The WATZS Podcast Network proudly announces the launch of "It Doesn’t Work That Way Podcast," a bi-weekly series hosted by Kalisha Zachery and Kachelle Zachery sisters and co-founders of WATZS Productions. This podcast delves into vital conversations across media, film, business, and life themes, highlighting challenges faced in these areas.
The show focuses on key moments and processes related to life, purpose, and career, examining how skills align with vision while upholding integrity, patience and respect. Through engaging storytelling, the podcast presents real-world examples of both success and failure in pursuing ambitions. Each episode fosters meaningful discussions on relevant issues in the artistic and professional realms, providing in-depth analysis to enhance listener engagement.
Representation at the top should protect the people inside it… right?
In this episode of It Doesn't Work That Way, hosts Kalisha Zachery and Kachelle Zachery examine the complicated intersection of ambition, representation, and integrity through the lens of Netflix's America's Next Top Model documentary.
What begins as a conversation about a nostalgic television phenomenon quickly becomes something much deeper: a discussion about the hidden costs of chasing opportunity in systems that were never fully designed for everyone's well-being.
The documentary reveals uncomfortable contradictions—from a Black contestant being encouraged to close the gap in her teeth while a white contestant's gap was celebrated as editorial and high fashion—to broader questions about what happens when leaders from underrepresented communities inherit institutions built on unequal standards.
When are you truly disrupting a system, and when are you slowly conforming to it just to survive?
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This podcast is sponsored by the hit show “Frame of Reference.”
The series explores the vulnerable and often hectic lives of a close knit-group of friends and provides a truthful evaluation of how fear and past misfortunes can define our present point of view. Season one is currently on Prime Video! WATCH NOW HERE!
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13 May 2026
If you’re talented, disciplined, and connected, shouldn’t the system reward that?
In this episode of It Doesn't Work That Way, hosts Kalisha Zachery and Kachelle Zachery examine one of the most debated forces in the creative industries: gatekeeping. Gatekeeping is often presented as a way to protect standards, preserve quality, and safeguard culture. But what happens when protection becomes restriction? Where is the line between thoughtful curation and limiting access to opportunity? Drawing from their experiences as independent filmmakers, producers, and entrepreneurs, Kalisha and Kachelle explore the motivations that often drive gatekeeping—from maintaining control over information and access to preserving exclusivity, and, at times, protecting status in an evolving industry.
It Doesn’t Work That Way –
This podcast is sponsored by the hit show “Frame of Reference.”
The series explores the vulnerable and often hectic lives of a close knit-group of friends and provides a truthful evaluation of how fear and past misfortunes can define our present point of view. Season one is currently on Prime Video! WATCH NOW HERE!
Join us on Patreon! A unique creative hub curated by tastemakers in culture, entertainment, literature, art, conversations and beyond. Join the WATZS Dome for exclusive behind the scenes content. SUBSCRIBE HERE
Check out the WATZS Podcast Network HERE and drop us a line.
Follow us on socials: @thewatzspod
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4 Mar 2026
Net-60 and the Reality of Creative Work
In this new episode Kalisha Zachery and Kachelle Zachery are diving into a reality many independent creatives know all too well: the net-60 payout. Whether you’ve worked on an indie film, freelance production, or small creative project, you’ve likely encountered the experience of being paid long after the work is complete.
In this episode, we unpack why net-60 payment structures exist, how delayed payouts impact creatives trying to sustain themselves, and the difficult balance between passion, professionalism, and cash flow. From independent productions to major companies, we explore the financial realities of creative labor and ask an important question: How do you stay grounded when the work moves faster than the payment?
It Doesn’t Work That Way –
This podcast is sponsored by the hit show “Frame of Reference.”
The series explores the vulnerable and often hectic lives of a close knit-group of friends and provides a truthful evaluation of how fear and past misfortunes can define our present point of view. Season one is currently on Prime Video! WATCH NOW HERE!
Join us on Patreon! A unique creative hub curated by tastemakers in culture, entertainment, literature, art, conversations and beyond. Join the WATZS Dome for exclusive behind the scenes content. SUBSCRIBE HERE
Check out the WATZS Podcast Network HERE and drop us a line.
Follow us on socials: @thewatzspod
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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6,788
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3.7 / 5
6 ratings
Podcast Authority Score: 30 / 100
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