Bill Kristol and Tom Joscelyn discuss the erosion of American democracy in the United States today.
In his dystopian 1935 political novel It Can’t Happen Here, Sinclair Lewis imagined what could happen when Americans elected a dictator. Less than a century later, Bill and Tom are here to break down the threats to American democracy and lay out a playbook for how citizens can respond.
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Donald Trump promised no new wars and claimed he could end Russia’s war against Ukraine in 24 hours. Instead, his war with Iran has sent energy costs climbing while his attempt to blame Ukraine offers Vladimir Putin a political and financial lifeline.
Tom Joscelyn and Bill Kristol examine all of this, plus the Republican Party’s growing extremism problem, Pete Hegseth’s failed push for a public execution, and why the midterms may be a defining test for American democracy.
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10 Oct 2026
We’re Living in Stephen Miller’s World | Bill Kristol & Tom Joscelyn
Tom Joscelyn and Bill Kristol examine how Stephen Miller became one of the most powerful figures in Trump’s White House—and how his influence reaches across the FBI, Department of Homeland Security, State Department, and Pentagon. They discuss reporting on investigations of Miller’s critics, harsh ICE detention policies, the removal of migrant children, the administration’s “remigration” agenda, and military strikes against suspected drug traffickers at sea. They also explain how Congress could expose Miller’s role, demand accountability, and push back against an agenda they argue is reshaping American government.
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3 Oct 2026
Is Elon Musk’s Outrage Machine Backfiring?
David Pakman joins Bill Kristol and Tom Joscelyn to discuss Elon Musk’s influence on X, why lies and outrage go viral, and how Democrats can fight back.
Drawing on his new book, Pay Attention: How the Algorithms and Media Wars Are Suppressing Truth and Rewiring Your Brain (https://www.harpercollins.com/products/pay-attention-david-pakman?variant=44812531105826), Pakman explains how algorithms shape our politics—and what it takes to break through.
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26 Sept 2026
Trump is Gambling with America’s AI Future
Tom Joscelyn and Bill Kristol examine President Trump’s dismissal of warnings about artificial intelligence and his rejection of global safeguards.
They discuss Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei’s call to “pace the frontier,” the dangers posed by AI-enabled cyberattacks and bioweapons, and why experts inside the industry are increasingly alarmed.
They also explain why Trump’s prepared remarks at the United Nations suggest that treating AI risk as a hoax is now the official position of the U.S. government.
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19 Sept 2026
The Heritage Foundation’s Extremist Turn
Tom Joscelyn and Bill Kristol discuss the launch of the Civil Defense Institute, a nonpartisan investigative research organization that hones in on people, organizations, and networks whose conduct undermines civil society and the freedom of Americans to participate in public life.They examine how the Heritage Foundation has promoted Christian nationalist ideology, trace the origins of today’s extremism, and explore why major conservative organizations now openly embrace ideas they would have rejected a decade ago.
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12 Sept 2026
We're Living in the World 9/11 Made
Twenty-five years after 9/11, Tom Joscelyn and Bill Kristol reflect on the attacks, the aftermath, and the consequences still shaping America.
They discuss what U.S. leaders misunderstood about al-Qaeda, the political backlash that helped fuel Trump’s rise, and why defending democracy requires more than a return to the old normal.Subscribe for more episodes of It’s Happening Here, a Home of the Brave podcast.
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5 Sept 2026
Mass Deportation Is Mass Dehumanization
On this week’s episode of It’s Happening Here, hosts Tom Joscelyn and Bill Kristol discuss the tragedy of Pierre Damas Bel, a 20-year-old Haitian immigrant who was legally in the U.S. under Temporary Protected Status, subjected to humiliating ICE enforcement, and died in an apparent suicide. They examine how the Trump administration’s mass deportation policy is fundamentally rooted in dehumanization and white nationalist ideology—not in addressing actual crime or immigration concerns.
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29 Aug 2026
Trump Is Manufacturing an Election Emergency
On this week’s episode of the It’s Happening Here podcast, hosts Tom Joscelyn and Bill Kristol examine the Trump administration’s threats to manufacture a national emergency around the 2026 election.
They discuss Steve Bannon’s call to deploy ICE at polling places, Trump’s history of invoking emergency powers under false pretenses, and why an administration filled with loyalists poses a greater danger than it did before January 6.
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15 Aug 2026
The Dangerous Christian Nationalism at the Heart of DoD
Tom Joscelyn and Bill Kristol examine how Christian nationalism at the highest levels of the Pentagon is undermining military readiness. They discuss how Pete Hegseth’s ideological commitments have made him fundamentally unqualified to run the Defense Department. Plus: the persistence of National Guard deployments in D.C., the purge of transgender service members, and how the military’s moral and professional decline is signaling weakness to U.S. adversaries. Finally, why rebuilding these institutions is far harder than destroying them—and why the stakes have never been higher.
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8 Aug 2026
In Defense of the Multicultural Idea
Tom Joscelyn and Bill Kristol examine the cultural conflicts at the heart of the American experiment. They discuss why the right’s cultural dominance is weaker than it appears, relying increasingly on political power to achieve cultural ends. Plus: Trump’s failed attempt to rebrand the 250th anniversary of American independence, white nationalism’s pervasive influence on the right, and why Christian nationalism and authoritarianism are fundamentally dependent on cultural homogeneity. Finally, what the multicultural vision must do to resist—and why it’s already winning in the places that matter most.
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1 Aug 2026
“Intent Plus Power Goes a Long Way”
Tom Joscelyn speaks with Bill Kristol about the Trump administration’s campaign to rebrand its opposition as communists. Plus: how Marco Rubio ended up co-hosting a conference on political violence with Stephen Miller, and what that says about the Secretary of State’s drift from operator to true believer. Finally, Trump’s militarization of ICE and DHS at home.
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25 Jul 2026
"We Don't Know How Weak We Are"
Tom Joscelyn talks with Bill Kristol about the unwinnable, unending war with Iran. Plus: how the roughly $50 million in Saudi business ties documented in Trump’s own financial disclosures has become inseparable from US foreign policy. And what it would take to rebuild American power and state capacity after Trump.
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18 Jul 2026
The Plan to Interfere in 2026
Tom Joscelyn talks with co-host Bill Kristol about the latest ICE killing in Maine and the deportation regime’s campaign of fear; Todd Blanche’s confirmation hearing and the suspicious Ghislaine Maxwell transfer; National Guard troops being normalized on DC streets; and why Trump’s primetime “election interference” speech is really about 2026 and 2028.
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11 Jul 2026
Trump Is Losing Control of His Deportation Machine
Donald Trump made mass deportation a defining promise of his political movement. But the fatal ICE shooting of Lorenzo Araujo, a hardworking father who had lived in America for 35 years, is revealing what happens when that promise becomes policy.
In this episode of It’s Happening Here, Tom Joscelyn and Bill Kristol examine the conflicting witness accounts, unanswered questions, mounting court rebukes, and erosion of constitutional rights—and explain why Trump’s crackdown may finally be backfiring.
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3 Jul 2026
Birthright Meltdown
In this episode of It’s Happening Here, Tom Joscelyn and Bill Kristol examine the Court’s ruling, the history of the 14th Amendment, and why a decision that changed virtually nothing has sparked such an intense political and cultural backlash.
They also discuss how rhetoric around immigration, citizenship, and American identity has shifted in recent years—and what that says about the current state of American conservatism.
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27 Jun 2026
Trump’s Election Takeover Is Already Underway
On this episode of It’s Happening Here, Tom and Bill break down one of the most alarming developments in Trump’s second term: the installation of Bill Pulte as acting Director of National Intelligence.
The DNI was created after 9/11 to help protect America from foreign threats. But Trump has made clear that he wants Pulte focused on something else entirely: his false claims about “rigged elections.” Tom and Bill explain why that matters, how Trump is filling key national security roles with loyalists, and why the real danger may be what comes next in 2026 and 2028.
This is not just another bad personnel move. It is part of a broader effort to turn the power of the federal government into a political weapon—against Trump’s enemies, against the truth, and potentially against free and fair elections.
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20 Jun 2026
It's Happening Here
Welcome to Home of the Brave’s newest weekly podcast series: It’s Happening Here. Hosted by Bill Kristol and Tom Joscelyn, this show will go deep on the erosion of American democracy today—and what to do about it.
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In his dystopian 1935 political novel It Can’t Happen Here, Sinclair Lewis imagined what could transpire when Americans elected a dictator. Less than a century later, Bill and Tom are here to break down the threats to American democracy, and lay out a playbook for how citizens can respond.
Our first episode covers why Trump’s attorney general nominee, Todd Blanche, should be made to answer for Ghislaine Maxwell, the Epstein files, and the corruption of the Justice Department. You won’t want to miss it.
Bill is an advisory board member of Home of the Brave and leading voice in defense of American democracy. Tom served as a senior professional staff member on the House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6 Attack on the US Capitol, where he was principal author of the Committee’s final report.
Home of the Brave exists to show Americans the real-world consequences of this administration’s policies, and to highlight what bravery looks like in defense of American democracy.
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