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Invincible Ignorance

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Invincible Ignorance is hosted by David Rieff and Lee Siegel In Catholic theology, "invincible ignorance" means that you cannot be thought to have sinned if you are unaware of the precepts you are sinning against. Ignorance in this case is considered innocence, if not bliss. In our secular appropriation of the concept--we call it "II"--we plead ignorance of the self-evident truth of the various orthodoxies that plague us. Thus we cannot be blamed for affronting them. We mean well. Instead of uniform, block thinking, we will try to follow the thread of truth through dissimilarity. We want, in other words, to have high conversational fun, and this will include ideas, argument, gossip (a form of social history) and the occasional settling of a score. Later, if our luck holds, we will have guests. In the meantime, we hope that II will offer a humanly warm, playful respite, both from the solemn, all-knowing cluelessness of AI, and the roiling gloom of our startling times. David Rieff is the author of eleven books. His work has focused on migration, humanitarian aid, war, and the politics of memory. Since the full scale Russian invasion of Ukraine in 2022, he has divided his time between New York City and Kyiv. Lee Siegel writes about politics and culture. He is a columnist for the New Statesman, the author of seven books, and a recipient of the National Magazine Award. In 2024 and 2025, he was an Open Society Foundations Ideas Workshop Fellow.

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March 27, 2026

Hope, Attention and the Crisis of the Humanities

<p>Amid the collapse of university humanities programs, the rise of identity politics, and the relentless commercialization of culture, conservatives have revived the claim that great books and artistic tradition can redeem the nation. Lee Siegel and David Rieff aren't buying it. Their argument: treating art as a civilizational rescue mission distorts what makes it valuable in the first place. Art resists usefulness. It cultivates what Siegel describes as a quality of absolute attention that no political program of cultural renewal can manufacture. Rieff goes on to express an historicist skepticism, suggesting that Western culture may not be in crisis so much as ending. Siegel pushes back on the fatalism. Our crises are real, he argues, but they're not final. Hope matters. Attention matters. And art, whether it can save us or not, still does something no other human activity quite manages. </p> <p>Executive producer Matty Rosenberg<br> Edited by Lee Siegel, David Rieff, and Matty Rosenberg<br> Additional video editing by Matty Rosenberg and Esther Martel<br> Music arrangement and performance by Matt Schreiber </p> <p>Email comments@radiofreerhinecliff.org or call 845-307-7446<br> This is a production of <a href="https://radiofreerhinecliff.org">Radio Free Rhinecliff</a></p>

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March 20, 2026

The Fragile Self in the Age of Trump

<p>Lee Siegel and David Rieff take on Trump's cult of personality, using a surprising entry point: an American figure skater at the Olympics falling on the ice while skating to the sound of his own voice. For Lee, it's the perfect emblem of a society where people are so wrapped up in their heads that they have no idea what to do when the country is stolen from them. The conversation continues into a broad exploration of American public life. Lee argues that the "rugged individual" of an earlier era has given way to the "fragile self," with a dramatically lowered threshold for trauma and vulnerability and a correspondingly greater hunger for strong leaders. David dismisses this, excoriating the therapeutic and trauma-inflected language he believes has been manufactured by liberal elites. The two spar over where Trump  fits into America history, discussing his recklessness, the question of Trump's luck, and the puzzle of why a period of peace and prosperity put the mad, autocratic Trump in the White House in the first place.. </p> <p>Executive producer Matty Rosenberg<br> Edited by Lee Siegel, David Rieff, and Matty Rosenberg<br> Additional video editing by Matty Rosenberg and Esther Martel<br> Music arrangement and performance by Matt Schreiber </p> <p>Email comments@radiofreerhinecliff.org or call 845-307-7446<br> This is a production of <a href="https://radiofreerhinecliff.org">Radio Free Rhinecliff</a></p>

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March 13, 2026

Norm-Shattering and Spellbinding: A Conversation About Charisma, Trump, and What Comes Next

<p>Lee Siegel and co-host David Rieff discuss charisma in American politics, using Trump's State of the Union and Max Weber's definition of charisma  to explore how Trump's norm-shattering, story-driven persona rivets even his critics. They debate whether right-wing populism can survive without Trump, noting that charismatic leaders rarely pass power on and arguing that figures like JD Vance lack similar appeal, while Democrats also hunt for charisma in personalities like Zohran Mamdani and a Maine congressional candidate. The conversation contrasts Trump with routinized bureaucratic politics, examines gender backlash, resentment, performative cruelty, and the fragmentation of modern personality. The hosts consider de-democratization, wealth concentration, party incoherence, and structural features of the American system. They end skeptical that either party can easily find a comparable charismatic successor. </p> <p>Executive producer Matty Rosenberg<br> Edited by Lee Siegel, David Rieff, and Matty Rosenberg<br> Additional video editing by Matty Rosenberg and Esther Martel<br> Music arrangement and performance by Matt Schreiber </p> <p>Email comments@radiofreerhinecliff.org or call 845-307-7446<br> This is a production of <a href="https://radiofreerhinecliff.org">Radio Free Rhinecliff</a></p>

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Invincible Ignorance is hosted by David Rieff and Lee Siegel

In Catholic theology, "invincible ignorance" means that you cannot be thought to have sinned if you are unaware of the precepts you are sinning against. Ignorance in this case is considered innocence, if not bliss. In our secular appropriation of the concept--we call it "II"--we plead ignorance of the self-evident truth of the various orthodoxies that plague us. Thus we cannot be blamed for affronting them. We mean well. Instead of uniform, block thinking, we will try to follow the thread of truth through dissimilarity. We want, in other words, to have high conversational fun, and this will include ideas, argument, gossip (a form of social history) and the occasional settling of a score. Later, if our luck holds, we will have guests. In the meantime, we hope that II will offer a humanly warm, playful respite, both from the solemn, all-knowing cluelessness of AI, and the roiling gloom of our startling times.

David Rieff is the author of eleven books. His work has focused on migration, humanitarian aid, war, and the politics of memory. Since the full scale Russian invasion of Ukraine in 2022, he has divided his time between New York City and Kyiv.

Lee Siegel writes about politics and culture. He is a columnist for the New Statesman, the author of seven books, and a recipient of the National Magazine Award. In 2024 and 2025, he was an Open Society Foundations Ideas Workshop Fellow.

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