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Jason's Conversations

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Welcome to Jason’s Conversations—where I get deep with fascinating people from around the world to explore unexpected career pivots, unique life experiences, and the trade-offs that come with forging your own path. From lawyers who left the courtroom for adventure to authors, entrepreneurs, and world travelers, each episode dives into the real stories of those who’ve stepped off the beaten path. My guests range from a renowned author to an international businesswoman to a newly retired professional golfer.

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June 17, 2026

The Firm That Wasn't Supposed to Work | Todd Stanton, Employment Attorney

The Firm That Wasn't Supposed to Work | Todd Stanton, Employment AttorneyTodd Stanton built a law firm the legal industry said couldn't be done — and it's been running for 15 years. In this episode, we get into why the traditional law firm model is broken, how most "legal problems" are actually business decisions in disguise, and what it really takes to build something that puts people first when your entire industry is built around billable hours.Todd is the founder of Stanton Law, an Atlanta-based employment law firm that operates differently — different billing, different culture, different values. He's also the author of The 95% Rule: 29 Employment Law Axioms for Owners, Execs, and HR. But this conversation goes way beyond law.We talk about vigilance, what it means to never fully feel like you've made it, dogs in the office, golf, and what happens when you decide to build something on your own terms.If you're a business owner, a lawyer, or just someone trying to build something that actually works — this one's for you.🎙️ Listen on Spotify: 📺 Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/ZmyRkHK3jYU 📖 Get Todd's book: https://www.amazon.com/95-Rule-Employment-Axioms-Owners/dp/1967451176 ⚖️ Stanton Law: https://stantonlawllc.com/ 🎧 More episodes: https://www.youtube.com/@jasonsadventuresconversations/podcasts#SmallBusiness #Entrepreneurship #LawFirm #Atlanta #Leadership #BusinessStrategy #Podcast #MensWork #selfemployment

May 5, 2026

Jason's Conversations #12 - Engineer, Clergyman, Lawyer & Author of Better Capitalism | Paul Knowlton

Jason's Conversations #12 - Engineer, Clergyman, Lawyer & Author of <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Better-Capitalism-Plantation-Partnership-Economics/dp/1725280930" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Better Capitalism</a> | Paul Knowlton Paul Knowlton is a veteran a practicing attorney in Atlanta with an undergraduate degree in engineering. He helped build and operates an 18-attorney law firm in Atlanta, <a href="https://thestantonfirm.com/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">the Stanton Firm</a>. Over the course of his career, he completed Seminary, while holding down full-time work as an attorney. Importantly, Paul is the author of Better Capitalism <a href="https://www.bettercapitalism.org/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.bettercapitalism.org/</a>.That stack (engineer, lawyer, clergyman) is rare for a reason. Most people don't think in that many ways. Paul does, and you can hear it in how he frames the problems other people stay stuck on: how to run a firm, how to treat people, how to know when you have enough, and what business is actually for.This conversation is less about pitching a book and more about the way one unusually-credentialed man has put his life and his work together — and what the rest of us can take from it.What we get into:- The career path: civil engineer → trial attorney → law firm owner → clergyman, and why each step happened- How seminary training quietly reshaped the way he practices law- Running an 18-attorney firm on the principle of "work to live," not "live to work"- His take on Mars Inc., a $117B family-owned company that bakes "mutuality" into its contracts and still outperforms Coca-Cola- The Gravity Payments story: a CEO who capped his salary at $1M, raised everyone to $70–90K, and grew the business- How CEO-to-worker pay ratios went from 20:1 to as high as 3,000:1- Why the "invisible hand" is misunderstood — and the dishwasher story that proves it- How to define "enough" with real numbers, not vibes- Why faith and ethics belong in business conversations — and why CSR and ESG keep missing the mark- Courage as a skill you can buildWhether you run a company, work inside one, or just buy things from them, you'll come away thinking differently about what business is for — and about the kind of person who's willing to look hard at it.Chapters<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgLz-j9kPBo" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">00:00</a> — Preview<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgLz-j9kPBo&t=30s" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">00:30</a> — Intro<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgLz-j9kPBo&t=264s" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">04:24</a> — What Better Capitalism actually is<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgLz-j9kPBo&t=300s" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">05:00</a> — Paul's seminary + engineering origin story<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgLz-j9kPBo&t=900s" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">15:00</a> — How seminary training shaped his law practice<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgLz-j9kPBo&t=1080s" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">18:00</a> — The Milton Friedman problem<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgLz-j9kPBo&t=1305s" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">21:45</a> — Defining "enough" with real metrics<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgLz-j9kPBo&t=1430s" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">23:50</a> — Mutuality and Adam Smith's Theory of Moral Sentiments<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgLz-j9kPBo&t=1588s" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">26:28</a> — Inside Mars Inc.<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgLz-j9kPBo&t=1620s" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">27:00</a> — Running an 18-attorney firm on these principles<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgLz-j9kPBo&t=2445s" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">40:45</a> — The Gravity Payments case study<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgLz-j9kPBo&t=2790s" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">46:30</a> — The CEO-to-worker pay ratio problem<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgLz-j9kPBo&t=2940s" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">49:00</a> — Why this isn't CSR or ESG<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgLz-j9kPBo&t=3110s" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">51:50</a> — Mindset, collaboration, and the golden rule<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgLz-j9kPBo&t=3270s" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">54:30</a> — Capitalism as engineered software<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgLz-j9kPBo&t=3360s" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">56:00</a> — Why the market doesn't self-correct<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgLz-j9kPBo&t=3450s" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">57:30</a> — The invisible hand, properly understood<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgLz-j9kPBo&t=3520s" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">58:40</a> — The dishwasher story<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgLz-j9kPBo&t=3642s" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">01:00:42</a> — "The worst system except for all the others"<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgLz-j9kPBo&t=4380s" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">01:13:00</a> — Handling the "that's socialism" pushback<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgLz-j9kPBo&t=4574s" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">01:16:14</a> — Why Better Capitalism needs support to grow<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgLz-j9kPBo&t=4940s" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">01:22:20</a> — The success stories he wants to tell next01:25:00 — Courage as a practiceGet the book: Better Capitalism — <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqazNPSHBJZld6YUotQVVCVHZ2QmxwQnEweTlUd3xBQ3Jtc0trQkxsa2puNW5VamhHa0d3Z0pVdWhwWWZ0ZzdtREN5Z3RqN3BGS0k5X3NKRmRwUURRWF96VTAyT0djRWZ2TDFvSkctZ2VZc0Jib2FSVjlIenJ4aHVaVWIwb1JkZHVTYzF0bFpVdk1fajRINlh3bG82SQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FBetter-Capitalism-Plantation-Partnership-Economics%2Fdp%2F1725280930&v=JgLz-j9kPBo" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.amazon.com/Better-Capital...</a>Learn more / support the work: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqblNmOF9rTjZrbHF5b3hVelhXVHN3NGxlQUZ0Z3xBQ3Jtc0tsNTRjdUFfU3VSM09hTmYzSi1qRWd4bHdkRUtiVW9hT3Mwa3BJRzh6NmhVMnJ6YUdRMExlSjFaU2E5X21ybzdNYlFCY0lHN1NUSUdTcXNlQ1hSdFl5b3VjZ0xfOFZSYl92aFp5TjJMNTRROWlFeXFNVQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bettercapitalism.org%2F&v=JgLz-j9kPBo" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.bettercapitalism.org/</a><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgLz-j9kPBo" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> • Engineer, Attorney, Seminarian | The Origi... </a>Engineer. Attorney. Seminarian. | The Original Mind of Paul Knowlton, Author of Better Capitalism.mp4

April 6, 2025

Jason's Conversations #11 - Ayahuasca's Healing Power: A Veteran's Journey Home | Nate Brown

Nate Brown, founder of ComingHomeProject.org, discusses ayahuasca and sacred plant medicine's role in healing veterans' PTSD and anxiety with host Jason, in an interview about mental health and reintegration.

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What is Jason's Conversations?: Welcome to Jason’s Conversations—where I get deep with fascinating people from around the world to explore unexpected career pivots, unique life experiences, and the trade-offs that come with forging your own path. From lawyers who left the courtroom for adventure to authors, entrepreneurs, and world travelers, each episode dives into the real stories of those who’ve stepped off the beaten path.

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