August 31, 2025
San Franklin: A Chicago Legend on Humility, Ministry, and a Gospel "Truth Set"
JeVaughn sits down with Apostle San Franklin, an icon of gospel music, for a deeply transparent and powerful conversation. San shares her incredible journey, from being born in Memphis and raised on the south side of Chicago in the church of Rev. Dr. Clay Evans, to moving to California to join Bishop Walter L. Hawkins' legendary Love Center Ministries. She reflects on a career that has seen her work with nearly everyone in the industry as a background vocalist and arranger, culminating in a Grammy Award for her production work on the TSU Gospel Roots album.The discussion takes a candid turn as San Franklin calls for a "truth set" in the gospel music industry, expressing her belief that a change is needed to move away from competition and toward integrity. She reveals that if she were in charge of the Stellar Awards, she would institute a dress code and a year-long ethical review to ensure artists are living the life they sing about.Delving into the psychology of ministry, San opens up about her own diagnosis of adult ADHD and discusses Histrionic Personality Disorder (HPD), which she describes as a "dangerous need for affection or attention caused by childhood trauma that's never been healed". She issues a powerful call for the church to start dealing with difficult issues like molestation, rape, and abuse, stating that these things must be addressed "in the house".Throughout the interview, San and JeVaughn bond over their shared Chicago heritage, reminiscing about the city's rich gospel history, legendary choirs, and unique culture that taught both ministry and stage presence. Looking to the future, Apostle Franklin shares her goals to write three books, establish more ministry locations to continue the legacy of Walter Hawkins, and ultimately "die empty," having poured out every gift God has given her. You can connect with San Franklin on all social media platforms at @SanFranklin.About Je Vaughn ShowThe Je Vaughn Show is a popular weekly talk show hosted by Dallas-based conversationalist JeVaughn. This podcast specializes in introducing the audience to talented independent and experienced creatives, featuring segments such as singing showcases, trivia contests, and advice for building and strengthening relationships.With a prestigious list of guests, including Grammy Award winner CeCe Winans, Bishop J. Drew Sheard, and industry veterans Martha Munizzi, Jekalyn Carr, the Locketts, Mali Music, and Candy & Peaches West, the Je Vaughn Show has quickly become a must-listen for music lovers and faith-based influencers alike. Up-and-coming artists like Naomi Raine, Casey J, Tiffany Boone, and Jabari Johnson, as well as Sunday Best alums Latice Crawford, Jessica Reedy, and Maurice Griffin, have also been featured on the show.The Je Vaughn Show has earned accolades for excellence in media and communication, and has been featured in notable publications such as ELEV8 Magazine and RYZE Magazine.Listen to the Je Vaughn Show on all podcast distribution channels, including Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and Amazon. You can also catch the show on Roku's Vanta Black TV channel, as well as on YouTube, Facebook, and Instagram. Past episodes will soon be available on Samsung TV and Spectrum TV. The Je Vaughn Show is produced by a ChiRose Productions and distributed by iDream Media.Dream Media Foundation, Inc. is a non-profit organization dedicated to empowering communities by helping individuals share their stories and amplify their dreams through the power of podcasting. Learn more about our mission and vision at www.idreammediafoundation.com.
