Get Paid for Sharing Good Links | Internet Explorers Ep. 81
Creative coder Mike Bodge discusses AUX, his gamified curation tool, with hosts Jess, Josh, and Peace, exploring its potential to reshape internet attention and reward good links in this interview.
18 May 2025
Forget VC: Founders Turn to "Internet Capital Markets" | Internet Explorers Ep. 80
Will the concept of "Internet Capital Markets" reshape how founders raise capital?
This episode explores the implications of platforms like Believe, which enable app developers to bypass traditional VC funding. Featuring guest co-host Jarrod Dicker, the discussion delves into the challenges and opportunities of this new paradigm, including the tension between short-term speculation and long-term value creation. The conversation examines the evolving dynamics between founders, investors, and users in the crypto ecosystem, and considers how consumer crypto apps might redefine the role of blockchain platforms in the future.
This episode unpacks
How "Internet Capital Markets" might redefine fundraising
Believe’s app-store-style token launch approach
Tokenomics: bonding curves, AMMs, and “quote pair” models
Speculator demand versus compounding network value
Lessons from 2017 ICOs and current regulatory gray areas
Retail token buyers as long-term investors—or not
The extraction dilemma in high-velocity markets
Stablecoins and RWAs as on-ramps to mass adoption
B2B integrations fueling broader crypto consumer apps
Designing token incentives for emotional engagement
Chapters:
0:00 — Intro: Bullish outlook on crypto space
5:21 — Internet Capital Markets and token launchers
10:57 — Challenges of expanding the crypto buyer pool
16:14 — Balancing consumer needs with blockchain expectations
21:54 — Potential of micro-transactions in crypto products
27:22 — Impact of consumer crypto apps on market dynamics
32:09 — B2B as gateway for broader consumer adoption
37:55 — Importance of expanding beyond existing crypto users
43:52 — Metrics and transparency in crypto companies
50:40 — Consumer apps challenging L1/L2 blockchain narratives
56:48 — Speculative demand as driver for new users
1:02:16 — Optimism for crypto space despite regulatory challenges
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11 May 2025
Don’t Get Rugged by an AI Agent | Internet Explorers Ep. 79
What happens when you unleash thousands of AI agents into a fake economy filled with scams, memecoins, and market manipulation? Poof from DX Terminal joins Internet Explorers to explain why that might be the future of crypto.
In this week’s episode of Internet Explorers, we dive into the second banana zone with a special guest: Poof from DX Terminal. The gang explores DX Terminal’s wild new simulation—a weeklong, no-stakes, AI-generated memecoin market that’s equal parts Mario Kart and Wolf of Wall Street.
They also unpack a massive week of mainstream adoption: Stripe’s move into stablecoins, Meta’s rumored payout rails, and Robinhood’s blockchain ambitions. Meanwhile, consumer apps like Focus Tree are outpacing entire L2s, and Jess asks the big one: do chains even matter anymore?
From social wallets to speculative agents, this episode is a chaotic ride through the bleeding edge of consumer crypto—and the internet-native markets it’s giving birth to.
This episode unpacks:
Stripe’s stablecoin strategy and why it matters
DX Terminal’s AI simulation of an onchain memecoin market
Why Poof ditched real-world tokens for in-game economics
How Focus Tree beat StarkNet in daily users
Why crypto Twitter kills retention
The power of mini apps on social wallets
DX Terminal’s art collaboration with Gremlin
Lessons from training thousands of AI trading agents
Why ephemeral software may be the next big thing
How Poof thinks about the “autonomous economy”
Chapters:
0:00 — Intro: Crypto market sentiment and recent news
5:37 — DX Terminal: AI agent simulation of crypto world
11:28 — Stablecoins and mainstream crypto adoption accelerating
18:01 — Building for broader market vs crypto Twitter
23:29 — Focus Tree: Successful consumer crypto app example
29:05 — DX Terminal: Details on gameplay and launch
34:48 — Reflections on working with AI for 5 months
41:07 — Ephemeral software and AI experimentation insights
48:38 — Advice for getting into AI development
54:57 — Coinbase Wallet integrating Farcaster: Potential challenges
1:02:31 — Minia demo day highlights and Zora episode
Internet Explorers is a weekly rundown show where extremely online individuals broadly explore (romanticize, even) new consumer Internet experiences.
Join us live on Twitter/X, Fridays 10am PT / 1pm ET.
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