chances instantly✅ The truth about ATS systems (and how to actually get through)✅ How to fix confusing job titles so recruiters understand your role✅ The underrated power of LinkedIn comments and conversations✅ Staying confident and sane when rejection piles upWhether you’re in the middle of a job search, burned out from ghosting, or just want to know how recruiters really think, this conversation will help you cut through the noise and land your next role.👉 Watch, subscribe, and join the conversation.
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16 Sept 2025
I Just Can't Sleep | The Interim Era | E3
Losing a job isn’t just about updating your resume—it’s about sleepless nights, stress, and the mental health struggles that come with career transitions. In this episode of The Interim Era Podcast, hosts Matt See and Mark Palmer sit down with Dr. Kelly O’Malia, a former chief medical officer and seasoned physician, to unpack the hidden toll of job loss.They discuss: • How layoffs impact mental health • Coping with rejection and “any job updates?” questions • Why routines and structure are crucial during unemployment • Practical strategies for staying positive and resilient • When to recognize stress as something more seriousThis conversation is a reminder that caring for your mental health isn’t something you do after the job search ends—it’s part of how you get through it.👉 If you’re between jobs, considering a career change, or simply need encouragement, this episode is for you.🧭 How to Find Local Support • Call 211 – Free service that connects you with local clinics and resources. • Check with your PCP – Your primary doctor can refer you to therapists or support programs. • Use directories – NAMI, SAMHSA, or Psychology Today let you search by ZIP code. • Community groups – Local health departments, churches, and nonprofits often offer free or low-cost programs. • In crisis? Dial 988 – The Suicide & Crisis Lifeline is available 24/7.🌐 Additional Mental Health Tools • Headspace – Meditation and mindfulness app • Calm – Guided sleep, stress, and relaxation support • National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI) – Education, support groups, and helplines • 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline – 24/7 free and confidential support in the U.S.Subscribe for more conversations about navigating career transitions, resilience, and the realities of work and life in the interim era.
2 Sept 2025
Death of the Cover Letter | The Interim Era | E2
In this episode of The Interim Era, Matt and Mark bring in a voice from the other side of the job search: longtime recruiter Erik Winkler. With more than 25 years in talent acquisition, Erik doesn’t hold back on what recruiters really look for, what gets candidates tossed aside, and why the cover letter might finally be dead.
The conversation digs into the realities of today’s hiring process—AI screening, overloaded recruiters, and the human element that often gets lost. Erik shares candid insights on what stands out in a resume, whether LinkedIn messages actually work, and the biggest mistakes candidates make at every level.
If you’ve ever wondered how recruiters really think, or if you’re tired of sending applications into the void, this episode offers perspective, practical takeaways, and a few hot takes you won’t want to miss.
19 Aug 2025
From Rejection to Reset | Interim Era Podcast | E1
In the premiere of The Interim Era, Matt opens with a story many can relate to: a Friday evening rejection email that became the spark for this podcast. From there, he sits down with co-host Mark Palmer for an honest conversation about why they’re starting this journey together and what they hope to uncover along the way.
This first episode introduces the heart of the show: exploring the ups and downs of career transitions, sharing strategies for staying resilient, and bringing in voices from mental health experts, recruiters, and leaders who know what it takes to navigate uncertain times. Whether you’re in the middle of a job search, considering a career pivot, or simply looking for encouragement, this episode sets the stage for a podcast built to help.
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