About Interview with a Bothan: A Star Wars Podcast
Join Lenny Apesos and Lou Laverty as they dive into the world of Star Wars literature (Canon and Legends). We are just a couple of guys who love books and are doing this for the love of the game.
Cover art by Lenny Apesos. Music by Thomas Seibel.
All of the narrative threads come together in the final twelve chapters of Timothy Zahn’s Vision of the Future (1998). The fact that Lenny has started watching Star Trek: Deep Space 9 prompts Lou to offer an impromptu review of a recent Strange New Worlds episode, Once La’an a Time (yes, they are both aware this is, in fact, a Star Wars podcast). Following Lou’s philosophy on the canonicity of fanfic, the two take some time to speculate on the sex lives of a myriad of romantic duos in Star Wars. Then Lenny gets deep in the weeds of Jorj Car’das’ personal history, and concludes with some thoughts about the relationship between history and heritage.
Hosts: Lenny Apesos and Lou Laverty
Art: Lenny Apesos
Music: Thomas Seibel
Have questions, comments, or concerns? Email us at interviewwithabothan@gmail.com (mailto:interviewwithabothan@gmail.com)
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Further reading:
The Structure of Unions (1955) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVDAy2NQTOU)
Norma Rae (1979) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norma_Rae)
Yoda Goes Through a Divorce (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9HuB_r-d18)
The Uses of Heritage (2006) by Laurajane Smith (https://www.taylorfrancis.com/books/mono/10.4324/9780203602263/uses-heritage-laurajane-smith)
18 Sept 2026
26 - Vision of the Future (Part 2)
Lou and Lenny continue their reading of Timothy Zahn’s 1998 Vision of the Future! This time, Lenny has read a trope-y romance novel in preparation for further discussion of Luke and Mara’s dynamic, which takes the shape of Lou asking them to rephrase bits of dialogue in the style of Julia Quinn (author of the Bridgerton series). The two also consider the ramifications of Luke Skywalker’s presumably lacklustre sex-education on Tatooine. Finally, Lou explains to Lenny what a death cult is and why The Empire of the Hand is one.
Hosts: Lenny Apesos and Lou Laverty
Art: Lenny Apesos
Music: Thomas Seibel
Have questions, comments, or concerns? Email us at interviewwithabothan@gmail.com (mailto:interviewwithabothan@gmail.com)
Find us elsewhere on the internet!
Substack: interviewwithabothan.substack.com (http://interviewwithabothan.substack.com)
Bluesky:
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yungesiuol.bsky.social (https://bsky.app/profile/yungesiuol.bsky.social)
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Further Reading:
Noises Off (1982) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noises_Off)
“An Apology”, a Star Wars April Fool’s Day Story (https://web.archive.org/web/20120403153706/https://star-wars.suvudu.com/2012/04/post-star-wars-fate-of-the-jedi-news-and-exclusive-epilogue-by-timothy-zahn.html)
Because of Miss Bridgerton (2016) by Julia Quinn (https://juliaquinn.com/books/because-of-miss-bridgerton/)
The Harrowing of Hell (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrowing_of_Hell#Scripture)
Sabbatai Zevi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabbatai_Zevi)
4 Sept 2026
25 - Vision of the Future (Part 1)
In a devastating turn of events for one of our hosts, Lou and Lenny’s discussion of the first 15 chapters of Timothy Zahn’s Vision of the Future (1998) reveals Lenny’s complete and utter obliviousness to romantic subtext. You see, while focusing on Luke and Mara’s discussion of their relationship with the force, Lenny completely missed that this conversation was taking place in the context of their lingering feelings for each other. This episode also features more references to the Schism of 1054 than one might expect, but we’ve never claimed to stay on task. Are the Habs Star Wars? Is the Bishop of Rome Star Wars? You'd think so given how much we talk about them.
Hosts: Lenny Apesos and Lou Laverty
Art: Lenny Apesos
Music: Thomas Seibel
Have questions, comments, or concerns? Email us at interviewwithabothan@gmail.com (mailto:interviewwithabothan@gmail.com)
Find us elsewhere on the internet!
Substack: interviewwithabothan.substack.com (http://interviewwithabothan.substack.com)
Bluesky: interviewwabothan.bsky.social (https://bsky.app/profile/interviewwabothan.bsky.social)
Further Reading:
The Disneyfication of Authorship: Above-the-Line Creative Labor in the Franchise Era (https://scholarlypublishingcollective.org/uip/jfv/article-abstract/73/3/3/287609/The-Disneyfication-of-Authorship-Above-the-Line?redirectedFrom=fulltext)
Hell on Wheels (2011-2016) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell_on_Wheels_(TV_series))
Brigham Young (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigham_Young)
Bartholomew I of Constantinople (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartholomew_I_of_Constantinople)
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