Journalists Jeb Lund and David J. Roth step away from real world anxieties and step into the gentle, cornball, consequence-free world of the Hallmark Channel. Each time, we discuss a different Hallmark original movie—from Christmas cheer, to wedding jitters, to junk-store detectives—and break it down into recognizable components of angels, moms, moppets, sugary foods and themed sweaters, and try to make sense of when the stories veer away from comfort films and land in the uncanny valley. Welcome to a sweet, stilted vision of the world—not an escape from modern life, but a relaxing trip to an alternate universe where everyone is silly, chaste, nice, and mostly doing fine.

It's Christmastown
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Journalists Jeb Lund and David J. Roth step away from real world anxieties and step into the gentle, cornball, consequence-free world of the Hallmark Channel. Each time, we discuss a different Hallmark original movie—from Christmas cheer, to wedding jitters, to junk-store detectives—and break it down into recognizable components of angels, moms, moppets, sugary foods and themed sweaters, and try to make sense of when the stories veer away from comfort films and land in the uncanny valley. Welcome to a sweet, stilted vision of the world—not an escape from modern life, but a relaxing trip to an alternate universe where everyone is silly, chaste, nice, and mostly doing fine.
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May 30, 2026
144 - Reverse Seinfeld for Phlegmless People
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April 22, 2026
143 - A God-Prank Christmas: The Miracle of Obstinacy!
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December 23, 2025
142 - Heptarchy of Hospitaliano!
<p>It's a Boogie-Woogie Royal boy and girl named Dee Dee having A ROYAL QUEEN'S CHRISTMAS (<a href= "https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15829734/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">2021</a>), and how did we find it?…</p> <p><strong>TEASER:</strong></p> <p>I use-a da Google!<span class= "Apple-converted-space"> </span></p> <p><strong>THEME:</strong> "<a href= "https://www.amazon.com/Fuck-You-Dont-Like-Christmas/dp/B004BF78WI" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Fuck You If You Don't Like Christmas</a>," from Crudbump, by Drew Fairweather</p> <p><strong>PART ONE<span class= "Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p> <p>Getting the lead out for the NYC marathon … "Darren Wahlberg" … Vintage Hallmark mind prison … Long or Staten Island … Reopening the Beast … The dangers of nostalgia…</p> <p><strong>PART TWO<span class= "Apple-converted-space"> </span></strong></p> <p><strong>Cast Rundown</strong> …Megan Park Appreciation Station … <strong>The Expositional Challenge</strong> … We're sensualists … <strong>Plot Mop-Up:</strong> Zoe's BF's fancy hotel bakery contract; big brother snowman volunteers; good throwing form; after-school choir program; royal retirement, Exeter, Choate, Hanover, Danelaw…</p> <p><strong>PART THREE</strong></p> <p>Our new $10 Patreon livestream!/Hera Appreciation Station … <strong>Spot the Angel:</strong> Whitbey's fart-free Derek Jacobi notes … <strong>Eat Your Heart Out:</strong> Mostly good; antipasti damn sampler; OK hotel food; wtf r u saying (Italian); chicken caprese; charcuterie rosemary; Christmas colors; "I got cannoli!" … <strong>The Hallmark Expanded Universe:</strong> Episode 137's Collateral, Episode 141's Katz's knockoff, Episode 8's blood-red bordello Brooklyn…<span class= "Apple-converted-space"> </span></p> <p><strong>PART FOUR</strong></p> <p><strong>Overdetermined:</strong> You got direction in my freedom; Quit! Quit! Quit! Quit! … Foxhole Friends … <strong>Crossover:</strong> McDowell's, Hallmark cultural amnesia, Groundhog Day for Duolingo … <strong>The Hallmark Voight-Kampff Test:</strong> King and Queen, plot forms … Authentically careless aristocrats? … Return of "Coordinator" … The Ethnics, an EPCOT People…</p> <p><strong>PART FIVE</strong></p> <p><strong>Rating:</strong> 2.5 … So rote, real piano playing, busted for bird-and-fish plagiarism … <strong>The Leftovers:</strong> Julian Morris and Mae Whitman Appreciation Station … 2017 Mark Felt miniseries … Succulent Christmas meal … Handjob Park … Rob Thomas … Running back for the Jets … Palace of Exeter, Bruno Kirby's mom … A Pocket Circus, The Mook's Gambit … <strong>Merry Christmas!</strong> <strong>•</strong> All other music by Chris Collingwood of <a href= "https://www.amazon.com/Look-Park/dp/B01DQ0T5J2/ref=ice_ac_b_dpb?ie=UTF8&qid=1512608928&sr=8-1&keywords=Look+Park" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Look Park</a> and <a href= "https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias=aps&field-keywords=fountains+of+wayne&rh=i:aps,k:fountains+of+wayne" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Fountains of Wayne</a>, except: "Orchestral Sports Theme" by Chris Collingwood and Rick Murnane.</p>
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